Clarkson given final warning from BBC - one more offensive remark anywhere, any time, and he's gone
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[QUOTE=Greetings;44712345][url]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem[/url]
Your fallacious arguments mean nothing to me.[/QUOTE]
we can use dictionaries as well
Greetings is a troll.
Report, ignore and move on.
Jeremy is on a real hot spot all the time, its like there is a group of dedicated anti-clarkson people out there scanning and rampaging through all his recorded clips and whatnot just to spot something racist or offensive.
Clarkson says these things on a extremely super mega ultra sarcastic or unserious tone, there are dozens of british TV celebrities who have made racist jokes before but oh don't mind them they are comedians and Clarkson isn't, he is a super serious host on a super serious car show.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712345][url]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem[/url]
Your fallacious arguments mean nothing to me.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, I have also visited that site.
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That would also imply I haven't realised you're bigoted to the point where attempting to reason with you would be a waste of my time.
[QUOTE=Kiets;44712352]Racism should not be tolerable, it's funny how many people defend him because he's famous[/QUOTE]
Yes, he's totally racist...
Oh wait, isn't Lewis Hamilton black? And he's a big friend of him aswell... Weird!
[QUOTE=Kiets;44712352]Racism should not be tolerable, it's funny how many people defend him because he's famous[/QUOTE]
he didnt even say anything racist though holy jesus. Did you make an account just to spout bullshit
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;44712191]Why do we listen to people with no humor. "I'm offended", good for you now get out. Sure he can try and not say something offensive but shit happens and there are people out there with no sense of humor and didn't he say something offensive in an outtake the last time? An outtake for fucks sake. It wasn't even in the show. BBC are idiots if they fire him.
[editline]3rd May 2014[/editline]
This. This exactly. Every year around Christmas Swedes try and ban Pepparkaksgubbar, gingerbreadmen that kids like to dress up as.
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Why? Because they are brown and brown people might be offended by that. What? I'm brown, how in the world am I supposed to be offended by a brown outfit. It's more offensive to think that Swedes think I look like that and might be offended because of the resemblance. :v:[/QUOTE]
This is the same country that serves negerbollar and people are offended by gingerbread costumes?
It's funny how using racial slurs in non-offensive way is deemed racist. Do people even know the definition of racism anymore?
Trying to abolish racism is impossible when such oversensitivity continues to exist. It's beyond retarded.
If they can Clarkson:
- BBC will lose a lot of views on one of their top programs.
- Clarkson will be picked up probably almost instantly somewhere else.
- That channel is going to make a lot of money from advertisers.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44712220]But Clarkson isn't from America so even if he DID say something racist (which he didn't by the way, but you won't listen), it wouldn't be in reference to "African Americans", because they [I][B][U]WOULDN'T BE FROM AMERICA.[/U][/B][/I]
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Clearly Africa doesn't exist in his mind, blacks originated in the Americas.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44711919]Sometimes I think I am the only true liberal on this forum. He can clearly be heard saying a derogatory term towards African-Americans (or "black" people, if you prefer, though I find this to be incredibly racist). The year is 2014, though I'm sure you racists have no idea because you all act as if its the 1950s where this kind of shit is acceptable. Bigots have no place in modern society and good on BBC for cracking down on this. I hope his show is cancelled and he is fined millions of dollars, to be donated directly to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who will use it for legitimate anti-racist causes.[/QUOTE]
African-American‽‽‽ You disgusting racist bigot, everyone knows the term is 'Basketball-American'
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;44711332]He was going overboard with the racism so I agree with this to be honest.
Being Jeremy Clarkson shouldn't give you free reign to be a racist asshole.[/QUOTE]
Or why don't people ignore things they don't like
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712209]
No, because white people haven't been discriminated against. African-Americans are still suffering the effects from 300 years of oppression, and it still goes on and on due to bigots like Clarkson and members of this forum.[/QUOTE]
Do you not know anything about history? Specific groups of white people have certaintly felt discrimination.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712209]African-Americans are still suffering the effects from 300 years of oppression, and it still goes on and on due to bigots like Clarkson and members of this forum.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone who is black is African-American. If you don't know what race the person actually is what options do you have but to call him black? Person of a darker hue?
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;44712729]Or why don't people IGNORE things they don't like[/QUOTE]
I don't think Clarkson said anything racist (as far as I know, mumbling "nnnnhhhhgg" doesn't offend anyone) but if we just ignored racism society would never progress
What kind of sensitive people is that, its just "nigger", its just stupid mumbling, the word doesn't fit in any racial fight or any fight at all of any kind, because its just a fuckin song for kids to go around and play back in 189-.
hes not even singing the real version, which is:
"Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo,
Catch a nigger by his toe,
If he won't work then let him go;
Skidum, skidee, skidoo."
Can we all just agree that political correctness, religious sensitivity, and racial sensitivity are all terrible? Like I understand, ignoring racism or slandering holds us back but there's a clear difference between using an outdated term ( if he even actually said Nigger ) randomly and not even directed at anyone, and him going " okay folks lets murder all blacks and Muslims they're lesser than us whites ".
Firing Clarkson would be like shooting yourself on a foot with a god damn cannon.
Facepunch: Primarily young white males between the ages of 13-25 who aren't affected by racism, being outraged by the idea that someone who works for a government funded channel saying bigoted racial remarks might be fired for being racist.
