Jeremy Corbyn elected UK Labour leader in a landslide - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48666438]The international state of politics is already left-leaning, I see no reason to take it further[/QUOTE] This isnt about the international state of politics its about britains politics and it may be left leaning for an american but by international standards it is no such thing Corbyns election is a win for labour as it brings ideals back into politics and a leader who if nothing else has a solid vision of where he wants britain to be. Thats more than can be said for most political leaders these days

Oh lord. In a country which voted right by some majority in the election, Labour is now being taken left. You think they actually have a hope of winning the next election? Unless the Tories become literally the devil, or Corbyn comes up with some plan other than 'stand all over the austerity policy and start spending money again', it's gonna be a Con/Lib?/SNP fight next time. Sure, Labour have the majority of the youth vote, but the right still outspeaks the left in this country. Perhaps I'm being an idiot, but I think at this point Britain needs to take a recovery plan [i]and see it through[/i]. Successive governments scrapping the plan of the outgoing party and implementing their own has just caused us to flip-flop from financial hell to financial hell. Our economy needs 15-20 years of consistency to recover, not 5. And of course, being someone who's hopefully about to go on the MOD's payroll, I'm just generally anti-Corbyn's policy on defence. The Tories unfortunately gained my support when they increased the spending on my sector. It would be an idiotic self-sacrifice to vote against them

[QUOTE=Jon27;48666481]Perhaps I'm being an idiot, but I think at this point Britain needs to take a recovery plan [i]and see it through[/i]. Successive governments scrapping the plan of the outgoing party and implementing their own has just caused us to flip-flop from financial hell to financial hell. Our economy needs 15-20 years of consistency to recover, not 5.[/QUOTE] The Conservatives were in power for 18 years followed by Labour for 13 and now Conservatives for at least another 10. What exactly are we recovering from anyway?

[QUOTE=smurfy;48666444]Going to be hearing a lot Tom & Jerry jokes over the next five years[/QUOTE] My dads already walked in on me eating my lunch, then sprouted out a Tom & Jerry joke he heard on twitter The governments a failure

Well, this is one way of not wanting your party to win an election

[QUOTE=Jon27;48666481]Oh lord. In a country which voted right by some majority in the election, Labour is now being taken left. You think they actually have a hope of winning the next election? Unless the Tories become literally the devil, or Corbyn comes up with some plan other than 'stand all over the austerity policy and start spending money again', it's gonna be a Con/Lib?/SNP fight next time. Sure, Labour have the majority of the youth vote, but the right still outspeaks the left in this country. Perhaps I'm being an idiot, but I think at this point Britain needs to take a recovery plan [i]and see it through[/i]. Successive governments scrapping the plan of the outgoing party and implementing their own has just caused us to flip-flop from financial hell to financial hell. Our economy needs 15-20 years of consistency to recover, not 5. And of course, being someone who's hopefully about to go on the MOD's payroll, I'm just generally anti-Corbyn's policy on defence. The Tories unfortunately gained my support when they increased the spending on my sector. It would be an idiotic self-sacrifice to vote against them[/QUOTE] Corbyns economic policy and focus on investment was endorsed by like 43 or so leading economists in britain though? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Complifused;48666527]Well, this is one way of not wanting your party to win an election[/QUOTE] I do not at all understand this argument people are making

[QUOTE=smurfy;48666497]The Conservatives were in power for 18 years followed by Labour for 13 and now Conservatives for at least another 10. What exactly are we recovering from anyway?[/QUOTE] It seems to me like we're still managing to have a major deficit which isn't going anywhere. None of those governments have yet got rid of it. It seems to me like being heavily in debt means we haven't yet got into a favourable situation economically. I admit my knowledge on the topic is only that of a mildly interested layman.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;48666530]Corbyns economic policy and focus on investment was endorsed by like 43 or so leading economists in britain though?[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean a lot though. You'll find just as many economists who'll say the opposite.

[QUOTE=Jon27;48666542]It seems to me like we're still managing to have a major deficit which isn't going anywhere. None of those governments have yet got rid of it. It seems to me like being heavily in debt means we haven't yet got into a favourable situation economically. I admit my knowledge on the topic is only that of a mildly interested layman.[/QUOTE] The Conservatives and Labour both briefly eliminated the deficit actually [t]http://imgkk.com/i/ey5x.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=smurfy;48666586]The Conservatives and Labour both briefly eliminated the deficit actually [t]http://imgkk.com/i/ey5x.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Bloody hell. This I did not know. I wonder why it all went so horribly wrong in 2009/2010? At least we're currently on the up; problem is, at the moment public services are hugely suffering. I'm not massively in favour or either further austerity - many public services are on breaking point - or huge investment of money we don't have, temporarily driving the deficit up. Recovery is slow and steady.

