• Christian burned alive for not converting to Islam
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[QUOTE=Strider*;25796823]Qur’an 5:51: “O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other…” Says Muslims should be careful of who they make alliances with( Notice Alliance we are not talking about personal friend but country or state wide, but peace is always open but getting friendly is pretty dangerous.) Qur’an 9:5: “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.” (You mind reading the verse after this?) Qur’an 48:29: “Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” (25) When those who disbelieve had set up in their hearts zealotry, the zealotry of the Age of Ignorance, then Allah sent down His peace of reassurance upon His messenger and upon the believers and imposed on them the word of self-restraint, for they were worthy of it and meet for it. And Allah is Aware of all things. (26) Allah hath fulfilled the vision for His messenger in very truth. Ye shall indeed enter the Inviolable Place of Worship, if Allah will, secure, (having your hair) shaven and cut, not fearing. But He knoweth that which ye know not, and hath given you a near victory beforehand. (27) He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion. And Allah sufficeth as a Witness. (28) Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward. (29) ( Notice the words zealots in the suras?) Qur’an 4:34: “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other….Good women are obedient. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great Excel means Men are suppose to do better than a woman in terms of things like physical endurance, but you know A woman can Excel also. About wife beating? Thank your for adding your own words to the translation and cutting 50% of Sura 48:28. [url]http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_abuse_badawi.htm[/url] Here is your little wife beating delima. Another bad poster? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Warhol;25787095]A bigot calling other people bigots lol [editline]1st November 2010[/editline] [/QUOTE] Yeah, Sorry if I feel they had it coming to them after the millions that THEY killed during the last thousand years. Before anyone says anything the bible accepts and is encourages the killings of non believers. That may not be how about 95% of modern Christians think however it is still in the book and if you call yourself a christian you must accept it or you cannot call yourself a real christian. I have no respect for any follower of any organized religion but Christians are top because typically they know nothing of their holy book or early church history.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;25800751]Yeah, Sorry if I feel they had it coming to them after the millions that THEY killed during the last thousand years. Before anyone says anything the bible accepts and is encourages the killings of non believers. That may not be how about 95% of modern Christians think however it is still in the book and if you call yourself a christian you must accept it or you cannot call yourself a real christian. I have no respect for any follower of any organized religion but Christians are top because typically they know nothing of their holy book or early church history.[/QUOTE] The book was written thousands of years ago, the morals and overall understanding of everything was drastically different, taking it 100% literally makes you an ignorant idiot, because you are choosing to believe everything an ignorant (at least when compared to our time) book is saying, without listening to anything else any science or current culture says. Point is, only crazy people think bible is 100% true, you can take some things from it because some things are indeed good morals to live by, but there are also some things that have lost all meaning throughout the years, and are viewed generally as bad.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;25800288]I find it funny that cavemen could tolerate homosexuality[/QUOTE] [citation needed]
[QUOTE=Doriol;25801436][citation needed][/QUOTE] I think instead he should say Ancient Greece tolerated homosexuality
so this is whats in the news huh .. whoa
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25801499]I think instead he should say Ancient Greece tolerated homosexuality[/QUOTE] ancient greece was pretty cool
[QUOTE=Doriol;25801566]ancient greece was pretty cool[/QUOTE] Yep, I wish we had stayed on that track to be honest
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25801580]Yep, I wish we had stayed on that track to be honest[/QUOTE] wow no i played as greece in civ5 and THEY STINK rome for life!!
[QUOTE=Strider*;25796605]I don't recall Muhammad saying anything close to this..[/QUOTE] Now you know.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25800178]You know, there's more to that verse, just like all the other ones quoted out of context. It's I explained this almost half a year ago: [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/925485-Islam-in-Britain?p=21448938&viewfull=1#post21448938[/URL][/QUOTE] You know what's funny? I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25801580]Yep, I wish we had stayed on that track to be honest[/QUOTE] ya slavery owned
[QUOTE=Mudbone;25800751]Yeah, Sorry if I feel they had it coming to them after the millions that THEY killed during the last thousand years.[/quote] give me a tally, boyo. How many people died from religion. [quote]Before anyone says anything the bible accepts and is encourages the killings of non believers. That may not be how about 95% of modern Christians think however it is still in the book and if you call yourself a christian you must accept it or you cannot call yourself a real christian. [/quote] Where does it say this? [quote] I have no respect for any follower of any organized religion but Christians are top because typically they know nothing of their holy book or early church history.[/QUOTE] So food pantries, the salvation army, clothing drives are all evil?
