New information of Zimmerman's claims in Trayvon shooting. - Polidicks

well now i know a sure-fire way to get away with murder

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35307905]...really? The legs have one of the largest veins and arteries in your body. If you hit it, you're dead. Good job killing him anyways. Like I said, this isn't a fucking movie.[/QUOTE] Hitting the leg would have been a lot more painful as well.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35307995]Stop acting like a gun is a toy[/QUOTE] Explain/quote. Also your lungs and heart are in your chest, I think you'll have a higher chance of living if you get shot in an area without vital organs, such as the legs.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35306334]Did you read the op? It states there was a witness that saw Zimmerman being beaten on the ground . They have more evidence than a statement from Martins dad. Also is anyone else having trouble replying and editing post?[/QUOTE] I never denied that, all I did was point out they lied, and I do know that a witness testimony is the absolute worst type of evidence there is.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308071]Explain/quote.[/QUOTE] A gun isn't a toy. What more is there to explain?

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308071]Explain/quote.[/QUOTE] oh man i know how i, sitting in the comfort of my suburban home, would logically react in this heated situation. shoot him in the leg, thats a nonlethal shot, right?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;35308090]A gun isn't a toy. What more is there to explain?[/QUOTE] Asked him to quote where I said anything about a gun being a toy or being anything close to one. [QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35308108]oh man i know how i, sitting in the comfort of my suburban home, would logically react in this heated situation. shoot him in the leg, thats a nonlethal shot, right?[/QUOTE] Shooting someone in the leg is a less lethal place to shoot than the chest, where all your organs are nestled.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35306841]I'm pretty sure it's not the police's job to dig up his record. It's the prosecutor's job. It isn't relevant to the investigation. The thing that police need to be worried about are the facts of the case, not any past issues. Prosecutors get the job of painting Zimmerman as a crazed overzealous racist gunman who killed this kid in cold blood.[/QUOTE] [B][U][I]GEE.[/I][/U][/B] "HEY CHIEF. THIS GUY IS A MURDER SUSPECT, SHOULD WE CHECK TO SEE IF HE HAS BEEN CONVICTED FOR VIOLENT CRIMES IN THE PAST AND COULD BE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE COMMITED THE CRIME? " "NAH FORGET IT IT DOESN'T MATTER." You're a lunkhead.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308113]Asked him to quote where I said anything about a gun being a toy or being anything close to one.[/QUOTE] the point wasnt that you literally said a gun is a toy, its that what you said was uneducated and dumb as shit [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lanopo;35308113]Asked him to quote where I said anything about a gun being a toy or being anything close to one. Shooting someone in the leg is a less lethal place to shoot than the chest, where all your organs are nestled.[/QUOTE] yes but there's a high chance you'll nick the femoral artery. do you have any clue what happens when a major artery is ruptured?

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;35308138]the point wasnt that you literally said a gun is a toy, its that what you said was uneducated and dumb as shit[/QUOTE] [quote=Lanopo]Shooting someone in the leg is a less lethal place to shoot than the chest, where all your organs are nestled.[/quote] Yea I'm pretty stupid, right? Why don't you rate me dumb, that will prove that I possess low intelligence level won't it.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308113]Asked him to quote where I said anything about a gun being a toy or being anything close to one. Shooting someone in the leg is a less lethal place to shoot than the chest, where all your organs are nestled.[/QUOTE] Not exactly... Shooting someone in the leg has a higher chance of hitting an artery which in turn can/most likely will cause them to bleed out within a short period of time without medical attention.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;35308200]Not exactly... Shooting someone in the leg has a higher chance of hitting an artery which in turn can/most likely will cause them to bleed out within a short period of time without medical attention.[/QUOTE] What are the chances of hitting an artery? [img]http://www.vascularweb.org/vascularhealth/PublishingImages/NorthPoint%20Images/AortoOccl_02REV_Base_225.jpg[/img] Edit: This "Shoot him in the leg" argument I started has gone on long enough, I'm going to leave now for the sake of the thread.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35307963]Thanks for reminding me twice this isn't a movie.[/QUOTE] Ideally, a warning shot would be preferable. However, in a stressful or tense situation such an option conflicts with the desire of self-preservation. It's pretty easy to sit back in a chair and say that you would fire a warning shot.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35307963]Thanks for reminding me twice this isn't a movie.[/QUOTE] all of your posts are fucking terrible please stop

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35307861]Why not shoot him in the legs or something?[/QUOTE]That is a big legal no-no. If you can afford to use non-lethal shots (though shooting someone in the leg has the chance of hitting some really really major arteries, thus having the person bleed to death rather quickly), then that shows your life was not in immediate danger, thus no shot really ever needed to be fired. It is not legal in the US to shoot someone for any other reason other than self-defence in the face of a direct and imminent threat on your life.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308218]What are the chances of hitting that artery do you think?[/QUOTE] um pretty fucking high the leg isnt a very wide limb especially on a skinny kid, and the femoral artery is pretty large [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lanopo;35308179]Yea I'm pretty stupid, right? Why don't you rate me dumb, that will prove that I possess low intelligence level won't it.[/QUOTE] no see that's exactly what im not doing. i'm taking the time to explain how dumb you are. and so are a lot of people [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lanopo;35308218]What are the chances of hitting an artery? [img]http://www.vascularweb.org/vascularhealth/PublishingImages/NorthPoint%20Images/AortoOccl_02REV_Base_225.jpg[/img] Edit: This "Shoot him in the leg" argument I started has gone on long enough, I'm going to leave now for the sake of the thread.[/QUOTE] "i'm an idiot but instead of owning up to it imma duck out lol peace"