[QUOTE=Jon27;48666641]Bloody hell. This I did not know. I wonder why it all went so horribly wrong in 2009/2010? At least we're currently on the up; problem is, at the moment public services are hugely suffering. I'm not massively in favour or either further austerity - many public services are on breaking point - or huge investment of money we don't have, temporarily driving the deficit up. Recovery is slow and steady.[/QUOTE] GFC happened Tax revenues go down through economic decline and government spending goes up through more people being caught by social security safety nets.

If nothing else, this is at least a plus in that we'll be able to fucking tell the difference between parties now that labour isn't wallowing in the same scummy mushy centrist pit that they have been since 1997

and now UK politics has an actual opposition party i certainly don't think Labour is unelectable now, but they certainly were this year. now they're going back to their principles and standing for something rather than the exact same thing as Conservatives (the whole point of an opposition party, has it been so long without one that you've forgotten?), now people can actually vote Labour and get what they wanted, and the rest can vote Conservative and also get what they want. this man will win in 2020, and you shouldn't be surprised

Conservatives like my dad were hoping he'd win because (the logic being) the Labour party is now supposedly "unelectable", either because: 1) In the run up to the election, Corbyn will trash the labour party in fear of everyone heading back to a pre-Maggie state, thus Labour losing. 2) Or Labour comes into power, they "trash the country" and secure a Conservative government for at least 2 terms. Personally so long as Corbyn convinces me that the trains will run on time, he's got my vote. It's time we made a shift. There's too much fear mongering going on.

[QUOTE=Coolguy00;48666455]his economic views have been backed by top economists.[/QUOTE] Like reopening the coal mines? lmao

[QUOTE=Jon27;48666641]Bloody hell. This I did not know. I wonder why it all went so horribly wrong in 2009/2010? At least we're currently on the up; problem is, at the moment public services are hugely suffering. I'm not massively in favour or either further austerity - many public services are on breaking point - or huge investment of money we don't have, temporarily driving the deficit up. Recovery is slow and steady.[/QUOTE] The crash in 08.

[QUOTE=Antlerp;48667008]this man will win in 2020, and you shouldn't be surprised[/QUOTE] Five year :toxx: [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] So fucking pumped for Cameron v Corbyn: The Ultimate Showdown Round 1 on Wednesday 11.30am. Be there

I'm glad he won if not only because the media was trying their hardest to make up voters opinions for them.

If politics was a TV show I'd say the writers have been doing a fucking incredible job this past couple of seasons, so many twists and turns that you never saw coming - Scottish referendum nearly going to Yes, the general election result, and now this - and I've no idea what the fuck is going to happen next but I can't wait for the next episode [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Holy shit hahahahahaha [img]http://imgkk.com/i/k50s.png[/img]

He kicked the living crap out of the other candidates! Wish I'd put a bet on now. Nice to see Tom Fucking Watson as Deputy too. Even if he doesn't win in 2020, this is going to change the tone of British politics for a good long time.

This could get interesting.

So is it that most of the press doesn't like Jeremy Corbyn but a lot of ordinary people do? I've just been reading tons of super mixed opinions towards him

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;48667949]So is it that most of the press doesn't like Jeremy Corbyn but a lot of ordinary people do? I've just been reading tons of super mixed opinions towards him[/QUOTE] The main concern is that although Labour party members may like him, the middle-ground voters that you need to get onside in order to win elections may not. Then there are those on the right saying he's full-on M3NT4L

[img]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10497864.ece/alternates/w620/v2-Moment-Corbyn-won.jpg[/img] the moment corbyn won

Andy Burnham with your face like a scolded puppy

Ultimately, one of these candidates was not like the others - and [url=http://youtu.be/FdT1Mz1cYqA?t=43m20s]I'm not surprised.[/url] Better Labour than Tory-lite. [img]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/65C5/production/_84435062_028115744-1.jpg[/img] (Stick around for the Cannabis question immediately after, on the link, and you'll get the idea of why the "straight talking" campaign worked) [img]http://i.imgur.com/kUJHRZA.png[/img]

[QUOTE=smurfy;48667305]Holy shit hahahahahaha [img]http://imgkk.com/i/k50s.png[/img][/QUOTE] [URL="https://twitter.com/ChiBDM/status/642656012919545856"]Jezza the strangler[/URL]

Wasn't there a thread that said that this guy was the British version of Bernie Sanders? Or am i wrong.

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;48668485]Wasn't there a thread that said that this guy was the British version of Bernie Sanders? Or am i wrong.[/QUOTE] yep

what an idiot, yeah