Anonymous Targets the Town That Let a Rapist Walk Free - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42529410]So vigilantism is OK as long as it's over a verdict you don't agree with. I'd love to see you back in the 60's hangin all them got damn spear chuckers' for whistlin at our women-folk. It's not your job, or anyone elses, to pick up a rope and start lynching people because you think the justice system failed. Doesn't matter if it's a rape case or corporate fraud, vigilantism is always wrong every single time.[/QUOTE] vigilantism (although i think it's pretty stupid to call what so far has amounted to satirical and sarcastic yelp reviews as vigilantism) is ok when it's against people who rape little girls and then hide behind their despicable small town attitudes to escape justice. notice how literally noone has or will be hanged and realize how stupid your comparison is. and also notice how stupid your comparison of lynching blacks for whistling at white women with being pricks over the internet to 2 guys that raped a 14 year old girl and video taped it

[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;42529424]No it isn't. Can you people stop it with the "wow you're a fucking sociopath that wants to kill em all like a clint eastwood movie" stuff, please? Sometimes the justice system fails and you won't get any other sort of help.[/QUOTE] You'll stop getting called a sociopath when you stop acting like one. The reason we set up governments and give people rights is so that we don't have to worry about things like vigilantism. [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;42529424] I forgot that reality worked liked a videogame. I sure am glad an officer is always around the corner to save me. I sure am glad that there aren't corrupt judges and jurors.[/QUOTE] Defending yourself from a mugger isn't vigilantism hun. If you don't agree with the verdict and then shoot that mugger outside the courthouse; thats vigilantism.

nobody should cheer these guys on. if they follow through on these threats they're just going to make it worse. the fact that almost none of you can see that is ridiculous

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42529440]You'll stop getting called a sociopath when you stop acting like one. The reason we set up governments and give people rights is so that we don't have to worry about things like vigilantism. [/QUOTE] Because if there's one thing sociopaths are known for, it's their strong sense of right and wrong.

This is the part of Anonymous I like.. the glorified dramatic videos with no action isn't as exciting...

[QUOTE=God of Ashes;42529455]nobody should cheer these guys on. if they follow through on these threats they're just going to make it worse. the fact that almost none of you can see that is ridiculous[/QUOTE] make it worse for who though? the girl and her families life has already been pretty fucked so really the only people that can be hurt by this are a. the rapists b. the shitty town that defended them & drove away the victims. don't really mind life getting worse for them [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mingebox;42529457]Because if there's one thing sociopaths are known for, it's their strong sense of right and wrong.[/QUOTE] it's weird how many sociopaths we have here empathizing with a rape victim, considering i always thought sociopathy was defined by a lack of empathy for other humans but that shows what i know

[QUOTE=Mingebox;42529457]Because if there's one thing sociopaths are known for, it's their strong sense of right and wrong.[/QUOTE] except they're ignoring another's rights because they don't agree with a verdict on a case they don't know nearly enough about. It's the LA riots and London riots all over again.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42529480]except they're ignoring another's rights because they don't agree with a verdict on a case they don't know nearly enough about. It's the LA riots and London riots all over again.[/QUOTE] you really love making ridiculous comparisons don't you? yes, remember during the LA riots when vast swathes of Yelp.com were destroyed by sardonic reviews

Why did they not target the prosecuter? How do they know that the rapist was ok with the charges being dropped? I'm not saying he is not but the point is that you ca not know and that's why this "vigilante-ish" behaviour is stupid. So the justice system failed at this one. Ok. Not good. Agree. But instead of targeting the failures of the justice system you take matters in your own hands instead of patching up the system? That's stupid. Not only does it not solve anything but it also doesn't adress the failures of the system, allowing for further abuse in the future. By tageting the rapist, not the judge, prosecutor, police and rep. guy (and there are legal means for that) you are actively making things worse.

I wonder if the victims (plural because the whole family is included now) could have gotten a restraining order against the whole town.

Well, in any case, they can make the boys completely unemployable, since the first million results for googling their names will be about the rape. That's something, no?

