[QUOTE=Jund;49809488]media this or community that
would you people be blaming violent video games or their communities for shooting sprees?
where were the parents?[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between violent media and a community which actively encourages you to engage in violent activities.
[QUOTE=Lurr;49809496]There's a difference between violent media and a community which actively encourages you to engage in violent activities.[/QUOTE]
how engaged was she in active serial killer circles
kill someone
oh whoops, guess you're in a community which actively encourages you to engage in violent activities now
[editline]25th February 2016[/editline]
i guess we should shut down cod servers and /pol/ before black and jewish people get murdered
[QUOTE]kill someone[/QUOTE]
You're clearly not serious, though. Nor am I in a position to be exploited. I'm not a 14 year old girl with possible mental issues.
[QUOTE]i guess we should shut down cod servers and /pol/ too before black and jewish people get murdered [/QUOTE]
I can't recall any incident of /pol/ playing a role in any deaths. However, /r9k/ and /b/ have.
We shouldn't shut them down but we should acknowledge that these aren't healthy communities for a mentally unstable person.
[QUOTE]how engaged was she in active serial killer circles
[/QUOTE]
She was very active in the serial killer fandom on Tumblr and DeviantArt
[QUOTE=Lurr;49809515]You're clearly not serious, though. Nor am I in a position to be exploited. I'm not a 14 year old girl with possible mental issues.[/quote]
does that matter? /pol/ is pretty much the poster child of poe's law. how can you prove that i wasn't serious? how do i know you're not a 14 year old girl with mental issues?
[quote]I can't recall any incident of /pol/ playing a role in any deaths. However, /r9k/ and /b/ have.
We shouldn't shut them down but we should acknowledge that these aren't healthy communities for a mentally unstable person.[/quote]
clearly, but so is most of the internet
my problem isn't that online communities are unhealthy for unstable people, it's that a lot of posters here are quick to throw the ones they don't like under the bus and defend the ones that they do like
again, where were the parents? this isn't something someone can simply hide, and according to her she even spoke to her mother about it and she brushed it off. if your daughter constantly talks about murder and suicide and you do nothing, you're part of the problem
[quote]She was very active in the serial killer fandom on Tumblr and DeviantArt[/QUOTE]
source? i went through a few pages of her tumblr and it's pretty much standard fare
death metal bands sing about sick stuff all the time, but do they really discuss carrying out those acts in real life? how many of people actually follow through with what they sing, draw, or write? something like this should have been dealt with by the parents
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49809227]Good regulation does that.
The problem with the communities on Tumblr and DA is that they encourage this behavior and have a culture of harassment+bullying.
Look at Tumblrs otherkin, headmate, cutting and transanything communities. Its people messing around and attention whores mixed in with people that have serious issues and they're all encouraging unhealthy ideas. They also all shit on eachothers self esteem and doxx eachother like mad.[/QUOTE]
you hey yeah you
Remember when Elliot Roger and that Oregon college shooter guy went on their killing sprees and SJWs turned it into a conversation about how the ethos of 4chan and reddit were to blame, and they described reddit and 4chan [I]in exactly the same terms that you're using right now to describe tumblr and DA?[/I] If that's the viewpoint you want to take, then fine, but don't be a butthurt prissy bitch when SJWs scapegoat people like you whenever someone on your 'side' does something heinous.
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Doesn't at least one of her posts mention her mother not wanting to call the police because she thought "it was too extreme"? If so her parents were clearly aware something was wrong but I guess no parent wants to consider that their child could realistically go on a stabbing spree.
[QUOTE=Perrine;49808839]oh man the people sympathizing with her lol[/QUOTE]Huh? She's clearly mentally ill and needs help, why is people being sympathic and feeling bad for her for falling so low a funny thing to you?
im wondering why she didn't just turn the knife on herself. i mean, wouldn't that make sense if you were suicidal to just kill yourself rather than to go out and externalize your trivial highschool pain on others?
[QUOTE=space1;49809751]im wondering why she didn't just turn the knife on herself. i mean, wouldn't that make sense if you were suicidal to just kill yourself rather than to go out and externalize your trivial highschool pain on others?[/QUOTE]
because she's a fraud.
PSA: it's perfectly okay to sympathize for someone who's severely mentally ill but doing so does not invalidate their actions as wrong and she deserves any/all punishment she gets via due process.
[editline]25th February 2016[/editline]
this is one of those rare cases where pleading insanity is probably best for everyone involved, but i'm not entirely sure how court hearings work for minors.
