Three-year-old girl beheaded with meat cleaver in 'random' attack - Polidicks

[QUOTE=sgman91;50031786]Also remember that every victim of a re-offending murderer, whether after release or while in prison, who would have gotten the death sentence is on the hands of the people who say that we are "above" killing people. As I've said countless times on this forum, I see the death penalty for clear and intentional murders as the ultimate pronouncement that the right to one's own life is the single most valuable thing to our society.[/QUOTE] That's a completely incompetent and disillusioned view in modern society. This guy has drug charges, prior convictions. He if he has been helped by people then instead of thrown in prison to learn his lesson, perhaps this wouldn't have happened. You can be just as cynical about society as you want, but rehabilitation causes less reoffending rates and less amount of crime in any given populace. The death penalty should be completely off the table in all regards. It's societies failure that caused a crime like this to happen, not the offenders. To punish is to just conflagrate the issue. I've known people who got convicted on drug charges and came out of jail a harder person, then arrested for assault and other behavior after their stint. Our current system does nothing but create criminals, and target ethnic groups. I'm America there is obviously a problem when we have more percentage of our people in prison than any other country in the world. People who commit crimes like this got to that point somehow. If you can stop the cycle maybe my friend who was arrested for smoking pot wouldn't be in jail right now for battery. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;50031821]Killing a person who's gone through a fair trial for unjustified murder is not morally equivilent to murdering an innocent person. The phrase "it's not civilized" is literally meaningless because you're just using your arbitrary definition of "civilized."[/QUOTE] It is the same however if that person is innocent in both cases. You're letting society murder an individual in both cases, who is innocent. It's like being accused of liking Adele. In one case you go through a trial where the court provides evidence, the jury finds that it is their opinion that you like Adele. The second is your classmates accusing you of liking Adele. Society, in both cases, decided that you like Adele. Due process means nothing when the conclusion is the same.

[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;50032245]It's societies failure that caused a crime like this to happen, not the offenders.[/QUOTE] Uh, i'm sorry, but the offender is 100% responsible for a crime. A person has free will, they chose to do something they knew was wrong. You can't go blaming society because someone didn't want to follow the law because they didn't agree with it. You know what you do if you disagree with the law? You go about it legally and politically. If you choose to break the law, you frankly deserve the punishment. While our surroundings and society do have an effect on our decision-making, we have a free will, and unless you have a serious mental handicap, you also have an innate moral code. Deep down we all know the difference between right and wrong, but sometimes people choose to ignore that.

[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;50032245]That's a completely incompetent and disillusioned view in modern society. This guy has drug charges, prior convictions. He if he has been helped by people then instead of thrown in prison to learn his lesson, perhaps this wouldn't have happened. You can be just as cynical about society as you want, but rehabilitation causes less reoffending rates and less amount of crime in any given populace. The death penalty should be completely off the table in all regards. It's societies failure that caused a crime like this to happen, not the offenders. To punish is to just conflagrate the issue. I've known people who got convicted on drug charges and came out of jail a harder person, then arrested for assault and other behavior after their stint. Our current system does nothing but create criminals, and target ethnic groups. I'm America there is obviously a problem when we have more percentage of our people in prison than any other country in the world. People who commit crimes like this got to that point somehow. If you can stop the cycle maybe my friend who was arrested for smoking pot wouldn't be in jail right now for battery. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] It is the same however if that person is innocent in both cases. You're letting society murder an individual in both cases, who is innocent. It's like being accused of liking Adele. In one case you go through a trial where the court provides evidence, the jury finds that it is their opinion that you like Adele. The second is your classmates accusing you of liking Adele. Society, in both cases, decided that you like Adele. Due process means nothing when the conclusion is the same.[/QUOTE] This is a disgusting viewpoint and completely throws out all responsibility for anything for all individuals. Society is indeed a huge factor in personal development, but in the end you are responsible for you.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033350]It is not simply a huge factor, it is the main factor. Society, instituition, our advancement in psychiatry, drug control and legislature. These are what killed the girl. Saying simply "lol he as an individual chose this like choosing in lotto just execute him already" is a cop-out.[/QUOTE] Are you saying he was in no way shape or form responsible for his actions? Or that the same applies to me or anyone else?