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529506]Why did they not target the prosecuter? How do they know that the rapist was ok with the charges being dropped? I'm not saying he is not but the point is that you ca not know and that's why this "vigilante-ish" behaviour is stupid. So the justice system failed at this one. Ok. Not good. Agree. But instead of targeting the failures of the justice system you take matters in your own hands instead of patching up the system? That's stupid. Not only does it not solve anything but it also doesn't adress the failures of the system, allowing for further abuse in the future. By tageting the rapist, not the judge, prosecutor, police and rep. guy (and there are legal means for that) you are actively making things worse.[/QUOTE] if the rapist had a problem with the charges being dropped he could have confessed and pleaded guilty. i'd agree that yeah it's be better if the justice system was patched up but how exactly can people do that? this miscarriage of justice was caused by the systems being controlled by political old boys and shit like that, i don't see how exactly you can change the system when it's controlled like that. and again yeah i'm not overly bothered by things getting worse for this town/these rapists

[QUOTE=Riller;42529511]Well, in any case, they can make the boys completely unemployable, since the first million results for googling their names will be about the rape. That's something, no?[/QUOTE] Yes I'm sure that'll help him atone his sins and promote his urge to become a functioning member of society again.

[QUOTE=tirpider;42529510]I wonder if the victims (plural because the whole family is included now) could have gotten a restraining order against the whole town.[/QUOTE] i doubt they'd be so willing to go to the courts for help after what happened. but yeah i'm not sure you can get restraining orders out against groups

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529522]Yes I'm sure that'll help him atone his sins and promote his urge to become a functioning member of society again.[/QUOTE] It's still much lighter on him than what prison-time would have done. That'd make him unemployable [I]and[/I] serving time.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42529519]if the rapist had a problem with the charges being dropped he could have confessed and pleaded guilty. i'd agree that yeah it's be better if the justice system was patched up but how exactly can people do that? this miscarriage of justice was caused by the systems being controlled by political old boys and shit like that, i don't see how exactly you can change the system when it's controlled like that. and again yeah i'm not overly bothered by things getting worse for this town/these rapists[/QUOTE] This is why we vote and why there are control organs for this kind of stuff exist. And when they don't work/don't exist you do something about THAT. Everything else is vigilantism. This is why we vote. This is why people organize in a party(are you in a party?) You sound more and more like the angsty teenager "but the old patriarchs control this country fuck the system" I would expect such statements from. [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;42529533]It's still much lighter on him than what prison-time would have done. That'd make him unemployable [I]and[/I] serving time.[/QUOTE] But the faults of the current imprisonment system is a different discussion and still doesn't warrant a conclusion a la"well prison is even worse so lets take matters into our own hands"

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529535]This is why we vote and why there are control organs for this kind of stuff exist. And when they don't work/don't exist you do something about THAT. Everything else is vigilantism. This is why we vote. This is why people organize in a party(are you in a party?) You sound more and more like the angsty teenager "but the old patriarchs control this country fuck the system" I would expect such statements from.[/QUOTE] Well, when you have two viable options to vote for, both which support the status quo, you're kinda screwed on the voting front.

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529535]This is why we vote and why there are control organs for this kind of stuff exist. And when they don't work/don't exist you do something about THAT. Everything else is vigilantism. This is why we vote. This is why people organize in a party(are you in a party?) You sound more and more like the angsty teenager "but the old patriarchs control this country fuck the system" I would expect such statements from.[/QUOTE] darn, i guess i am a angsty teenager. oh well, i guess that means i can call you a blind sheep for believing that the system works? [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] you guys are really over exaggerating what 'anonymous' is doing. it's not like they're lynching the rapists or burning their houses down or putting bombs under their cars. they're harassing them on yelp. basically just doing a bunch of silly internet things that are bringing attention to this case. with enough attention/outrage then maybe shit WILL change when people see how fucked it is. so everybody wins huh?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42529549]darn, i guess i am a angsty teenager. oh well, i guess that means i can call you a blind sheep for believing that the system works? [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] you guys are really over exaggerating what 'anonymous' is doing. it's not like they're lynching the rapists or burning their houses down or putting bombs under their cars. they're harassing them on yelp. basically just doing a bunch of silly internet things that are bringing attention to this case. with enough attention/outrage then maybe shit WILL change when people see how fucked it is. so everybody wins huh?[/QUOTE] What do you want to accomplish with your cheap sarcastic remarks here? I said you "sound more and more like" and you take it as a personal attack and instead of explaining yourself or overthinking your points this is what you decided to post?