[editline]25th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=geel9;49809781]because she's a fraud.[/QUOTE]
i dunno bro, it's kinda hard to fake sociopathy
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49808816]She appeared in court wearing a grey, long-sleeved shirt and black yoga pants and maintained an expressionless gaze throughout the hearing. While giving her name and date of birth, she spoke in stilted, sing-song speech and when asked if she could hear the proceedings, answered, "Sorta."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=space1;49809751]im wondering why she didn't just turn the knife on herself. i mean, wouldn't that make sense if you were suicidal to just kill yourself rather than to go out and externalize your trivial highschool pain on others?[/QUOTE]
Hatred for self is easily intertwined with hatred for others. She wanted to harm others first and foremost, and hoped to die while at it.
Interesting that she was sort of self aware of the problem.
Sounds like she had a really shitty support network and fell into a community where she ended up convinced that her stabbing fantasy was normal and a-ok.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;49809603]you hey yeah you
Remember when Elliot Roger and that Oregon college shooter guy went on their killing sprees and SJWs turned it into a conversation about how the ethos of 4chan and reddit were to blame, and they described reddit and 4chan [I]in exactly the same terms that you're using right now to describe tumblr and DA?[/I] If that's the viewpoint you want to take, then fine, but don't be a butthurt prissy bitch when SJWs scapegoat people like you whenever someone on your 'side' does something heinous.[/QUOTE]
It's true though. Reddit's voting system hides dissenting opinions. Mods ban if statements aren't agreeable. /b/ talks shit about everyone and tells people to do stupid shit all the time. Tumblr lets you block anyone you want, leaving people to cycle their own beliefs and never look to understand another side.
All I really see rangergxi talk about is video games. And that's not really comparable to encouraging someone to kill others. Especially when counter arguments like yours are allowed to be presented without fear of removal.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;49808921]Where the fuck are the parents to notice this type of behavior? Like do parents not check up on their kids ever?
Good thing she wasn't in the US or you'd be reading mass shooting instead of stabbing[/QUOTE]
God you gotta love this thinking
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;49809603]you hey yeah you
Remember when Elliot Roger and that Oregon college shooter guy went on their killing sprees and SJWs turned it into a conversation about how the ethos of 4chan and reddit were to blame, and they described reddit and 4chan [I]in exactly the same terms that you're using right now to describe tumblr and DA?[/I] If that's the viewpoint you want to take, then fine, but don't be a butthurt prissy bitch when SJWs scapegoat people like you whenever someone on your 'side' does something heinous.[/QUOTE]
Did rangergxi actually act like a butthurt prissy bitch about it, or are you just struggling so hard to find some sort of response to this that you're just making it up as you go along?
Also whats with the "w-w-well, you did it too!!" mindset? Everyone already knows that 4chan is the asshole of the internet. 4chan doesnt, nor has it ever, largely professed to be a safe space and support group for mental illness and children. Meanwhile, this tumblr/dA user, also while already suffering from mental illness, fell for the echo chamber that tumblr/dA is, and was led further and further down the rabbit hole by her inane "fandom" which happened to revolve around romanticizing and "supporting" serial killers.
Don't be a butthurt prissy bitch when people demonize a website that supports and fosters shit like this. It deserves to be demonized.
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[QUOTE=Killer900;49809696]Huh? She's clearly mentally ill and needs help, why is people being sympathic and feeling bad for her for falling so low a funny thing to you?[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the part where one of them dismisses the victims by saying "all of the wounded have only minor injuries."
-Who can't read? That me-
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49810225]
All I really see rangergxi talk about is video games. And that's not really comparable to encouraging someone to kill others. Especially when counter arguments like yours are allowed to be presented without fear of removal.[/QUOTE]
again, source? i've had a tumblr blog for a few years and oddly enough i don't seem to have had anyone tell me to murder someone
rangergxi complains about muslims, immigration, and sjws all the time, so he's pretty much par for the course in those communities
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;49809603]you hey yeah you
Remember when Elliot Roger and that Oregon college shooter guy went on their killing sprees and SJWs turned it into a conversation about how the ethos of 4chan and reddit were to blame, and they described reddit and 4chan [I]in exactly the same terms that you're using right now to describe tumblr and DA?[/I] If that's the viewpoint you want to take, then fine, but don't be a butthurt prissy bitch when SJWs scapegoat people like you whenever someone on your 'side' does something heinous.[/QUOTE]
Not calling for any bans or censorship like they are.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49811011]So all of tumblr with its thousands upon thousands of different users and variety of social/economic statuses and interests should be demonized by the act of one clearly sick, untreated individual.
Good, so when can we shut down Reddit for fostering Elliot Rogers?[/QUOTE]
Never said shut down tumblr, did I? And I never said demonize the users, did I? You can keep trying to put words in my mouth, but I think it's time you came up with a new route. Maybe actually putting effort into it.
