• Apple announces 27" iMac with 5120x2880 display
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[QUOTE=Dermock;46253149]with the speed graphics cards are advancing at 4k gaming for enthusiasts is not too far away. 4k gaming is already possible for those wanting to shell out a few grand on GPUs. 1080p is gonna get shoved to the side eventually, and 1440p/4k will move in.[/QUOTE] The thing is if you can run a game at 4k then you can run a better looking game at 1080p. Do we want more pixelz or actual more advanced graphics.
Can't wait to try this out at the mall and then cry myself to sleep because I can't afford it.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46252855]I want a pc amoled display too.[/QUOTE] How's that dumb? Amoleds have beautiful colors and pretty much perfect blacks.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;46252837]That's honestly a bit of an overkill.[/QUOTE] there's no such thing. if we never push the envelope there will never be advances
Man for that price it's like getting a monitor with a built in computer thrown in as lagniappe. Say what you want about Mac OS, but they know how to pick a monitor. Hopefully this means that the panel will trickle down to the korean grey market re-sellers for 1/5th the price.
[QUOTE=Major_Vice;46254653]Man for that price it's like getting a monitor with a built in computer thrown in as lagniappe. Say what you want about Mac OS, but they know how to pick a monitor. Hopefully this means that the panel will trickle down to the korean grey market re-sellers for 1/5th the price.[/QUOTE]it did with apple's previous monitors. So no reason why it shouldn't.
[QUOTE=tom1029;46254525]The thing is if you can run a game at 4k then you can run a better looking game at 1080p. Do we want more pixelz or actual more advanced graphics.[/QUOTE] display resolution is literally a non-factor for devs except in cases of restricted hardware.
[QUOTE=meppers;46253212]You can edit videos with a 1080p full quality image in the corner of your screen [t]http://vashivisuals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/new-adobe-premiere.png[/t][/QUOTE] on preview quality mode because i assume there's no way this thing will be fast enough to keep up with its own monitor apple always astound me with their build quality and monitors but the hardware behind it isn't there. it already requires a really powerful rig, 6gb graphics, to run most modern games on ultra at 1440p, let alone 2880 [QUOTE=katbug;46254705]display resolution is literally a non-factor for devs except in cases of restricted hardware.[/QUOTE] yeh it is? you're gonna get pretty hugely significant frame drops going from one resolution standard up to the next. when i upgraded from a 1680 monitor to a 2560 one i went from getting like 50fps in a lot of games to 20
[QUOTE=alien_guy;46252902]Dell's 5K monitor is $2500[/QUOTE] Not for long.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;46252859]Starts at 2499 dollars. Considering what 4K monitors cost, that's legitimately surprising.[/QUOTE] Thats still like 5 times the price of a 4k screen.
this is great and all but how much would it really even be utilized? there's not a huge 4K movie library right now, and besides that how much gaming can this thing do at that resolution? from what i gather this would be great for looking at huge photos and doing drawings but i guess i just fail to see what this would allow me to do in terms of visibility. besides pressuring other companies to follow suit
[QUOTE=KingKombat;46254826]this is great and all but how much would it really even be utilized? there's not a huge 4K movie library right now, and besides that how much gaming can this thing do at that resolution? from what i gather this would be great for looking at huge photos and doing drawings but i guess i just fail to see what this would allow me to do in terms of visibility. besides pressuring other companies to follow suit[/QUOTE] Its mainly just greater visible detail on your creative works, without having to zoom in on them. Its a luxury.
it's to make text smoother. it's arse for editing photos and videos on. that's why i didn't go retina, because i can't go 1:1 pixels
[QUOTE=Glitchman;46252899]Imacs are pretty underpowered Even in an updated model, how will they drive that resolution?[/QUOTE] Optimization. Macs aren't open devices for a reason, look at how a console such as the PS3 from 2006 can run games that a 2006 PC can't. [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;46253131]I would be on the fence about agreeing with you, but for a 27" display? Lol. Huge overkill. At least make a bigger damn monitor if you're going to do resolutions past 4K.[/QUOTE] DPI scaling
[QUOTE=codenamecueball;46254880]it's to make text smoother. it's arse for editing photos and videos on. that's why i didn't go retina, because i can't go 1:1 pixels[/QUOTE] yeah you can. updated adobe creative suite apps ignore OS X scaling for the image canvas (aka 1:1.)