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529589]What do you want to accomplish with your cheap sarcastic remarks here? I said you "sound more and more like" and you take it as a personal attack and instead of explaining yourself or overthinking your points this is what you decided to post?[/QUOTE] sorry if i take condescension personally. notice i said more things in that post after the edited bit?

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42529440] Defending yourself from a mugger isn't vigilantism hun. [b]If you don't agree with the verdict and then shoot that mugger outside the courthouse; thats vigilantism [/b][/QUOTE] [b]Ah yes, because vigilantes are all vengeful killers.[/b] Never said self defense was vigilantism. I sure hope someone would be brave enough to help me though if I was just mugged or if someone was hurting me on the pavement. Cops are rarely going to be there to help you, not that someone shouldn't call the police at the same time. It shouldn't have to be said, but most vigilantes aren't wannabe Batmen or killers looking for trouble. Sorry for the angst and edginess. I forgot that I was an anarchist and that society viewed people without badges helping others as sociopaths.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42529596]sorry if i take condescension personally. notice i said more things in that post after the edited bit?[/QUOTE] Is this a joke?

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529601]Is this a joke?[/QUOTE] no i'm just pointing out i said more than just getting irritated by your angsty teenager comment which you decided not to address

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42529611]no i'm just pointing out i said more than just getting irritated by your angsty teenager comment which you decided not to address[/QUOTE] "sorry if i take condescension personally" Still your cheap sarcasm, even when it's just the "sorry" followed by a "condescending" (is this a new buzzword? I read it on the first page too) question. Of course I noticed your massive edit that I even quoted. So either your question whether I noticed or not is even more sarcasm or a serious question in which case I have to answer(again) with : Of course I noticed but I assumed we were smart enough to do the transit from "matter at hands" to "abstract discussion" and chose to not go down to discussing tiring details of the case we can't even know about.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;42525616]How do you DDoS a town?[/QUOTE] Don't worry, they'll probably (emphasis on probably) find a way.

Change won't happen over virtuality but instead happen in reality - face-to-face with the suspect.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;42525785]While this might mean comeuppance for the perpetrators, anon's scattershot techniques basically guarantee that a few innocent people will be harmed as well remember reddit vs. the boston bomber[/QUOTE] Most people on Reddit did seem to have learned from the Boston Bomber case though, many call it a downright disaster. Don't think you'll see a witch hunt from that place any time soon.

[QUOTE=Killuah;42529535]This is why we vote and why there are control organs for this kind of stuff exist. And when they don't work/don't exist you do something about THAT.[/quote] Bringing national attention to the case via their 'involvement' in whatever they're doing, seems like reviews of the restaurant he works at, looks like them doing something about 'THAT' considering 'THAT' was a complete failure of the justice system which we place our absolute faith in to dealing with situations justly. It isn't as if they've lynched the fucker, raped him or burned his house down. I agree, they should probably target the justice system too considering they were the ones who passed that bullshit verdict.

Okay, so someone explain this to me. Every time there's a thread on here saying members of hacking group Anonymous got arrested, everyone jumps in to say 'anonymous isn't a group' and 'anonymous is just people some of them do hacking'. But here the article basically says members of hacking group Anonymous are taking revenge against the town, and that's A-OK? What's the difference? Where are all the people saying this isn't really Anonymous and you can't misrepresent the group like that?

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42529480]except they're ignoring another's rights because they don't agree with a verdict on a case they don't know nearly enough about. It's the LA riots and London riots all over again.[/QUOTE] There is no verdict, holy shit, that is why we're angry. Maybe if we saw compelling evidence that these girls were lying, we wouldn't be mad but that's not the case. Besides they're just asking for the attorney general to review the case, and organizing a protest. Yeah, such vigilantes fucking lynching people and shit. Maybe you should get you head out of your ass and stop going against this because 'lol anonymoose r dumb'