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033399]What is civilized is acknowledging every life counts. Innocent or guilty. Guilty people have appropraite sentences they serve. One of our societies core rules, our civilizations one might say, is not to commit murder. Letting people live. Murderer breaks this rule, showing he cant function in our society. But what pushed him to kill? There is always a reason, a cause; randoms dont exist. We as a society have the power to fix this. If it is mental illness, psychiatry should overtake. If any other motive, prison sentences should. His probability of reoffending should be a concern, but this is no grounds to murder that person. That is a kneejerk reaction, that is breaking our own rule. Reoffenders are edge cases, just like falsely accused guilty people. Not mentioning murdering an innocent, If you kill someone they dont have a chance to appeal the case do they? And what is unjustified and justified murder? What or who draws that line? That is one dangerous idea you have, which is why almost no civilized country rightfully doesnt join you in that.[/QUOTE] Please give me your definition of "civilized". As I see it many countries in the world employ execution. A great many of them are "civilized"...

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50029083]"Natural feeling" is an odd phrase there, in my opinion. We are not programmed to feel that way, since not everybody, even though a majority, feel that way. Expected is better, IMO.[/QUOTE] There was a poll after the whole Anders Breivik thing in Norway about the death penalty and the results were 68% against 16% don't know 16% for Which even to me was a bit surprising. I've always been against the death penalty. If you rehabilitate someone and they turn out fine afterwards I don't see the problem in keeping someone alive. I'd imagine it's also useful to learn why people do these things in the first place in order to prevent them from happening again. But then again we don't have much crime here and I don't think space is a problem either.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033425] my opinion.[/QUOTE] This is where you are wrong. Nobody's opinion is an absolute truth. I might even be wrong. But you cannot claim your personal opinions as fact.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;50029035]I think it's a natural feeling to want to see a child muderer/molester put to death for their crimes but not the action of a civilized society.[/QUOTE] Why is it deemed "not civilized" though

[QUOTE=CapsAdmin;50033442]There was a poll after the whole Anders Breivik thing in Norway about the death penalty and the results were 68% against 16% don't know 16% for Which even to me was a bit surprising. I've always been against the death penalty. If you rehabilitate someone and they turn out fine afterwards I don't see the problem in keeping someone alive. I'd imagine it's also useful to learn why people do these things in the first place in order to prevent them from happening again. But then again we don't have much crime here and I don't think space is a problem either.[/QUOTE] I would be willing to agree with you if you could explain what this rehabilitation is. I'm being honest - most people use it like a magical word without really explaining what it entails and, like I said, I would love to be against the death penalty. It's just that no one has made a case against it. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033524]Should we really discuss how our modern justice system came to be what it is today? Should we lecture about why old practices such as capital punishment and eye for an eye were abolished? Or should we continue to argue the semantics of the word civilization? Do you really want that lecture right now?[/QUOTE] Maybe if you stopped treating other people like bumbling idiots people would want to listen to you and learn. No one wants to hear you be condescending, dude. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033425]He is not in shape to be responsible. It is like accusing a child. Sentience and being able to healthily think forms the basis of responsibility, along with power etc. Thus the responsibility here lies on the instituition that made him walk the streets with a cleaver. It was preventable by them, not him. Active doer of an action is not necessarily the responsible party. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] Which countries have execution? In Europe almost none. Apart from USA, I dont know any. Civilized has to do with our modern understanding of ethics and human rights. The countries that have a functioning social contract between the national and the government, in which human rights are most repsected and preserved, are civilized in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Honestly, "human rights" isn't an argument. Human rights are, again, a system we created and could totally be debated. That's not me trying to be super contrarian, but you've really got this superiority that rides on human rights and "civilization" as if they were two objectives that don't need to be debated to these [I]intellectual peasants[/I]. Make a real argument.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50033419]Please give me your definition of "civilized". As I see it many countries in the world employ execution. A great many of them are "civilized"...[/QUOTE] Do you mean a great many as in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen, who employ execution for apostasy? or add onto that list Nigeria and Brunei for countries that execute people for homosexuality? or the countries that execute people for witchcraft? Like I don't want to get into this discussion but I just wanted to say that a VAST majority of the countries still practicing capital punishment actively would not be considered civilised by most people

