Nightclub in Germany bans refugees for 'harassing women' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49108155]Are you seriously trying to deny/down play the fact that immigrants make up a ridiculously high percentage of sex offenders in Sweden compared to their population? Also they stopped funding studies because they didn't want to be seen as encouraging racism. Their media doesn't even identify offenders by ethnicity in Sweden they're that "politically correct". [url]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape[/url][/QUOTE] chill out, i asked for better statistics and where he got his 70% from. if there aren't any statistics that don't have that 70% maybe you shouldn't just throw it out there and instead say "there aren't any reliable statistics on this"

[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49104276]They get free shit, and you know what they say about feeding the zoo animals. Germany is screwed. It's falling like Rome did to the Germanic tribes, most ironically. They take, and take, whilst the country suffers their burden.[/QUOTE] man you're right, refugees just take and take [URL]http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/future-development/posts/2015/09/16-economic-impact-refugees-cali[/URL] [URL]http://www.voanews.com/content/refugees-could-boost-european-economies/3010008.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/analysts-refugees-may-end-boosting-european-economies-317682[/URL] [URL]http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html[/URL] [URL]http://fortune.com/2015/09/08/germany-migrant-crisis/[/URL] weird how there's so many articles about how the refugees will actually improve the economies of european countries because they substitute an aging workforce? [URL]https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730383-800-why-welcoming-more-refugees-makes-economic-sense-for-europe/[/URL] [URL]http://phys.org/news/2014-06-refugees-boost-economy-countries.html[/URL] feel free to make arguments about the morals or crime-rates or whatever, but if you're going to make economic arguments you better pack some fucking sources before claiming that the refugees (or was that barbarians?) are going to steal all your jobs and welfare you also better not be living the NEET life or you're economically more of a parasite than a refugee also you're absolutely nuts

[QUOTE=darth-veger;49107953]Not against all Muslims but the whole uproar didn't exist before they moved into my hometown, the western culture and their own is quite different.[/QUOTE] Western and Muslim values are quite different and sometimes Muslim youth choose to renounce both instead of choosing between one or the other.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49108307]man you're right, refugees just take and take [URL]http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/future-development/posts/2015/09/16-economic-impact-refugees-cali[/URL] [URL]http://www.voanews.com/content/refugees-could-boost-european-economies/3010008.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/analysts-refugees-may-end-boosting-european-economies-317682[/URL] [URL]http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html[/URL] [URL]http://fortune.com/2015/09/08/germany-migrant-crisis/[/URL] weird how there's so many articles about how the refugees will actually improve the economies of european countries because they substitute an aging workforce? [URL]https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730383-800-why-welcoming-more-refugees-makes-economic-sense-for-europe/[/URL] [URL]http://phys.org/news/2014-06-refugees-boost-economy-countries.html[/URL] feel free to make arguments about the morals or crime-rates or whatever, but if you're going to make economic arguments you better pack some fucking sources before claiming that the refugees (or was that barbarians?) are going to steal all your jobs and welfare you also better not be living the NEET life or you're economically more of a parasite than a refugee also you're absolutely nuts[/QUOTE] There are around 22 million unemployed people in Europe, only good thing about adding 1-1.5 million more in the next few years is that companies can pay unskilled workers even less. [img]http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/2/24/Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png/525px-Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png[/img]

The whole, "it will benefit the economy" reasoning does not equate to "it will benefit the average German." With the way wealth distribution in heading around the world, the people who benefit most will likely never have to be exposed to the actual refugees and immigrants and the issues that result.

[QUOTE=Ajacks;49108474]The whole, "it will benefit the economy" reasoning does not equate to "it will benefit the average German." With the way wealth distribution in heading around the world, the people who benefit most will likely never have to be exposed to the actual refugees and immigrants and the issues that result.[/QUOTE] Indeed. The bourgeois liberals (in George Carlin's words) will do everything for refugees in government but never actually live around them, and they will sell their self-righteous ideas to ruling interests as promoting a better labor market. Ultimately the working class, native or foreign, suffers. They will pretty much force this kind of neoliberalism down your throat and drag you into the 'future', because you're being backwards if you care about your class or nation. Anything depicted as anti-globalization, nationalist, racist, or otherwise not modern liberal dogma will be thrown to the wayside in favor of the totality of liberal ideas in all spheres of society, in the name of progress. It's terribly ironic considering that's supposed to be what distinguishes liberalism from other ideologies.

