Christian burned alive for not converting to Islam - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774638]Yes, and the Quran is about a quarter of the size of the Bible, thus is it 400% more violent?[/QUOTE] Hahahaha Oh god you're a real classic You're like a little wind up doll that speaks but instead of saying cute things it says stupid things

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774623]So you ignored the entire part where it said that MUSLIMS INVADED THE LAND IN THE FIRST PLACE. BYZANTINE LAND, AND THE BYZANTINES REQUESTED HELP.[/QUOTE] muslims invaded the land that was invaded before by a couple of dudes who were invaded a very long time ago by people who invaded it before i don't see how this counts towards anything though, either way it's evidence that people convince other people to do awful things

[QUOTE=thisispain;25774628]unless he speaks arabic, which i doubt, he's getting the interpretation from someone, and how exactly is he getting it from[/QUOTE] hai guiz nly i no teh secert coeds det unlcok teh meenins

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774669]hai guiz nly i no teh secert coeds det unlcok teh meenins[/QUOTE] it's arabic poetry as well, so no doubt is it also subject to free interpretation by the reader, if you are a neu-critic

Corruption, Violance... How can one do this to another person? This act is just not human. It makes me want to scream at humanity.

[QUOTE=Fort83;25774687]Facepunch in a nutshell: Every user thinks he/she is right in an argument and will not back down nor admit they are wrong (if they are wrong)[/QUOTE] that's nice, anything good to contribute, or are you just trying to up your post count

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774669]hai guiz nly i no teh secert coeds det unlcok teh meenins[/QUOTE] why cant you just admit that both religions did really stupid stuff but most of there followers are not bad people

[QUOTE=thisispain;25774698]it's arabic poetry as well, so no doubt is it also subject to free interpretation by the reader, if you are a neu-critic[/QUOTE] Actually most of it is direct commands, at least the parts relating to dealings with non-Muslims

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25774707]why cant you just admit that both religions did really stupid stuff but most of there followers are not bad people[/QUOTE] everyone needs a villain

[quote={abk}abbysciuto;25773149]you've never talked with a muslim, have you?[/quote] RACISM IS OKAY BECAUSE I'M ON A FORUM AND I HAVE ANONYMlTY.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774534]2:193 9:5 9:29 There were brothels in Rome during the Vatican rule... [editline]31st October 2010[/editline] Thanks for giving me all of 30 seconds...[/QUOTE] 2:193 9:5 9:29 Awesome lets get to it? Book 9 why am I not surpised? SURA 9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Sounds pretty intense huh? WHAT ABOUT THE SURA AFTER IT HUH? 9:6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. See now shut up please. Time to go to the next one! Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low Pretty intense huh? (3) Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). Their you go. 2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. So by using this logic the black slaves should have done nothing and sat like little ducks while their white slave master rules over them. Something bad with fighting against persecution? Please bring me moar?

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774718]Actually most of it is direct commands, at least the parts relating to dealings with non-Muslims[/QUOTE] direct commands if you are reading the abridged version translated and interpreted by someone it's akin to trying to understand judaism through a copy of the torah translated by a neo-nazi

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25774661]Hahahaha Oh god you're a real classic You're like a little wind up doll that speaks but instead of saying cute things it says stupid things[/QUOTE] I noticed whenever you're in a argument you always resort to calling people stupid or dumb.

[quote]But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.[/quote] TRY TO FOLLOW ME BUT IF YOU CAN'T, TAKE 5 I love the Qur'an [editline]31st October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. N;25774751]I noticed whenever you're in a argument you always resort to calling people stupid or dumb.[/QUOTE] I'll only call people dumb if they are making posts so asinine that they don't deserve a response. He was using the SIZE OF THE QUR'AN as an argument for how violent it is. Do you have any idea how retarded that is?

[QUOTE=Mr. N;25774751]I noticed whenever you're in a argument you always resort to calling people stupid or dumb.[/QUOTE] people need to know they are stupid or dumb, it's the only way one can get educated

[QUOTE=thisispain;25774749]direct commands if you are reading the abridged version translated and interpreted by someone it's akin to trying to understand judaism through a copy of the torah translated by a neo-nazi[/QUOTE] Where did you get interpretation by a neo-nazi from?