Well, see, that's what I'm talking about. You keep saying we shouldn't talk about things because they create disagreement which you consider uncivil. You think that for a society to be civil, we should all agree on something. You subscribe to that point of view so much that you are very wiling to suggest that we are already on the same page about it. I'm not suggesting you're a bad guy for that, but I think you might view society as very delicate, or you might be chasing after a more utopian society that doesn't exist, really. Disagreement is gonna happen, and it's better for the pillars of society to undergo checks for integrity. [I]Should we do this? Is this out dated? Could we rethink this?[/I] To me, questioning the fundamental idea that all men are equal is important. The fact that you aren't able to explain why murder is bad outside of defaulting to the old, baseless notion that men are equal. That's precisely what I'm talking about. It's not meant to be a knock on you or others for being stupid because you guys aren't, but I think that we cling far too much on the protection for life. Should we protect [I]all[/I] life? I don't think so. Some life sucks. Some life destroys other life. It is what it is. I don't see why we're above destroying life. Not all destruction is bad. Sometimes, destruction is necessary. Wildfires are necessary, after all. They are two entirely different purposes, of course, but at the very least destruction is natural. Killing people who have murdered and who can or will murder again isn't gross to me. It's just a fact of life. It's an ugly aspect of life, but it's there, and I'm not so afraid of ugliness that I'm willing to lie about reality.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033399]What is civilized is acknowledging every life counts. Innocent or guilty. Guilty people have appropraite sentences they serve. One of our societies core rules, our civilizations one might say, is not to commit murder. Letting people live. Murderer breaks this rule, showing he cant function in our society. But what pushed him to kill? There is always a reason, a cause; randoms dont exist. We as a society have the power to fix this. If it is mental illness, psychiatry should overtake. If any other motive, prison sentences should. His probability of reoffending should be a concern, but this is no grounds to murder that person. That is a kneejerk reaction, that is breaking our own rule. Reoffenders are edge cases, just like falsely accused guilty people. Not mentioning murdering an innocent, If you kill someone they dont have a chance to appeal the case do they? And what is unjustified and justified murder? What or who draws that line? That is one dangerous idea you have, which is why almost no civilized country rightfully doesnt join you in that.[/QUOTE] Killing a person justly is definitionally not murder. You might not like the idea that society has to decide what is unjustified and justified, but that's just the way it is, sorry. By saying that the death penalty is wrong YOU are saying that it's unjustified. You can't get around this fact. Sadly, in the current age of relative morality, there's literally no way to make any sort of objective argument in favor of any side.

Oh, forgot. My brother is a soldier. By American definition, he is a paid killer. By the definition of the countries he will be asked to invade, he's a murderer. In terms of human rights, if all men are equal, he's going out there to unjustly take people's lives. But, according to military law and what not, there's definitely a ruleset that allows some killing. What's that about? People are allowed to kill others in self-defense. But that's an affront to the idea that all lives are equal in worth. So, what does that mean? We make decisions all the time when it comes to weighing lives. It's just that most people are uncomfortable with doing so - that it somehow poisons their previously comfortable, beautiful view of the world. They forget that the world is beautiful only because of the darkness that exists within it. Just don't lie to yourself and say that you'll never have to wander in those dark spots. "We should never have to kill anyone" is a pretty idea, but not a realistic one.

[QUOTE=Scot;50026417]watch yourselves on that edge[/QUOTE] Huh huh good one bro lmao man is that guy stupid for having emotional response. Really, way to be that jackass

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50033524]Should we really discuss how our modern justice system came to be what it is today? Should we lecture about why old practices such as capital punishment and eye for an eye were abolished? Or should we continue to argue the semantics of the word civilization? Do you really want that lecture right now?[/QUOTE] Yeah. It's a good discussion to have.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;50034112]Huh huh good one bro lmao man is that guy stupid for having emotional response. Really, way to be that jackass[/QUOTE] Maybe people should try to be less emotional on a forum where premeditating your responses is a thing I mean I understand empathy and all but calling for barbarically violent treatment of the offender can't be justified