I just had a thought. In the Koran when across a woman, they are instructed to "lower their gaze" Also wouldn't it be harem to visit night clubs and the like? Its not intolerance if you are enforcing their rules upon them. It would be doing them a favor.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;49108457]There are around 22 million unemployed people in Europe, only good thing about adding 1-1.5 million more in the next few years is that companies can pay unskilled workers even less. [img]http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/2/24/Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png/525px-Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png[/img][/QUOTE] 2 million Syrians in Turkey (population 80 million). A lot of Turks and Kurds lost their jobs because labor companies prefer to employ Syrians illegally and the government does nothing about this. Regulations are a myth beyond Ankara. [editline]13th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49108606]I just had a thought. In the Koran when across a woman, they are instructed to "lower their gaze" Also wouldn't it be harem to visit night clubs and the like?[/QUOTE] Religion won't be enough to suppress a male's strongest evolutional instinct.

[QUOTE=kurva;49108748]2 million Syrians in Turkey (population 80 million). A lot of Turks and Kurds lost their jobs because labor companies prefer to employ Syrians illegally and the government does nothing about this. Regulations are a myth beyond Ankara. [editline]13th November 2015[/editline] Religion won't be enough to suppress a male's strongest evolutional instinct.[/QUOTE] Not the point. The point is to have an excuse to bar them entry without looking like a dick. If their morality forbids them from doing so, and its based on the idea "If they do what is forbidden, they will go to hell" then you doing them a favor.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;49108457]There are around 22 million unemployed people in Europe, only good thing about adding 1-1.5 million more in the next few years is that companies can pay unskilled workers even less. [img]http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/2/24/Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png/525px-Unemployment_rates%2C_seasonally_adjusted%2C_September_2015.png[/img][/QUOTE] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/10/us-europe-migrants-germany-training-anal-idUSKCN0RA1E920150910[/url] except that migrants are seen as an opportunity for skilled labour in a country which has an aging population can I see a non-biased source for the claims that the refugee crisis will have a significant negative economic impact in the long term

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49109074][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/10/us-europe-migrants-germany-training-anal-idUSKCN0RA1E920150910[/url] except that migrants are seen as an opportunity for skilled labour in a country which has an aging population can I see a non-biased source for the claims that the refugee crisis will have a significant negative economic impact in the long term[/QUOTE] Most of your articles mention "skilled labor" then go on to talk about hair dressers, kitchen helpers and parquet recliners who don't mind working for a minimum wage, compared to local population , basically confirming what I said.

[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;49102399]IKR, how dare they do recreational things and try to regain some normality in their life! [I][B]Real[/B][/I] """refugees""" don't need none of that, they must be faking it![/QUOTE] Well, their religion prohibits them from premarital sex or consuming alcohol, so....

