FOX: Collapse of Chicago Climate Exchange Means a Strategy Shift on Global Warming Curbs - Polidicks

Well to some extent the Nuclear refuse is quite a bit more volatile. Though it's unlikely, any catastrophe involving highly-radioactive substance is going to be much bigger than any co2 cars or factories can pump out. Like I said, it's unlikely that a catarophe would happen, but radiation leaking into ground-water supplys and soil would be a huge, huge problem. it could basically make entire living spaces unlivable. It's a gamble, really. It's like taking a plane instead of car to go a long distance. Cars crash frequently but those crashes tend to be minor, people can walk out alive, the plane, overall is safer in the longrun, but if a plane crash happens, everybody who is onboard is completely fucked. The car being co2, and the plane being nuclear refuse (in this analogy)

[QUOTE=R3mix;26005490]Couldn't have said it better, and for those who do say " we've got [i]real[/i] problems to deal with..." Well that's a bit stupid, because the only real problem I see right now is - Global Warming - Over-Population - Poverty - And More. If we would've invested more into technology, I think we'd be a whole lot better off in today's society.[/QUOTE] smartest thing i heard you say. if you look through history you see that the biggest difference between us now and a 1000nd year ago was technology, which is why i say it should be what we should be focusing on

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26005608]smartest thing i heard you say. if you look through history you see that the biggest difference between us now and a 1000nd year ago was technology, which is why i say it should be what we should be focusing on[/QUOTE] Politics is something everyone will always disagree on. Science and Technology on the other hand, I think [b]most[/b] of us can agree on that we need to [b]focus[/b] more on it.

[QUOTE=R3mix;26005640]Politics is something everyone will always disagree on. Science and Technology on the other hand, I think [b]most[/b] of us can agree on that we need to [b]focus[/b] more on it.[/QUOTE] Although science and technology advance us, they are not essential to human life usually.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005655]Although science and technology advance us, they are not essential to human life usually.[/QUOTE] Like the science of farming? Or purifying water?

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005655]Although science and technology advance us, they are not essential to human life usually.[/QUOTE] Even so, you cannot say that science and technology have both not allowed humans to live for a longer period of time, allowed to us to farm faster, and allow our society and living standard to be much [b]much[/b] better than 200+ years ago. Plus even more! Without both, the poverty rate, famine, disease, and much more would be EXTREMELY higher.

Well, if you look at the shithole called the Middle Ages, we survived without science. [QUOTE=R3mix;26005678]Even so, you cannot say that science and technology have both not allowed humans to live for a longer period of time, allowed to us to farm faster, and allow our society and living standard to be much [b]much[/b] better than 200+ years ago. Plus even more! Without both, the poverty rate, famine, disease, and much more would be EXTREMELY higher.[/QUOTE] I'm not denying that, and you're correct.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005655]Although science and technology advance us, they are not essential to human life usually.[/QUOTE] yea but without science we would be trying to beat horses to death for food

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005682]Well, if you look at the shithole called the Middle Ages, we survived without science.[/QUOTE] Millions of People only were alive at this time. The planet is now at [b]Billions[/b] of People.

[QUOTE=R3mix;26005707]Millions of People only were alive at this time. The planet is now at [b]Billions[/b] of People.[/QUOTE] Most of them are in shitty countries that are still basically in the middle ages because of over population.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005682]Well, if you look at the shithole called the Middle Ages, we survived without science. I'm not denying that, and you're correct.[/QUOTE] if you call rolling around in the mud and thinking that if someone is sick that you should just bleed out the sickness living

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;26005601]Well to some extent the Nuclear refuse is quite a bit more volatile. Though it's unlikely, any catastrophe involving highly-radioactive substance is going to be much bigger than any co2 cars or factories can pump out. Like I said, it's unlikely that a catarophe would happen, but radiation leaking into ground-water supplys and soil would be a huge, huge problem. it could basically make entire living spaces unlivable. It's a gamble, really. It's like taking a plane instead of car to go a long distance. Cars crash frequently but those crashes tend to be minor, people can walk out alive, the plane, overall is safer in the longrun, but if a plane crash happens, everybody who is onboard is completely fucked. The car being co2, and the plane being nuclear refuse (in this analogy)[/QUOTE] Yes of course. As much as I'd like it to be awesome, the safety of storing fuel in a mountain is a gamble as you said. I'd like to believe that it couldn't run into the water supply. But you just [i]know[/i] it will find it's way there. Perhaps we could launch them into space or the sun, but that would be tremendously expensive.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005727]Most of them are in shitty countries that are still basically in the middle ages because of over population.[/QUOTE] and that can be over comed by science of course