lock this dude up in solitary confinement forever. That would be way worse than a death sentence imo, imagine being alone for the rest of your life. He'd probably end up killing himself anyways. That poor family, jesus christ. [editline]30th March 2016[/editline] I really hope that mom will be okay... I can't even imagine what it's like losing a kid like that.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;50030492]So many of you turn into Saints. Acting like those of us who believe he should be killed are some horrible savages. Get off your high horses, he needs to die end of the story. Sure it'd be a short pleasure for us, but if it was my child who was beheaded, I'd think that I'd feel happier if I saw him slowly and painfully die, instead of him getting to live in a facility that I was paying for to care for him.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Govna;50030692]Because you're sheltered. You don't have to take care of this guy. You don't have to clean up the mess he made here, you don't have to see and touch and sew up this little girl's body and put her head back on to make the body presentable to the family, you don't have to sit down with the father face-to-face the way law enforcement officers do in order to get a description of events from him, you don't have to go out and notify the family members that she's dead and what was done to her, you don't have to deal with their emotional trauma... and beyond that, none of this happened to you. It wasn't your child that was murdered, your life wasn't personally affected at all, you're not related to any of these people or are a friend of theirs, etc. You're sheltered is all. And people wonder why cops, servicemen, medical professionals, etc. feel differently. It's because they know better. They're [i]not[/i] sheltered. They know all the nitty-gritty details, they know what these kinds of people really are, and they know how dangerous these people are and why we'd all be better off without them. It's easy to preach about rehabilitation and all that bullshit after something abhorrent like this happens when you don't actually have any obligations on your end to be a part of the process/when you weren't personally affected or inconvenienced by it in any way. Ridiculous.[/QUOTE] you guys are talking about high-horsing in the fucking justice system? it literally only exists because we have the capacity to pass judgement on others from an impartial, some would say [I]higher[/I], point of authority. the only reason we even have trials, judges, juries, rights, lawyers, is because we prefer high-horsing to mob rule. putting right and wrong and ethics and practicality above personal involvement is how any of this shit gets done, but you turn against that idea the moment it involves you.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50031722]I could say the same thing about keeping the guy alive. You'd forget about him next week.[/QUOTE] I'm sure that there are people that care about him that wouldn't forget in a week. And he'd still be alive which matters to him.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50033636]I would be willing to agree with you if you could explain what this rehabilitation is.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what you mean here. There's nothing magic about rehabilitation. [QUOTE=wauterboi;50033636]I would love to be against the death penalty. It's just that no one has made a case against it.[/QUOTE] You haven't heard a convincing argument? I'm not sure if I can convince you as this is something that's been debated for a long long time. If you haven't looked there's plenty of arguments against the death penalty. My best reason is that I believe people deserve another chance. (which is usually countered with horrific cases like the OP but I don't make exceptions.) It's not something I've thought that much about though. It's just something I've always felt is right and I brought up those statistics just to point out that wanting death penalty is clearly not something that's naturally ingrained in us.

I honestly haven't. There are some anti-death advocates I've met in real life that resort to presenting principles as objective, i.e. all life is equal, all life deserves a second chance, etc. Stuff that isn't objective, but is presented as if it is. Why does everyone deserve a second chance? Again, I'm asking honestly as someone that is interested and isn't trying to shoot you down.

Back on the topic... The guy is nuts, according to TVBS/other Taiwanese TV news reports when he was questioned he said he was an Emperor of Szechuan and the girl was "from Szechuan", and that he wanted someone to continue the family line. Also he got beat up by inmates in prison, and pretty much everyone is rooting for him to get the death penalty (Leave out your yankee ethnics and values discussion about death penalties bla bla bla please, this is Asia not the West)