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49109074][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/10/us-europe-migrants-germany-training-anal-idUSKCN0RA1E920150910[/url] except that migrants are seen as an opportunity for skilled labour in a country which has an aging population can I see a non-biased source for the claims that the refugee crisis will have a significant negative economic impact in the long term[/QUOTE] Mind you, that the article is only talking about Germany. Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, the next country over: [IMG]http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/CBSsomalie.jpg[/IMG] Source: [url]http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/arbeid-sociale-zekerheid/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2015/zeven-van-de-tien-somaliers-in-de-bijstand.htm[/url] (CBS, Official Dutch source statistics agency) This table shows the percentage of nationalities that are officially jobless in the Netherlands, and thus are on welfare for it. The Polish minority is the smallest group on welfare, with only 2 percent of them being on welfare. The Dutch themselves are on 3 percent. Meanwhile Somalians have a staggering percentage of 69 percent on welfare, followed by the Syrians with 62 percent. This was also at the end of 2014, so expect the percentage for especially Syria and Eritrea to rise even more by the end of 2015. [QUOTE=CBS]Bijna zeven van de tien volwassen Somaliërs in Nederland hebben een bijstandsuitkering. Ook ruim de helft van de mensen met de Syrische, Iraakse of Eritrese nationaliteit heeft bijstand. Het gaat vooral om voormalige asielzoekers. Dat meldt CBS op basis van onderzoek naar bijstandsuitkeringen op basis van nationaliteit. [...] Asielzoekers De grootste groep Somaliërs, Irakezen, Syriërs, Afghanen, Iraniërs en Eritreërs betreft voormalige asielzoekers die relatief vaak in de bijstand zitten. Hun afstand tot de Nederlandse arbeidsmarkt is relatief groot, gezien het percentage dat de taal niet (voldoende) machtig is en het relatief grote aandeel dat geen, een lage of een niet-aansluitende opleiding heeft. Ook speelt de aanleiding voor hun vlucht naar Nederland een rol, zoals de effecten van een oorlog of vervolging in eigen land. Vorig jaar kwamen de meeste asielzoekers overigens uit Syrië: 8750, in omvang gevolgd door Eritreërs (3835) en Irakezen (615). [/QUOTE] Roughly translated, the text for the table tells us the following: --- Almost seven out of ten mature Somalians in the Netherlands are on welfare. Also more than half of the Syrian, Iraqi and Eritrean population in the Netherlands is on welfare. It primarily consists of former asylum seekers. This is said by the CBS on the basis of a research of welfare handouts based by nationality. Asylum Seekers The biggest part of Somalians, Iraqi, Syrians, Afghans, Iranians and Eritreans consists of former asylum seekers who are relatively often on welfare. Their distance to the Dutch job market is relatively large, as a major percentage of them don't speak the Dutch language or not efficiently enough, and also a major percentage not having any sort of qualification, are too lowly-qualified or don't have legit qualifications. This could also be attributed to their flight to the Netherlands, due to reasons such as war or persecution. (Note: This rings especially true through to the Syrian Christian minority in the Netherlands, who primarily came here before the Syrian Civil War) Last year (2014) had the most asylum seekers coming in from Syria, 8750, followed by Eritrea, 3835 and Iraq, 615. --- This year, the amount of asylum seekers that came to the Netherlands is more than 40000 already. So yeah, expect a very steep rise in most of those statistics. They are not going to be an economical gain for a very long while if they don't integrate correctly. Speaking of the constant pushing from politicians about migrants being apparently good for the economy, if we need skilled labor in countries with a aging population, why don't we give the Greeks and the Spaniards the opportunity to do it? Last time I checked, they have also massive amounts of jobless people, especially under the skilled and qualified youth. And they probably adapt easier too to the local customs due to not having such a large culture gap compared to the others. I thought the EU was supposed to help other European countries too, right?

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49108307]man you're right, refugees just take and take [URL]http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/future-development/posts/2015/09/16-economic-impact-refugees-cali[/URL] [URL]http://www.voanews.com/content/refugees-could-boost-european-economies/3010008.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/euro-finance/analysts-refugees-may-end-boosting-european-economies-317682[/URL] [URL]http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugees-are-an-opportunity-for-the-german-economy-a-1050102.html[/URL] [URL]http://fortune.com/2015/09/08/germany-migrant-crisis/[/URL] weird how there's so many articles about how the refugees will actually improve the economies of european countries because they substitute an aging workforce? [URL]https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730383-800-why-welcoming-more-refugees-makes-economic-sense-for-europe/[/URL] [URL]http://phys.org/news/2014-06-refugees-boost-economy-countries.html[/URL] feel free to make arguments about the morals or crime-rates or whatever, but if you're going to make economic arguments you better pack some fucking sources before claiming that the refugees (or was that barbarians?) are going to steal all your jobs and welfare you also better not be living the NEET life or you're economically more of a parasite than a refugee also you're absolutely nuts[/QUOTE] So you admit you only care about big business taking jobs away from needy citizens, and only want their positions filled with foreigners? How screwed up is that?