[QUOTE=Mr. N;25774804]Where did you get interpretation by a neo-nazi from?[/QUOTE] do you understand how analogies work

[QUOTE=Mr. N;25774751]I noticed whenever you're in a argument you always resort to calling people stupid or dumb.[/QUOTE] you have to admit everyone calls the person there fighting with dumb at least once and at least we are not like Ecarnacion who is just making stupid posts without points and rating everyone who doesnt agree dumb

[QUOTE=Mr. N;25774804]Where did you get interpretation by a neo-nazi from?[/QUOTE] fake talmud and torah's written by nazi's were distributed among germans and others

I have a friend that said he should've converted because he was selfish... not because he was burned alive but because his wife was raped. Fucking hypocritical as hell. I may have a deep seeded hatred for all religion, but if someone believes something they should not be forced to change for any reason other than their own.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774638]Yes, and the Quran is about a quarter of the size of the Bible, thus is it 400% more violent?[/QUOTE] The Qur'an, now with 400% more violence!

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[QUOTE=Yusuf;25774740]2:193 9:5 9:29 Awesome lets get to it? Book 9 why am I not surpised? SURA 9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Sounds pretty intense huh? WHAT ABOUT THE SURA AFTER IT HUH? 9:6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. See now shut up please.[/quote] So basically telling them the Messages of Islam and then sending them away to think about it justifies murderings, enslaving, and besieging non-Muslims? What? [QUOTE=Yusuf;25774740][B][/B]Time to go to the next one! Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low Pretty intense huh? (3) Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). Their you go.[/quote] So having a peace treaty, which by the way in Islam can't be longer than 10 years, justifies killing or subjugating all non-Muslims? You're a fucking wacko. [QUOTE=Yusuf;25774740]2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. So by using this logic the black slaves should have done nothing and sat like little ducks while their white slave master rules over them. Something bad with fighting against persecution?[/QUOTE] So you ignored the religion is for Allah part, that is calling for Islam to be the dominate religion of the world... typical of you as a Muslim to try to deceive the members of the forum, your dirty tricks won't work on anyone who has actually studied Islam. [editline]31st October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. N;25774751]I noticed whenever you're in a argument you always resort to calling people stupid or dumb.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU[/media]

[QUOTE=thisispain;25774837]fake talmud and torah's written by nazi's were distributed among germans and others[/QUOTE] Yeah but the translations to english were done by english speaking Muslims, not people who have anything against the religion. The poetry is obviously going to be misunderstood and I've heard of a few guys getting pissed off over mistranslations but in general, the message is still there.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774867]your dirty tricks won't work on anyone who has actually studied Islam.[/QUOTE] ok i'm done i can no longer take you seriously [QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774867][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU[/media][/QUOTE] the truth hurtz

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774867]So you ignored the religion is for Allah part, that is calling for Islam to be the dominate religion of the world... typical of you as a Muslim to try to deceive the members of the forum, your dirty tricks won't work on anyone who has actually studied Islam.[/QUOTE] Like you?

[quote] your dirty tricks won't work on anyone who has actually studied Islam. [/quote] i assume you've written some papers on islam and understand arabic otherwise you're lying

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25774867]So basically telling them the Messages of Islam and then sending them away to think about it justifies murderings, enslaving, and besieging non-Muslims? What? [B]Are you serious?[/B] So having a peace treaty, which by the way in Islam can't be longer than 10 years, justifies killing or subjugating all non-Muslims? You're a fucking wacko. [B]find me where it says 10 years? It also says in the quran that you should reach your hand out for a treaty if they want it.[/B] [B]Just pay your taxes and Muslims will defend you with their lives.[/B] So you ignored the religion is for Allah part, that is calling for Islam to be the dominate religion of the world... typical of you as a Muslim to try to deceive the members of the forum, your dirty tricks won't work on anyone who has actually studied Islam. [B].................................................no comment[/B] [editline]31st October 2010[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU[/media][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lazor;25774830]do you understand how analogies work[/QUOTE] It's a silly analogy in my opinion. [QUOTE=thisispain;25774837]fake talmud and torah's written by nazi's were distributed among germans and others[/QUOTE] So your saying that most translations of the Quaran were translated to make it seem violent and wrong?

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25774762]TRY TO FOLLOW ME BUT IF YOU CAN'T, TAKE 5 I love the Qur'an [editline]31st October 2010[/editline] I'll only call people dumb if they are making posts so asinine that they don't deserve a response. He was using the SIZE OF THE QUR'AN as an argument for how violent it is. Do you have any idea how retarded that is?[/QUOTE] Well if they have an equal number of violent passages, and the Quran is a quarter of the size of the Bible, then it would be 400% more violent by ratio. I wasn't actually suggesting it, I was asking you if you understoof the logic.