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35307905]...really? The legs have one of the largest veins and arteries in your body. If you hit it, you're dead.[/QUOTE] nooo That's not entirely true. [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] Like, if you hit the Femoral Artery towards the pelvis is the highest bleed spot, but it would take minutes. Enough time to put pressure on the wound. At the very least TRY. [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] Hell, if you hit it straight through, it'll constrict and you'll have more time. You'll lose the leg, but you'll stay alive.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35308346]nooo That's not entirely true. [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] Like, if you hit the Femoral Artery towards the pelvis is the highest bleed spot, but it would take minutes. Enough time to put pressure on the wound. At the very least TRY. [/QUOTE] Wouldn't you go into shock almost instantly, though?

Yeah, this is still definitely fishy. He had grass stains on his back and now its he was having his head slammed into the pavement? I still want them to give an account of how the shooting actually took place. He would have had to draw his gun and shoot.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35308474]Wouldn't you go into shock almost instantly, though?[/QUOTE] You'd need to go through the blood pecking process. You still have blood in other extremities. And that's just the start.

[URL="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/26/national/a142150D15.DTL"]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/26/national/a142150D15.DTL[/URL] [QUOTE]"The mother of slain Florida teenager Trayvon Martin has filed papers seeking to trademark two slogans based on his name." "The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office filings by Sybrina Fulton are for the sayings "I Am Trayvon" and "Justice For Trayvon." The applications were filed last week."[/QUOTE] Keep it classy Floridians.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35306022]Why would the police try and cover it up? AFAIK Zimmerman was just some rent a cop neighborhood watch guy. Police even told him not to follow Martin. The police's hands are clean in this, they don't need to protect Zimmerman.[/QUOTE] Under Florida law since Zimmerman was armed, he is not legally able to act as an security guard without a license from the state to do so.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;35308623]Under Florida law since Zimmerman was armed, he is not legally able to act as an security guard without a license from the state to do so.[/QUOTE] He's still a glorified rent-a-cop. The police have little reason to protect him.

[QUOTE=Lanopo;35308071]Explain/quote. Also your lungs and heart are in your chest, I think you'll have a higher chance of living if you get shot in an area without vital organs, such as the legs.[/QUOTE] Then you'd be wrong and I wouldn't care. Yes, that's where those things are. But what's in your legs? A MASSIVE vein? One that when severed can literally drain your body of blood in minutes? Oh, yeah, that can't be important

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35309066]Then you'd be wrong and I wouldn't care. Yes, that's where those things are. But what's in your legs? A MASSIVE vein? One that when severed can literally drain your body of blood in minutes? Oh, yeah, that can't be important[/QUOTE] Depends on the wound. And artery, not vein. Losing blood flow towards the heart isn't as vital as you have other sources of blood in the body. Moving away will kill you.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35309183]Depends on the wound. And artery, not vein. Losing blood flow towards the heart isn't as vital as you have other sources of blood in the body. Moving away will kill you.[/QUOTE] In most circumstances if the vein or artery gets nicked or full out shot, the average person will not know what to do to save their lives and unless they get immediate medical care, will most likely die. I'm not saying always, but just under most circumstances, a large volume of blood loss is lethal. [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;35308666]He's still a glorified rent-a-cop. The police have little reason to protect him.[/QUOTE] I don't know why they'd defend him. But still, looking at things, things don't seem to be adding up on the police's side either.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35309218]In most circumstances if the vein or artery gets nicked or full out shot, the average person will not know what to do to save their lives and unless they get immediate medical care, will most likely die. I'm not saying always, but just under most circumstances, a large volume of blood loss is lethal. [/QUOTE] well it's easy, take hand, cover wound. Or take towel/cloth/shirt whatever, and do the same thing. If you own a hand to shoot him, you can control the bleeding. It also depends on how much blood loss. Once Peking volume hits a significant portion of your liver, you're kinda fucked.

I'm not going to take any positions, but saying the the police are siding with Zimmerman is quite ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;35309373]I'm not going to take any positions, but saying the the police are siding with Zimmerman is quite ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Agreed, I feel that there still is a lack of information about this case to make proper judgement.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;35305873]Why would an A/B student that never had record of violent behavior and testified by his teachers to be good boy suddenly assault a dude just because he was reaching for his cellphone? By slamming his head against the sidewalk no less, how did the dude not get a concussion or not get knocked out by such force? Such bullshit, he got through all that pain and he got up to shoot Martin? This smells like the police trying to cover up shit to make them look less competent.[/QUOTE] Zimmerman clearly lied.