Christian burned alive for not converting to Islam - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mudbone;25786646]Normally I like when Christians get burned alive but not when its by other religious bigots.[/QUOTE] A bigot calling other people bigots lol [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=RayDark;25786700]In itself, religion is the bane of mankind. It holds back many things and does a hell of a lot of things wrong. For instance, the scientific method and anything objecting the roman church during the renaissance meant that widespread science was looked down upon (You got raped), and as such, anything that holds back my science effectively holds me back and must be destroyed bar nothing.[/QUOTE] Corruption ran the roman church during the atheists oh-so-loved "dark period" When the corruption was exposed, people delved into science. It was a money grab, it had nothing to do with religion.

[QUOTE=Haxxer;25773279]I don't usually want to generalize, but fuck man, I hate this religion. [b]When[/b] has it actually contributed something good?[/QUOTE] Mathematics, architecture, science, etc It was pretty much the scholarly center of the world during the Christian middle ages, until the mongols came and killed everyone

[QUOTE=RayDark;25786895]Stop being such an ignorant fuck. Religion is a bullshit power scheme put into place by child molesters. It is as valid as saying that 'Eragon really exists and he is in the sky making dragons fly everywhere', Religion has been the cause of many wars, but point to one in which science and facts have caused. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] 'lol guys the gun made me kill your parents it wasnt me i swear'[/QUOTE] Do you like soap, surgery and art? i sure do, without religion, those things would be radically different probably for the worse. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] And maths and psychology. and algorithms. and medical science and the concept of numbers [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] and coffee and chess [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] and windmills.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787133]Do you like soap, surgery and art? i sure do, without religion, those things would be radically different probably for the worse. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] And maths and psychology. and algorithms. and medical science and the concept of numbers[/QUOTE] Can you please explain to me how it was not men who created these things who just happened to be religious?

and Martin Luther King [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Doriol;25787165]Can you please explain to me how it was not men who created these things who happened to be religious?[/QUOTE] The point is not what the religion spawns, but a counter to the argument used that religion stops advancement. All these things were started by religious people.

Soap was roman warhol, if I remember correctly

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787169] The point is not what the religion spawns, but a counter to the argument used that religion stops advancement. All these things were started by religious people.[/QUOTE] oh okay

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787095]A bigot calling other people bigots lol [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] Corruption ran the roman church during the atheists oh-so-loved "dark period" When the corruption was exposed, people delved into science. It was a money grab, it had nothing to do with religion.[/QUOTE] And yet scientific progress profited while the church was exposed. Still, had religion not existed, I rate scientific progress would've rocketed, instead of being held back for 500 years.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25787196]Soap was roman warhol, if I remember correctly[/QUOTE] ef, yeah, it was Roman. Shampoo, however, is Muslim.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787169]and Martin Luther King [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] The point is not what the religion spawns, but a counter to the argument used that religion stops advancement. All these things were started by religious people.[/QUOTE] And yet at some point these would've been invented. Probably for the worse, I agree, but other advancements would've been made much, much, much faster than they would've had religion interfered.

[QUOTE=RayDark;25787240]And yet scientific progress profited while the church was exposed. Still, had religion not existed, I rate scientific progress would've rocketed, instead of being held back for 500 years.[/QUOTE] Or the kings in power would have impeded scholars and intellectuals. Or another fascistic institution would have saturated it. The religion had fuck all to do with anything. Picture this, raydark, you're a dumb, illiterate tool and now imagine you're now a dumb illiterate peasant in the middle ages. You have 2/3, so this should be easy for you: if all the higher power told you to beleive, in say, the king, not god. Wouldn't you? [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] News-fucking-flash, raydark, the majority of scientific revolution contributors WERE religious.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787249]ef, yeah, it was Roman. Shampoo, however, is Muslim.[/QUOTE] Shampoo is just another form of soap :colbert: Come on that's really just a tweak of the soap idea, unless the shampoo was first. Although I do agree the ancient islam world was crucial to science. If only the fucking dark ages hadn't happened, we could be on fucking mars with permanent settlements by now :argh:

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787312]Or the kings in power would have impeded scholars and intellectuals. Or another fascistic institution would have saturated it. The religion had fuck all to do with anything. Picture this, raydark, you're a dumb, illiterate tool and now imagine you're now a dumb illiterate peasant in the middle ages. You have 2/3, so this should be easy for you: if all the higher power told you to beleive, in say, the king, not god. Wouldn't you? [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] News-fucking-flash, raydark, the majority of scientific revolution contributors WERE religious.[/QUOTE] Alright, then, warhol, if it was needed in the fucking 14-18th century, why the fuck do we have it holding back stem cell research these days? Huh? Did that cross your mind? The fact that it is currently holding back progress through denial. We certainly don't need medieval religious groups these days, and quite frankly, if you weren't a believer in god back-in-the-day, and practiced science, guess fucking what, you'd be executed. The majority of scientific research during the early time periods was due to the competition being taken out. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] Religion was once needed, but not anymore. And their oppression was fucking retarded.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25787347]Shampoo is just another form of soap :colbert: Come on that's really just a tweak of the soap idea, unless the shampoo was first. Although I do agree the ancient islam world was crucial to science. If only the fucking dark ages hadn't happened, we could be on fucking mars with permanent settlements by now :argh:[/QUOTE] Quit breakin' my balls here, i like soap :smug: Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787506] Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.[/QUOTE] :allears:

[QUOTE=RayDark;25787390]Alright, then, warhol, if it was needed in the fucking 14-18th century, why the fuck do we have it holding back stem cell research these days?[/quote] Tell me, where in any religious doctrine it hints stem cell research is forbidden. [quote]Huh? Did that cross your mind? The fact that it is currently holding back progress through denial.[/quote] How? [quote] We certainly don't need medieval religious groups these days, and quite frankly, if you weren't a believer in god back-in-the-day, and practiced science, guess fucking what, you'd be executed.[/quote] Like Isaac Newton, right? [quote]The majority of scientific research during the early time periods was due to the competition being taken out.[/quote] Or a light through the smoke screen. [quote]Religion was once needed, but not anymore. And their oppression was fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] you'll have radicalism anywhere. Moderates are harmless.

Middle easterners are awesome.

[QUOTE=RayDark;25787617]Middle easterners are awesome.[/QUOTE] I agree. I love the Middle East. I have an Arab Christian relative from Palestine, he's awesome. He has a house in Ramallah, some Zionists killed his mother and took his house in Jerusalem a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25787603]Tell me, where in any religious doctrine it hints stem cell research is forbidden. How? Like Isaac Newton, right? Or a light through the smoke screen. you'll have radicalism anywhere. Moderates are harmless.[/QUOTE] Isaac Newton was after the dark ages, boyo. Downpunch eradicated my formulated response and as such, I couldn't be fucked to rewrite another three paragraphs, but google 'religous groups opposition stem cell research' and you'll find a fuck load of religious groups against embryonic stem cells. It doesn't mention it in a religious doctrine. [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=marlkarxv2;25787878]I agree. I love the Middle East. I have an Arab Christian relative from Palestine, he's awesome. He has a house in Ramallah, some Zionists killed his mother and took his house in Jerusalem a long time ago.[/QUOTE] I'm half Persian, so I enjoy visiting Iran now and then.

[QUOTE=RayDark;25787880] [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] I'm half Persian, so I enjoy visiting Iran now and then.[/QUOTE] I haven't been to Iran, but I can because I have Jordanian citizenship. I say that because they don't accept Americans and whatnot if I recall correctly. I have a Qur'an holder from Iran.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;25787983]I haven't been to Iran, but I can because I have Jordanian citizenship. I say that because they don't accept Americans and whatnot if I recall correctly. I have a Qur'an holder from Iran.[/QUOTE] Cool, cool. They don't accept Americans? I don't believe that.

[QUOTE=RayDark;25787880]It doesn't mention it in a religious doctrine.[/QUOTE] So what's your fucking point?

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;25787983] I say that because they don't accept Americans and whatnot if I recall correctly. [/QUOTE] Fuck no.

[QUOTE=starpluck;25788167]Fuck no.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they send you back if you're American.

No they don't.

[QUOTE=starpluck;25788194]No they don't.[/QUOTE] Well, I suppose I learned something new today.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25788156]So what's your fucking point?[/QUOTE] Did I say a religious doctrine holds back scientific progress? No. I said religion does, and what does religion give birth to? Yes, religious groups. Religious groups holding back stem cell research/scientific progress.

Why can't we be friends?

[QUOTE=TH89;25787129]Mathematics, architecture, science, etc It was pretty much the scholarly center of the world during the Christian middle ages, until the mongols came and killed everyone[/QUOTE] Granted that was almost entirely because monks were among the few people taught to read. It was thought that if the commoner ever was able to read the bible themselves, then the church would lose its control.

i like how everyone's pissing over islam about this, even though they fail to realize that religion in general is the issue, not whichever particular branch the islams are stupid for burning him and he's stupid for being a twat and risking his wife and family over such a trivial, insignificant matter