[QUOTE=DrogenViech;49102655] can someone please blow some shit up or something so they will finally talk about something else[/QUOTE] yikes

[QUOTE=cricket50;49118631]yikes[/QUOTE] DrogenViech confirmed to be ISIS member

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49102891]You and I both know that's never going to happen. This is just something Europe needs to accept is going to happen, did you guys honestly expect it was going to be sunshine and rainbows?[/QUOTE] The people expected it. The government did it to stop the incoming pay issues for the welfare system they set up. Its me being cynical, but the European nations did this only to fluff up their stagnating numbers. It just so happens to be a humanitarian decision at the same time.

[QUOTE=DrogenViech;49102655]refugee shit, now even on facepunch? we have to endure this crap every time on tv and on the radio refugees, refugees, refugees, i can't stand it anymore, can someone please blow some shit up or something so they will finally talk about something else[/QUOTE] Well the refugees killed a lot of people, so you sort of got what you want.

[QUOTE=DohEntertainmen;49104623]Not all of them are honest hearts, either. There's this thing we have in most western civilizations called a bureaucracy, and if it is only used to coerce the native populations, there will be blood.[/QUOTE] what do you mean by there will be blood?

What annoys me about the situation the most is that most of the refugees who fled are at the kind of age where they should be fighting to defend their homes rather then fleeing, I mean, look back at WW2 & WW1 and other wars where people were people got conscripted. The fact that they all just run away rather then fighting for their own country is exactly the thing that is allowing ISIS and other groups to expand so fast as they have little resistance. Then they come over here and get free housing and food when we have homeless people in the streets who get offered absolutely nothing in comparison, some of them ex-military veterans too. Its. Just. Not. Right.

[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;49120637]What annoys me about the situation the most is that most of the refugees who fled are at the kind of age where they should be fighting to defend their homes rather then fleeing, I mean, look back at WW2 & WW1 and other wars where people were people got conscripted. The fact that they all just run away rather then fighting for their own country is exactly the thing that is allowing ISIS and other groups to expand so fast as they have little resistance. Then they come over here and get free housing and food when we have homeless people in the streets who get offered absolutely nothing in comparison, some of them ex-military veterans too. Its. Just. Not. Right.[/QUOTE] You're sitting in a comfortable home in the UK telling other people they should put their lives at risk. Do you think preserving Assad's Syria is something they would even want to die for? Obviously not, because they're all fleeing. Also, do you think all of the people in WW1 & 2 that got conscripted wanted to fight?

I wouldn't blame people for not wanting to fight. If they're near a war, they have every right to run away and seek refuge in another country. But where are their families? It's just young men.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;49120939]I wouldn't blame people for not wanting to fight. If they're near a war, they have every right to run away and seek refuge in another country. But where are their families? It's just young men.[/QUOTE] Are there any actual statistics that show that most of the refugees are men? I keep hearing this, but then I also heard from a person who followed the path the refugees take through Europe that they actually aren't mostly men.

[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;49120950]Are there any actual statistics that show that most of the refugees are men? I keep hearing this, but then I also heard from a person who followed the path the refugees take through Europe that they actually aren't mostly men.[/QUOTE] [img]http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/images/thumb/b/b6/Share_of_male_%28non-EU%29_asylum_applicants_in_the_EU-28%2C_by_age_group_and_status_of_minors%2C_2014_%28%25%29_YB15_III.png/800px-Share_of_male_%28non-EU%29_asylum_applicants_in_the_EU-28%2C_by_age_group_and_status_of_minors%2C_2014_%28%25%29_YB15_III.png[/img]

[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;49120950]Are there any actual statistics that show that most of the refugees are men? I keep hearing this, but then I also heard from a person who followed the path the refugees take through Europe that they actually aren't mostly men.[/QUOTE] UNHCR says that the [URL="http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php"]registered refugees[/URL] (those that are seeking asylum in Europe but have not yet left) are 50-50 male and female. These people are not yet in Europe (excluding Turkey). UNHCR says in terms of [URL="http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php"]maritime arrivals [/URL]of refugees that 65% of people are grown men (not just male). In terms of those walking across the borders, it's hard to find. But when you watch the videos of what is going on, and anecdotally from those nearby, it appears to be mostly men.

