Lindsey Graham reveals 4,700 killed in US drone strikes - Polidicks

[QUOTE=laserguided;39674961]Or they could not risk innocent civilian lives. Instead of killing people with drones they could simply use the drones for recon, then send in a counter terrorism force. But I guess that would require too much money, and foreign civilians aren't worth much to the US.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)[/url] 1500 civilian casualties later What a fine idea! Put boots on the ground! Our people get shot, their people get shot, many more civilians get shot in the crossfire! Damn, why didn't I think of this? [QUOTE=scout1;39674937] Of course we could put boots on the ground. And more people would die in the fighting. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=scout1;39674975][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)[/url] 1500 civilian casualties later What a fine idea! Put boots on the ground! Our people get shot, their people get shot, many more civilians get shot in the crossfire! Damn, why didn't I think of this?[/QUOTE] I like how you're comparing Somali to Pakistan. You know nothing if you're going to make such a absurd comparison like that. They sent in 160 people to kill 6000-5000 militants in lightly armoured vehicles, in comparison to embedding a counter terrorist team in Pakistan to take out 3 suspected militants. I can't argue with stupidity.

[QUOTE=laserguided;39675006]I like how you're comparing Somali to Pakistan. You know nothing if you're going to make such a absurd comparison like that. They sent in 160 people to kill 6000-5000 militants in lightly armoured vehicles, in comparison to embedding a counter terrorist team in Pakistan to take out 3 suspected militants. I can't argue with stupidity.[/QUOTE] Ah, call your opponent stupid because you can't argue with them. Fantastic. Tell me how your "counter-terrorist team" is going to waltz into an urbanized area, take out or capture the target, and then get out. Without inflicting civilian casualties. I will compare it to Somalia, because Somalia has been the most recent and best example of what happens when you send in ground soldiers without overt support from whoever's in charge of the area. There's a reason it scares the state department, even if the extent of their fear is unjustified.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;39674942]So Bush orchestrated a massive conspiracy to make money for these nameless corporations you speak of to make invisible money we never see nor hear of. And he gets nothing.[/QUOTE] Bush senior is the one behind it all obviously.

[QUOTE=scout1;39675028] I will compare it to Somalia, because Somalia has been the most recent and best example of what happens when you send in ground soldiers without overt support from whoever's in charge of the area. There's a reason it scares the state department, even if the extent of their fear is unjustified.[/QUOTE] somalia was and kind of still is an anarchist shithole ruled by warlords pakistan is a more civilized country with a standing government, supported by the united states government, and who is in return supported by pakistan government do you know geography

Many of those 4700 could have been those who seek to reveal the truth. They are painted as domestic terrorists, the controlled media makes an elaborate cover story over them, I mean if you're not understanding all this is what the NDAA is for. People are in so much trouble and they laugh about it, that's the saddest part, laughing about your own slavery and ignorance.

[QUOTE=download;39668930]~Conspiracy~[/QUOTE] The republicans are planning something.... Oh wait, they're republicans, they're incapable of planning a single thing correctly.

[QUOTE=Stewox;39677284]Many of those 4700 could have been those who seek to reveal the truth. They are painted as domestic terrorists, the controlled media makes an elaborate cover story over them, I mean if you're not understanding all this is what the NDAA is for. People are in so much trouble and they laugh about it, that's the saddest part, laughing about your own slavery and ignorance.[/QUOTE] Oh god I'm in tears hahahaha. I think someone needs to stop reading infowars.

[QUOTE=Stewox;39677284]Many of those 4700 could have been those who seek to reveal the truth. They are painted as domestic terrorists, the controlled media makes an elaborate cover story over them, I mean if you're not understanding all this is what the NDAA is for. People are in so much trouble and they laugh about it, that's the saddest part, laughing about your own slavery and ignorance.[/QUOTE] Yeah, these guys who've ruthlessly killed thousands of people, completely control the media, have the world's strongest military, and are bringing in all kinds of legislation to control their citizens, are still being opposed by Infowars and a couple of conspiracy theorists on internet forums. Broski, if they were even half as powerful and malignant as you say they are, you and Alex Jones be in some G-Man's trunk with your kneecaps blown off by now.

[QUOTE=download;39668994]To say they don't exist because they lack a formal structure is like saying Anonymous don't exist[/QUOTE] but they don't

[QUOTE=Cone;39677727]Yeah, these guys who've ruthlessly killed thousands of people, completely control the media, have the world's strongest military, and are bringing in all kinds of legislation to control their citizens, are still being opposed by Infowars and a couple of conspiracy theorists on internet forums. Broski, if they were even half as powerful and malignant as you say they are, you and Alex Jones be in some G-Man's trunk with your kneecaps blown off by now.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that confirms how much success their controlled media has :p

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39670863]i wonder how he would feel if it was his child or relative that got hit by a predator missile by accident[/QUOTE] As long as its middle eastern brown people dying, Americans don't care

Fuck my government :(

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39675417]somalia was and kind of still is an anarchist shithole ruled by warlords pakistan is a more civilized country with a standing government, supported by the united states government, and who is in return supported by pakistan government do you know geography[/QUOTE] Pakistan...Civilized.....Are you sheltered or just ignorant. Pakistan is a hell hole, no different then Afghanistan. People who commit atrocities in tone to the most barbaric parts of their religion and result in shooting each other down for disobeying the law, remember those school girls that got gunned down for going to school. That is what pakistan is on a [B]NORMAL[/B] basis. The only thing you can say that is civilized about that land is they are close enough to each other to call it a country.