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26005737]if you call rolling around in the mud and thinking that if someone is sick that you should just bleed out the sickness living[/QUOTE] That's still living, even if it sucks. [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;26005752]and that can be over comed by science of course[/QUOTE] Yes, and I'm not denying that. All I'm saying is that science is optional, even if it makes 99% better.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005727]Most of them are in shitty countries that are still basically in the middle ages because of over population.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.goway.com/asia/hongkong/hk_img/hong-kong2.jpg[/img] [img]http://hotels.uptake.com/blog/files/2010/01/Johannesburg-city-south-africa.jpg[/img] [img]http://homepages.nyu.edu/~rah354/london.jpg[/img] Yep. Looks like the rest of the world is totally living in the middle ages.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005756]That's still living, even if it sucks. Yes, and I'm not denying that. All I'm saying is that science is optional, even if it makes 99% better.[/QUOTE] well if we dont start using science better then we mite not even be living at all in 100 years

[QUOTE=R3mix;26005775] Yep. Looks like the rest of the world is totally living in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] India, Pakistan, PRC, Nigeria, and Ethopia are all shitty countries where a ton of people live.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005795]India, Pakistan, PRC, Nigeria, and Ethopia are all shitty countries where a ton of people live.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.delhiroad.com/home/images/mumbai2.jpg[/img] [img]http://web.mit.edu/akpia/www/AKPsite/4.239/lahore/fig10a.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.oyibosonline.com/html/basics/first/images/lagos_city_scene_nigeria.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.pri.org/theworld/files/images/400px-Gonder_from_the_Goha_hotel.jpg[/img] What? Look, you can't expect the entire world to be up to date like every single country. Every country has its own different culture and religion. Insulting countries like that is just plain out stupid. These countries all have their beautiful places, and the same goes to Africa and Iraq, and all those.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005795]India, Pakistan, PRC, Nigeria, and Ethopia are all shitty countries where a ton of people live.[/QUOTE] India also has some of the best universities in the world. And more graduate students than we have students if I remember right.

[QUOTE=OvB;26005888]India also has some of the best universities in the world. And more graduate students than we have students if I remember right.[/QUOTE] India is full of poverty. [QUOTE=R3mix;26005862] What? Look, you can't expect the entire world to be up to date like every single country. Every country has its own different culture and religion. Insulting countries like that is just plain out stupid. These countries all have their beautiful places, and the same goes to Africa and Iraq, and all those.[/QUOTE] Lower standards of living, and I'm not insulting any country.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26005917]Lower standards of living, and I'm not insulting any country.[/QUOTE] What may be to you a " lower standard of living " is not to them. That's like saying the people who live here [img]http://news.blog.gustavus.edu/files/2010/01/Machu-Picchu.jpg[/img] Are living in a low standard. It is [b]THEIR[/b] way of life. Their culture.

[QUOTE=R3mix;26005998]What may be to you a " lower standard of living " is not to them. That's like saying the people who live here Are living in a low standard. It is [b]THEIR[/b] way of life. Their culture.[/QUOTE] You just posted Machu Picchu, that's an Incan site, not a modern place of living.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26006025]You just posted Machu Picchu, that's an Incan site, not a modern place of living.[/QUOTE] You understand that Machu Picchu is located in the Mountains in Peru? Are you saying that everyone lives in different times? As far as I was concerned, we are all living in the 21st century and, by you saying that people are living in shitty conditions of standard living you are implying that wherever you live is the life you believe everyone should live in. Therefore, you are trying to conform the entire world to go to "your standard living style." Which is wrong, because then places like the image I showed you would not exist. You cannot expect people to convert to a different culture / way of living just because in [b]YOUR[/b] opinion " it is better. "

[QUOTE=R3mix;26006130]You understand that Machu Picchu is located in the Mountains in Peru? Are you saying that everyone lives in different times? [/QUOTE] Uh, what? It was a home to Incans in the 1400s.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26006173]Uh, what? It was a home to Incans in the 1400s.[/QUOTE] Okay and? This is the year 2010. It is [b]still the same.[/b]

[QUOTE=R3mix;26006207]Okay and? This is the year 2010. It is [b]still the same.[/b][/QUOTE] We have changed drastically since the 1400s, it isn't the same.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26006267]We have changed drastically since the 1400s, it isn't the same.[/QUOTE] Are you saying that the mountains and the towns there have been completely modernized?

[QUOTE=R3mix;26006278]Are you saying that the mountains and the towns there have been completely modernized?[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I'm not saying anything except that science is optional to humanity. I'm not saying it doesn't make us better, or so.

[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26006025]You just posted Machu Picchu, that's an Incan site, not a modern place of living.[/QUOTE] People still live in the region

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;26006319]People still live in the region[/QUOTE] Of course, but not the actual site.