Who woulda thunk it.
Also why are people standing by he didn't say these things? He's publicly apologised for this as well as the slope comment. He admitted to it.
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[QUOTE=capital;44712604]African-American‽‽‽ You disgusting racist bigot, everyone knows the term is 'Basketball-American'[/QUOTE]
Actually, there was a spell a few years back where on surveys and such they put 'Afro-American'.
This whole situation is stupid, BBC isn't going to can him and they know it, they're just taking the heat off of him.
[QUOTE=rhx123;44711418]Top gear would be dead without Clarkson, the Clarkson/May/Hammond trio is very good.[/QUOTE]
I don't think the other two would want to do the show without him.
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Also why are people standing by he didn't say these things? He's publicly apologised for this as well as the slope comment. He admitted to it.[/QUOTE]
damage control. similar to your parents apologising for your birth. and if they aren't doing that, they should be.
[QUOTE=ConArtist;44712878]damage control. similar to your parents apologising for your birth. and if they aren't doing that, they should be.[/QUOTE]
Wow dude.
[QUOTE=Glitchbunny;44712885]Wow dude.[/QUOTE]
wah someone said nigger let me be offended for a group of people even though I live on an island in the pacific where they killed all the aboriginals. I feel guilty!
and if killing most of them wasn't enough, let's get them addicted to gasoline fumes
[QUOTE=ConArtist;44712878]damage control. similar to your parents apologising for your birth. and if they aren't doing that, they should be.[/QUOTE]
He "admitted" to the Slopething, i'm assuming just to take flak off of him a bit and he said in the interview for the nigger comment that he didn't say it but he's apologizing anyway.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44712907]He "admitted" to the Slopething, i'm assuming just to take flak off of him a bit and he said in the interview for the nigger comment that he didn't say it but he's apologizing anyway.[/QUOTE]
Where did he admit to that? All I've seen was the producer saying he did it.
Anyway, BBC firing Jezza is like them sawing off their foot with a butter knife. It'll only hurt them, in the end.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712209]This forum is full of conservatives who think they are liberal but really aren't. If they were truly liberal they would be outraged by this and demand action be taken instead of reacting passive-aggressively.[/quote]
Do you even understand what Liberal means? Liberal and Conservative are hardly political parties, but rather political outtakes on certain issues and how you wish to go about them. In this issue, you are not a Liberal. You are a die hard conservative trying to retain apologist philosophies, not letting racism die out, and choose to make a constant issue out of something which has already been seen by the masses as bad. You are tearing open a wound that's already healing. Stop it.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712209]
No, because white people haven't been discriminated against.[/quote]
Bull fucking shit. My Polish ancestors were forced into ghettos in NYC, Albany, and Buffalo before rising up the social bars trying to make a living for themselves. They were constantly thrown the short-hand of things, insulted and mocked for being Polish(Pollock?), and forced to live in poverty like conditions for many years because they barely understood the English language.
You also refuse to acknowledge that several Irish, British, Norwegian, Swedes, and otherwise were slaves in the 1100's - 1850's. Slavery was not only African-Ameircans. Before you assume that, pick up a history book, and learn.
Even in the modern day, we still have people who are discriminated against simply for the region they came from or because of their way of life and social class. I don't hear you bitching about poverty-level "rednecks" or "hillbillys" or "wiggers" but somehow it doesn't matter. Because you know, only African-Americans can suffer from discrimination supposedly.
And you know what? That's why we have racism. Because people are upset for being thrown aside and being classed in the same boat as people who have tons of money and see us all as underclass slobs.
[QUOTE=Greetings;44712209]
African-Americans are still suffering the effects from 300 years of oppression, and it still goes on and on due to bigots like Clarkson and members of this forum.[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking serious? What about Native Americans? What about Mexicans? What about low-class Europeans? Everyone is suffering from some form of oppression or another, it's not a one race issue, and until we start treating it as such, racism will always exist. Right now you still have cities and towns that are separated into ethnic neighborhoods as a byproduct of segregation of 1870's - 1920's, and several people suffer dearly from it. But like I said before, I do not hear you bitching about that, it's only about one race who get's all the air time, while everyone else is shoved under the carpet.
Seriously, pick up a history book and learn. Stop reiterating whatever you hear on Tumbler or Twitter you ignorant bigot.
People are overreacting to these minor "racist" remarks, things like this are much worse: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15997820[/url]
If you take such things he has said into account and the amount of complaints that eventually followed ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15999234[/url]) you can understand why the BBC would want to take this kind of action.
[QUOTE=orgornot;44713031]People are overreacting to these minor "racist" remarks, things like this are much worse: [URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15997820[/URL]
If you take such things he has said into account and the amount of complaints that eventually followed ([URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15999234[/URL]) you can understand why the BBC would want to take this kind of action.[/QUOTE]
Clarkson's comment is more of a, "God fuck these idiots" type comment more than anything. People take things way to seriously.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44713058]Clarkson's comment is more of a, "God fuck these idiots" type comment more than anything. People take things way to seriously.[/QUOTE]
I don't really care if the guy stays or not, and I agree with you that he didn't actually mean to shoot them. But the guy has a habit of saying stupid remarks on and off the air, and then expecting his successful TV show to save him.
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