The refugees are feigning cultural ignorance to act perverted and immoral, y'know: [I]"me no speak english"/"in my country..."[/I] - the classic gag to try and get away with as much as you can while appearing simply stupid. These people have been brought up in largely fascistic states that teach them that the west is corrupt, that it's women are degenerate and enjoy being whores. Many states in the middle east teach it's citizens from a young age that non-muslims are inferior, that they ought to be treated like cattle; regardless of what the actual Qu'ran may or may not say, it really comes down to simple bog-standard racism from 2-3rd world nations that don't emphasize much on open education [I](or much freedom for that matter)[/I]. Despite the mistreatment of women in their own world regarding rights, you don't often find them trying to pay for sex, or attempting to molest their own women or [B]drinking alcohol in nightclubs[/B]. But when you're taught that the west are animals it should not come as a surprise this is going to happen, reap what you sow. You're going to have spend years trying to reeducate these people, but these attempts of westernizing muslims in the past is what has caused such radical backlash to grow in the first place. You're not dealing with just people here but two opposing ideologies that simply won't go away with western snobbery method that they'll simply [I]"adapt"[/I] to superior customs; many muslims leaning to the right consider westernization colonialism.

[QUOTE=Vasili;49121058]The refugees are feigning cultural ignorance to act perverted and immoral, y'know: [I]"me no speak english"/"in my country..."[/I] - the classic gag to try and get away with as much as you can while appearing simply stupid. These people have been brought up in largely fascistic states that teach them that the west is corrupt, that it's women are degenerate and enjoy being whores. Many states in the middle east teach it's citizens from a young age that non-muslims are inferior, that they ought to be treated like cattle; regardless of what the actual Qu'ran may or may not say, it really comes down to simple bog-standard racism from 2-3rd world nations that don't emphasize much on open education [I](or much freedom for that matter)[/I]. Despite the mistreatment of women in their own world regarding rights, you don't often find them trying to pay for sex, or attempting to molest their own women or [B]drinking alcohol in nightclubs[/B]. But when you're taught that the west are animals it should not come as a surprise this is going to happen, reap what you sow. You're going to have spend years trying to reeducate these people, but these attempts of westernizing muslims in the past is what has caused such radical backlash to grow in the first place. You're not dealing with just people here but two opposing ideologies that simply won't go away with western snobbery method that they'll simply [I]"adapt"[/I] to superior customs; many muslims leaning to the right consider westernization colonialism.[/QUOTE] Dont worry Tovarisch Vasili. I will for once will go to Germany, I will lead the new fight to bring the Voltaire and Diderot book all the inmigrant communities that live in Europe. Whether they like it or not, they shall be illustrated. And as I am Argentine, nobody will call me a Nazi. And as I am atheist, nobody will call me a Crusader or that kind of bullshit. I'm the man for the job. You'll have to wait like 20 years though. I dont know if I'll make in time. But, just, hold on!

[QUOTE=DrogenViech;49102655]refugee shit, now even on facepunch? we have to endure this crap every time on tv and on the radio refugees, refugees, refugees, i can't stand it anymore, can someone please blow some shit up or something so they will finally talk about something else[/QUOTE] Shit, found the terrorist!

[QUOTE=DrogenViech;49102655]refugee shit, now even on facepunch? we have to endure this crap every time on tv and on the radio refugees, refugees, refugees, i can't stand it anymore, can someone please blow some shit up or something so they will finally talk about something else[/QUOTE] I just realised how harrowing this comment is LOL

[QUOTE=Antlerp;49118642]DrogenViech confirmed to be ISIS member[/QUOTE] -ninja-