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50042659]Stuff that isn't objective[/QUOTE] I believe this is a moral issue and I don't think morality is objective. What's your view on subjective and objective morality? [QUOTE=wauterboi;50042659]Oh, forgot. My brother is a soldier. By American definition, he is a paid killer. By the definition of the countries he will be asked to invade, he's a murderer.[/QUOTE] Let's just be clear that I view self defense (country's self defense in this case) and death penalty as different things. If you try to stop a criminal and he tries to shoot you I believe you should be able to defend yourself even though it would be nice if the criminal could be caught alive. Death penalty is the government deciding whether someone should be alive after they've been caught. [QUOTE=wauterboi;50042659]Why does everyone deserve a second chance?[/QUOTE] When I brought up rehabilitation I meant that a criminal go in as someone who is a danger to society and finally comes out as someone who is not. Hopefully. This isn't perfect but I believe it's better than the infinite punishment of taking someones life. This is why I think they deserve a second chance. It may be easier said than done. In Norway we are just 5 million people and the crime rates here are very low compared to the US. I'm not sure what the solution should be but I still think the prison system that's in the US is wrong. [QUOTE=wauterboi;50042659]Again, I'm asking honestly as someone that is interested and isn't trying to shoot you down.[/QUOTE] Yeah even though I haven't really participated in many arguments here on FP I've seen the general theme is just shooting people down. I've started going other places where people tend to be less like that. I really respect people like you who try to have a discourse without resorting to all of that. With that being said I haven't really thought that much about capital punishment and I've had to look many things up as I wrote this post.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50042659]I honestly haven't. There are some anti-death advocates I've met in real life that resort to presenting principles as objective, i.e. all life is equal, all life deserves a second chance, etc. Stuff that isn't objective, but is presented as if it is. Why does everyone deserve a second chance? Again, I'm asking honestly as someone that is interested and isn't trying to shoot you down.[/QUOTE] The issue with the death penalty is that it is an absolute punishment. People on death row have been acquitted before, some [I]posthumously.[/I] That's fucked.

[QUOTE=phygon;50046224]The issue with the death penalty is that it is an absolute punishment. People on death row have been acquitted before, some [I]posthumously.[/I] That's fucked.[/QUOTE] That is exactly what I was thinking. People make mistakes. Even long and complex court procedures with large juries and experienced judges lead to mistakes at times. The death penalty however is pretty fucking final. Mob rule and vigilante justice is not to be trusted, as there are many examples of people downright murdering an innocent person, that was only suspected of the crime, and later proven to be innocent. I would only be convinced of the death penalty being correct to apply, if an especially serious crime could be proven without a doubt. The only point of executing an individual, would be if the person presented such a huge danger to society and humanity as a whole, that letting them live would be too risky. I do not think such beings exist in the real world, but are rather products of fiction. I have even heard that executions in the US cost the state more than a lifetime prisoner, probably because of the amount of forced labor involved, so it's not even a financially viable option, even if the person would never be allowed to be free again. There are also many more examples throughout hstory of states misusing the death penalty to kill off political dissenters than serious criminals convicted of actual crimes.

[QUOTE=phygon;50046224]The issue with the death penalty is that it is an absolute punishment. People on death row have been acquitted before, some [I]posthumously.[/I] That's fucked.[/QUOTE] Right, and these are the reasons why I don't support the death penalty. I guess what I'm really caught up on is why I share the same stance with a different way of reaching that conclusion. I want to know why others value life in the specific way that they do. [editline]1st April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=CapsAdmin;50045989]I believe this is a moral issue and I don't think morality is objective. What's your view on subjective and objective morality?[/quote] Morality and authority are weird. US authority basically came from destroying the population of the Native Americans and arbitrarily saying "mine". And from there, morality was derived mainly of Christianity. Our entire framework for monogamous relationships and traditions. There's a ton of stuff that we do and look up to that is completely arbitrary. That's not to say that they shouldn't exist or things shouldn't be that way for every instance, but they need to be argued with a much more defined reason based a little more heavily on objectivity.[/quote] [QUOTE=CapsAdmin;50045989]Let's just be clear that I view self defense (country's self defense in this case) and death penalty as different things. If you try to stop a criminal and he tries to shoot you I believe you should be able to defend yourself even though it would be nice if the criminal could be caught alive. Death penalty is the government deciding whether someone should be alive after they've been caught.[/quote] I'm suggesting that we view my brother's imminent taking of lives as moral and what makes him a role model. And it will remain that way until we lose a war, where it will then be referred to as heinous murder. [QUOTE=CapsAdmin;50045989]When I brought up rehabilitation I meant that a criminal go in as someone who is a danger to society and finally comes out as someone who is not. Hopefully. This isn't perfect but I believe it's better than the infinite punishment of taking someones life. This is why I think they deserve a second chance. It may be easier said than done. In Norway we are just 5 million people and the crime rates here are very low compared to the US. I'm not sure what the solution should be but I still think the prison system that's in the US is wrong.[/quote] That's a nice dream - I'd love for that. But I don't believe it would work. I'd want for him to be a psychological lab rat so we can advance towards that dream, but we're not there and the legal system is against us (at least in the US).