I hate drones mostly because they take jobs away from skilled pilots.

[QUOTE=Cone;39677727]Yeah, these guys who've ruthlessly killed thousands of people, completely control the media, have the world's strongest military, and are bringing in all kinds of legislation to control their citizens, are still being opposed by Infowars and a couple of conspiracy theorists on internet forums. Broski, if they were even half as powerful and malignant as you say they are, you and Alex Jones be in some G-Man's trunk with your kneecaps blown off by now.[/QUOTE] No no, it would seem too suspicious if he were silenced shortly after making such claims, the best course of action is to allow him to make himself look like a fool, thus destroying all credibility without drawing attention to the organizations.

[QUOTE=redshift2234;39714549]Pakistan...Civilized.....Are you sheltered or just ignorant. Pakistan is a hell hole, no different then Afghanistan. People who commit atrocities in tone to the most barbaric parts of their religion and result in shooting each other down for disobeying the law, remember those school girls that got gunned down for going to school. That is what pakistan is on a [B]NORMAL[/B] basis. The only thing you can say that is civilized about that land is they are close enough to each other to call it a country.[/QUOTE] lmao, cause every country that isn't america is an anarchist shithole am i rite?? nice calling me ignorant though, i guess it takes one to know one

[QUOTE=King Tiger;39674942]So Bush orchestrated a massive conspiracy to make money for these nameless corporations you speak of to make invisible money we never see nor hear of. And he gets nothing.[/QUOTE] No, no. Here's where it gets complicated and a lot of people fall off quickly; It wasn't Bush, it's not Obama, and it won't be the next President who "orchestrated" this or that- Not exactly. It's the factions working behind the big stage. The Corporations who drive the lobbyists. The people who pay the president and his crew to get into office. So long as they support this bill or that. Nameless Corporations? No. You're looking too shallow into it. Of course you don't see the money because it isn't Walmart or British Petroleum (BP) who is raking the money in. There are a few companies here and there making pretty good profits off rebuilding Iraq or aiding countries who are in dire need (Disasters n' such) but these aren't the bad companies. The "Nameless companies" are the Multinational Banks which offer to provide these services for the distraught country. However, instead of going over and honestly helping the Country. Offering a service and a good deed. They "Fix the country" at as commercially profitable as they can and when the deed is done they demand repayment from the Country. A country which usually, cannot pay. So to pay for these resources they are "urged" (if you will) to Privatize their valuable sectors. That being Water, Oil, Production Industry, and so forth. Enabling these Multinational financial institutions to construct and operate corporations as they see fit within a foreign country. And the problem isn't Bush, the U.S., the U.K., or any of that... it's blind Greed (Though I'm not saying some of those mentioned here have not played their part and should be required to take responsibility...). The problem is profit. Companies seek to profit however they can, to appeal to the investors and ensure longevity of their company. Today, we see our morals being blinded by this and it has enabled an environment where certain groups are... more likely... to turn a blind eye to something such as a Jihadist attack on our Country or the terrorizing of a foreign group via Predator Drones and militant control if it meant they were guaranteed billions of profit over the next decades. This is why I hate the "Conspiracy", because it has us assume there is someone rubbing their hands together deceitfully in some dark room, cackling maniacally. But that isn't the case. What we do have is a very "corrupt" system where greed and a lack of thought towards our future and World is allowed to continue unchecked. A world where profit takes precedence over morals. A few understand what is going on and choose to continue as they due, yes.. but there is no Lord Sidious or Evil Antagonist behind the curtain. A good quote I remember hearing once, I wish I could remember the exact phrasing and the speaker but it goes as such; [i]"From below Greed and Stupidity can appear awfully close to a Conspiracy against the People."[/i]

[QUOTE=Tea Guy;39714915]No no, it would seem too suspicious if he were silenced shortly after making such claims, the best course of action is to allow him to make himself look like a fool, thus destroying all credibility without drawing attention to the organizations.[/QUOTE] Yeah but you see, that's a pretty obvious sign of self-justifying paranoia. What if I told you that there were invisible monsters in my room, but that they've destroyed all evidence of their existence to make me look crazy? Do you find that it's more likely that I'm just a nut trying to convince himself he's something more, or that there really are invisible monsters trying to get me? That would be the exact same situation, just replace "invisible monsters" with "corporations" or "the NWO" or whatever Infowars' flavor of the month is.