[QUOTE=Warhol;25806019]give me a tally, boyo. How many people died from religion. Where does it say this? So food pantries, the salvation army, clothing drives are all evil?[/QUOTE] the bible does say that you should kill non believers and it even says that you should strangle the fetuses and kill the goats of the non believers, but whatever The church only gives a percent of its earnings to feeding people so i would say it would be better to give your money to some other charity, about the war thing, it was the biggest reason for war back then and even today is a used to start wars
AbdullahalKarim, TurbisV2, Strider, and zombiefreak are awfully quiet
[QUOTE=Warhol;25806235]AbdullahalKarim, TurbisV2, Strider, and zombiefreak are awfully quiet[/QUOTE] they prolly at school, or something
Grammar school :smug:
[QUOTE=Mudbone;25800751] Before anyone says anything the bible accepts and is encourages the killings of non believers. That may not be how about 95% of modern Christians think however it is still in the book and if you call yourself a christian you must accept it or you cannot call yourself a real christian. [/QUOTE] Wow, where did you hear this from? Christians aren't supposed to follow the old laws according to Jesus. The old laws were meant for the people of Israel.
[QUOTE=Grotsky;25806397]Wow, where did you hear this from? Christians aren't supposed to follow the old laws according to Jesus. The old laws were meant for the people of Israel.[/QUOTE] Very few militant antitheists (most of facepunch) actually read the Bible. Don't be surprised.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25806019]give me a tally, boyo. How many people died from religion. No way I can count just how many from all religions over history. Il add up the stats from most major events later gotta leave in just a min. Where does it say this? [I]If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. [/I](Zechariah 13:3 NAB) dut:13 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God So food pantries, the salvation army, clothing drives are all evil?[/QUOTE] no
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25796497]Indian numerals. The Arabs were just the ones who brought it to europe after gaining it off the indians.[/QUOTE] Which took it off of the Persians. [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] Barrelroll5 is a faggot.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;25806839]no[/QUOTE] "Wow, where did you hear this from? Christians aren't supposed to follow the old laws according to Jesus. The old laws were meant for the people of Israel." Missed that ^ [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] and you missed my question: [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] So food pantries, the salvation army, clothing drives are all evil?
[QUOTE=Grotsky;25806397]Wow, where did you hear this from? Christians aren't supposed to follow the old laws according to Jesus. The old laws were meant for the people of Israel.[/QUOTE] 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 17-20 NIV In any case, it's a fairly contradictory book, so it could be either way.
funny how FP seems to think that as soon as someone attacks the christian god that they are suddenly an atheist. which isn't true at all.
Guess Encar got his ass kicked.
Wow. That's fucking horrible.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25807784]"Wow, where did you hear this from? Christians aren't supposed to follow the old laws according to Jesus. The old laws were meant for the people of Israel." Missed that ^ [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] and you missed my question: [editline]2nd November 2010[/editline] So food pantries, the salvation army, clothing drives are all evil?[/QUOTE] I said no food pantries or salvation army are not evil. However they are not overly religious organizations. Anytime I go into a salvation army Their are no crosses or anything of the sort. Old laws question above by Sgt Doom.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;25811615]I said no food pantries or salvation army are not evil. However they are not overly religious organizations. Anytime I go into a salvation army Their are no crosses or anything of the sort. Old laws question above by Sgt Doom.[/QUOTE] Food pantries are IN CHURCHES You don't crosses everywhere, therefore religion has fuck all to do with it?
[QUOTE=Doriol;25806699]Very few militant antitheists (most of facepunch) actually read the Bible. Don't be surprised.[/QUOTE] "Militant" would imply activism, which would mean getting off of the computer chair, which would mean not Facepunch.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;25814090]"Militant" would imply activism, which would mean getting off of the computer chair, which would mean not Facepunch.[/QUOTE] no not really
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