hello, guys. just wanted to update a bit of what's been happening here after this random beheading tragedy. [quote][img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20160329/640_1750ed10865e38c3503e193564e0c0d6.jpg[/img] Picture of the mother of the 4 years old girl and her father in the crime scene where it happened [img]http://pic.ctitv.com/wpimg/2016/03/20111.jpg[/img] Picture of the murderer. (He got beaten up by other inmates as soon as he got in the temporary jail, even gangs are now threatening to kill him) [img]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20160328/640_ae6024f4a4712ff78f228691532f1c95.jpg[/img] Picture of the little girl's grandpa crying beside her dead body [/quote] After Wang Jin Tu (The murderer) killed the 4 year old girl he said a lot of weird random shit when the cops asked him why he did that, so people are suspecting that he might be into some weird cult groups. After the beheading, more and more copy cats start freaking out and a lot of random stabbings keep happening the past few days, imitating Wang [quote]A police officer got his head sliced by another crazy fuck in the MRT station, not long after the tragedy [img]http://img1.cna.com.tw/www/WebPhotos/800/20160329/2749793.jpg[/img][/quote] [quote]another 12 year old girl got her neck cut by her mother's ex boyfriend (she was sent to hospital after that but the man is still on loose) [img]http://pgw.udn.com.tw/gw/photo.php?u=http://uc.udn.com.tw/photo/2016/03/31/99/1990904.jpg&sl=W&fw=750&exp=3600[/img] (cops in front of the house of the girl whose neck got cut by her mother's ex boyfriend) (After that 300+ angered civilians gathered in front of the local police station demanding them to "hand out" the man who cut the girl's neck so they could beat him up (but the man's still on loose)[/quote] and more and more crazy people start showing up on streets with knife, scaring people. yesterday this happened [url]https://www.facebook.com/udnplus/videos/619712188181559[/url] (The old woman had a knife in her hand, don't think she was as serious as other copy cats but more and more people are starting to disrupt the social orders with knives, like you can see crazy people waving knives around on streets) these random stabbings and attacks all started from a few years ago's MRT massacre where a college student stabbed and killed 4 and injured another 20+ people on the MRT. people's lives are hard and more and more people are just randomly freaking out and losing their shit, everyone's like a time bomb [quote][t]http://twimg.edgesuite.net/images/ReNews/20160401/640_ba02655f38057ea5781502e7e2b70ac3.jpg[/t] [t]http://img1.cna.com.tw/www/WebPhotos/800/20160330/28376283.jpg[/t] [t]http://img1.cna.com.tw/www/WebPhotos/800/20160330/40766880.jpg[/t][/quote] you can see the mother's facebook post saying how alive the kid was, jumping up and down, telling her mom how beautiful the sun was that morning. it hurts to know that the "life sentence" here means you can bail jail after less than like 25 years, and you get to have food and don't need to worry about being jobless or any other problems anymore (which is why so many crazy people started trying to get themselves in jail) and the judges all try not to give the murder suspects death sentences (Even the man who stabbed and killed 4 and injuring 20+ others a few years back didn't get death sentence)

[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;50047708]hello, guys. just wanted to update a bit of what's been happening here after this random beheading tragedy. After Wang Jin Tu (The murderer) killed the 4 year old girl he said a lot of weird random shit when the cops asked him why he did that, so people are suspecting that he might be into some weird cult groups. After the beheading, more and more crazy people start freaking out and a lot of random stabbings keep happening the past few days, imitating Wang and more and more crazy people start showing up on streets with knife, scaring people. yesterday this happened [url]https://www.facebook.com/udnplus/videos/619712188181559[/url] these random stabbings and attacks all started from a few years ago's MRT massacre where a college student stabbed and killed 4 and injured another 20+ people on the MRT. people's lives are hard and more and more people are just randomly freaking out and losing their shit, everyone's like a time bomb you can see the mother's facebook post saying how alive the kid was, jumping up and down, telling her mom how beautiful the sun was that morning.[/QUOTE] Am I right in understanding theres been a series of copy cat attacks? Are the attackers affiliated with the murderer or are they just copying? stay safe

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50047721]Am I right in understanding theres been a series of copy cat attacks? Are the attackers affiliated with the murderer or are they just copying? stay safe[/QUOTE] A bunch of copy cats, more and more suspects are copying Wang and attacking pedestrians or targeting police officers randomly on streets with knives