And either way, this still wouldn't be a valid complaint considering the communities this girl was in are way more prevalent on tumblr than Elliot Rogers' were on Reddit.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;49811078]Never said shut down tumblr, did I? And I never said demonize the users, did I? You can keep trying to put words in my mouth, but I think it's time you came up with a new route. Maybe actually putting effort into it.
And either way, this still wouldn't be a valid complaint considering the communities this girl was in are way more prevalent on tumblr than Elliot Rogers' were on Reddit.[/QUOTE]
Hey, y'know what, my bad here. Egg on my face on that one, I could have sworn I read "users" and not site, I'm sorry I jumped the gun on that one.
Didn't mean to sound snarky either, that was shitty on my part and I apologize.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;49811078]And either way, this still wouldn't be a valid complaint considering the communities this girl was in are way more prevalent on tumblr than Elliot Rogers' were on Reddit.[/QUOTE]
Are they? I'm sure you can find similar communities on Reddit, due to the subreddit system, of equal size. You'd generally find also that the "serial killer fandom" on tumblr is quite small and hated/ignored by a lot of the general population of tumblr, because a lot of people can see how awful it is. I see more Posts dragging believers than supporting them.
[QUOTE=KillRay;49811313]Are they? I'm sure you can find similar communities on Reddit, due to the subreddit system, of equal size. You'd generally find also that the "serial killer fandom" on tumblr is quite small and hated/ignored by a lot of the general population of tumblr, because a lot of people can see how awful it is. I see more Posts dragging believers than supporting them.[/QUOTE]
still haven't seen a source that she was even part of this circle
Generalizing websites as some sort of homogenous hivemind is stupid and I don't know why people still do it
[QUOTE=Jund;49811348]still haven't seen a source that she was even part of this circle[/QUOTE]
I said last page that I don't think she was. She had no interaction on most of her posts, so it seemed like she could have used blogspot or notepad to the same effect as tumblr.
People just want to blame the website she used instead of looking into the fact of her personal issues.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49811401]Generalizing websites as some sort of homogenous hivemind is stupid and I don't know why people still do it[/QUOTE]
Imo people tend to associate a website by the most vocal or publicized segments of that site. Sometimes it is indicative of the majority's opinion, other times it isn't. With tumblr, I feel it's honestly a mix of the two. It has both a large userbase and a penchant for fostering and encouraging radical-neoliberal/idpol beliefs. The trendiness of the basic rhetoric seems to trick a lot of people into accepting these medically or sociologically ignorant stances as absolute truth. This is why tumblr is, on a greater scale, more dangerous.
[QUOTE=KillRay;49811424]I said last page that I don't think she was. She had no interaction on most of her posts, so it seemed like she could have used blogspot or notepad to the same effect as tumblr.
People just want to blame the website she used instead of looking into the fact of her personal issues.[/QUOTE]
yeah other posters keep bringing it up like she was associated with them, but i haven't seen any proof of this
[editline]25th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=GayIlluminati;49811454]Imo people tend to associate a website by the most vocal or publicized segments of that site. Sometimes it is indicative of the majority's opinion, other times it isn't. With tumblr, I feel it's honestly a mix of the two. It has both a large userbase and a penchant for fostering and encouraging radical-neoliberal/idpol beliefs. The trendiness of the basic rhetoric seems to trick a lot of people into accepting these medically or sociologically ignorant stances as absolute truth. This is why tumblr is, on a greater scale, more dangerous.[/QUOTE]
neolib doesn't mean what you think it means
with the blogs i follow on tumblr i get about half and half lib/con. redpillers are a lot more common on tumblr than you think they are. while there is radical left there, the radical right community stretches just as far into neo-facist/nazi territory
i also see more posts going against ignorant stances than supporting them, but then again i try not to follow stupid blogs
here's a couple pics of her to put a face to the situation
[t]http://56.media.tumblr.com/c2918fdffd8c0919a814b329243df75e/tumblr_inline_nu6o7icKnC1suuc36_1280.jpg[/t]
[t]http://56.media.tumblr.com/eb968749e66ddc5c2038e66b052eee6e/tumblr_npuu1e0nty1t7o0jho1_1280.jpg[/t]
[t]http://41.media.tumblr.com/5132bf5758ed509e6b82ca5c65b04b56/tumblr_nr3c3uGGaA1t7o0jho3_1280.jpg[/t]
Another weak minded person who thinks she has been through 'a lot' but isn't even old enough to have faced the real world yet.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;49811909]Another weak minded person who thinks she has been through 'a lot' but isn't even old enough to have faced the real world yet.[/QUOTE]
Wow what an awful and unnecessary comment
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