[QUOTE=Lolkork;46253090]1080p is alright, and you don't need like 4 980s to run games at that resolution.[/QUOTE] Of course you only think about vidya. 1080p limits me for general productivity purposes and I look forward to surpassing it
if you use avid (i don't think avid has the same support) then it's hardly retina at fault even then [quote=Anandtech]How pixels map to points is determined by the backing scale factor. The backing scale factor can either be set to 1.0 or 2.0. In the case of the former you get 1:1 point to pixel mapping, while in the latter each point is backed by four pixels. The backing scale factor isn’t a global value, it can be set on a per element basis, allowing controls to to be legible while you get the benefits of a higher resolution for additional screen real estate. This aspect of OS X is key to enabling good behavior in applications as you’ll soon see[/quote]
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;46255011]Of course you only think about vidya. 1080p limits me for general productivity purposes and I look forward to surpassing it[/QUOTE] yeah I moved to 2560x1440 and the amount of space and windows you can fit, it's crazy
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46254593]How's that dumb? Amoleds have beautiful colors and pretty much perfect blacks.[/QUOTE] I've heard the colours become all fucked after a few years of use, and that's just on a smartphone which isn't used much compared to a monitor.
[QUOTE=tom1029;46254525]The thing is if you can run a game at 4k then you can run a better looking game at 1080p. Do we want more pixelz or actual more advanced graphics.[/QUOTE] trick question, the answer is "more gameplay"
IPS > AMOLED for desktop displays. IPS is more capable of properly representing colours for longer without fear of subpixel damage like in some older smartphones (it still happens to some degree). it's also more expensive to produce in general. AMOLED is no more capable at producing 'vivid' colours (whatever that's meant to imply) than IPS in 2014. IPS also allows for brighter displays
[QUOTE=Ajacks;46253504]That looks like a fantastic monitor, and a good price as well. But answer me this, why can't it be 5120x3200 16:10? I hate the shift away from 30" Displays towards 27"s. You literally gain nothing with that aspect ratio over a 16:10. I would hate to downgrade to a 27" personally.[/QUOTE] it's because it's cheaper to make 16:9's. The manufacturers make mostly 16:9 and are shutting down most of their 16:10 operations, so way less 16:10 panels for companies to buy. That and since 16:10 is now legacy, there are almost no super high pixel density 16:10 screens being made, kinda like how there are no new computers with floppy drives in them because there are no floppy drives being made anymore.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;46255096]it's because it's cheaper to make 16:9's. The manufacturers make mostly 16:9 and are shutting down most of their 16:10 operations, so way less 16:10 panels for companies to buy. That and since 16:10 is now legacy, there are almost no super high pixel density 16:10 screens being made, kinda like how there are no new computers with floppy drives in them because there are no floppy drives being made anymore.[/QUOTE] retina macbooks are 16:10 and will be for the foreseeable future
Not gonna lie, that display gives me a semi erection. If I had $2600 in disposable income I'd buy one in a heartbeat [sp]and then install windows on it.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dermock;46253149]with the speed graphics cards are advancing at 4k gaming for enthusiasts is not too far away. 4k gaming is already possible for those wanting to shell out a few grand on GPUs. 1080p is gonna get shoved to the side eventually, and 1440p/4k will move in.[/QUOTE] In regards to gaming, there is no point in replacing your current monitor with a monitor that favors higher resolution but not higher refresh rate. 1080p @ 120Hz (144Hz) would be far more beneficial for games than 4k @ 60Hz.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;46255126]Not gonna lie, that display gives me a semi erection. If I had $2600 in disposable income I'd buy one in a heartbeat [sp]and then install windows on it.[/sp][/QUOTE] and promptly suffer because of windows' awful dpi scaling [editline]16th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=The Baconator;46255129]In regards to gaming, there is no point in replacing your current monitor with a monitor that favors higher resolution but not higher refresh rate. 1080p @ 120Hz (144Hz) would be far more beneficial for games than 4k @ 60Hz.[/QUOTE] that is entirely situational.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46255092]IPS > AMOLED for desktop displays. IPS is more capable of properly representing colours for longer without fear of subpixel damage like in some older smartphones (it still happens to some degree). it's also more expensive to produce in general. AMOLED is no more capable at producing 'vivid' colours (whatever that's meant to imply) than IPS in 2014. IPS also allows for brighter displays[/QUOTE] all of this will become moot when Dolby release their display technology which is literally better than real life
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;46253131]I would be on the fence about agreeing with you, but for a 27" display? Lol. Huge overkill. At least make a bigger damn monitor if you're going to do resolutions past 4K.[/QUOTE] Indeed. The legibility is going to be pretty bad.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46255131]and promptly suffer because of windows' awful dpi scaling[/QUOTE] I was thinking of this, but apparently Windows 10 is supposed to finally have proper scaling. [editline]16th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=27X;46255216]Indeed. The legibility is going to be pretty bad.[/QUOTE] This is a complete non-issue because of scaling. If anything it will be even more legible because of how goddamn crisp and smooth the upscaled UI assets and text will be.
I'm talking moving image and text across platforms and apps, iOS already has perfectly fine scaling right now. The monitor should be at LEAST 30" if not 35 at that density, your eyes would thank you for it.
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