• Thief who has both legs and one arms broken by victim - claims that he is the real victim and that t
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Imagine being crazy enough to think that it's justified to break 3/4ths of a guys limbs over like 50 europe money's worth of fuel. I dunno abut you guys but I'd just call the cops. They'd investigate, probably find the guy, and I'd get compensated. Yay! I got muh justice without having to maim the fuck out of somebody.
Well, I've nearly done violent things before, what with the one out of two people who abused me actually getting physically violent I was held back by that weird feeling you get when you want or need to do something but it'd be wrong or hurt you in some way. The same type of anxiety I'd get when going into a crowd or talking to someone I don't know, the kind that will prevent me from doing anything. I don't know, maybe I'd be held back by that fear/guilt twinge thing that messes with the temperature in your head in chest. Maybe I'd be a hypocrite and go through with it if it got terrible, but I can honestly say that the latter might be the case since I've been in a position as stressful as that before and I only locked up and took it. I'd probably just desperately try to find something else to keep warm with like trash or a ventilation duct, and give up if I couldn't. If I did take someone's jacket and ran off, I'd probably be going through some sort of anxiety attack slash guilt trip once they caught up with me, but that's because of problems I have unrelated to the hypothetical circumstances. So, I don't know, I can't entirely put myself the shoes of someone in a situation like that. I can imagine why they'd do it if it was life and death, but I still sympathize with the person they stole from more. The person they stole from is the one who society's flaws end up hurting actively. The situation in the article is very much disconnected from the hypothetical. The guy in the article was apparently wealthy enough to own a dog and go fishing, so it wasn't really life or death for him, but that doesn't count since you asked me to bear with you. So, if it was a life and death situation, I'd probably be too ridden with fear of punishment and guilt to do much. I can say that honestly since the same thing happened to me more or less before, but I wouldn't know if the two situations are comparable. [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;43696392]Imagine being crazy enough to think that it's justified to break 3/4ths of a guys limbs over like 50 europe money's worth of fuel. I dunno abut you guys but I'd just call the cops. They'd investigate, probably find the guy, and I'd get compensated. Yay! I got muh justice without having to maim the fuck out of somebody.[/QUOTE] The cops didn't do shit for the guy for the past few years, there's no reason why they'd get the guy this time. That's part of the entire reason why he went after the guy so hard instead of just calling the cops in the first place. [editline]n[/editline] I'm a huge hypocrite, though. I said I'd commit a war crime if I had to choose between that and getting executed, but if there was not a physical gun up to my head I'd be too guilt ridden. Well, shit. I can't sympathize with criminals, I don't have it in me, but I can sympathize with someone who is physically forced into committing a crime. I guess somewhere along the line something broke in my brains and I gotta try and fix it now.
Fuck with me I'll make you a hi-liter
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43694015]More like this thread is filled with people who aren't busy lathering themselves with their own ego because they think it is "wrong" to defend yourself and your livelihood against criminals who are actively destroying it. Woodhouse earned the fuel, Green didn't. Woodhouse would be at a loss without the fuel, and so he got it back using force. His livelihood is more important than the well being of a criminal. Criminals do not get to be treated "fairly" or "equally". They have fucked up. They have done wrong. They, and only they, are responsible for how society and individuals choose to respond to them. If you want to go down the route of "logical justice", the incident was a fluke. The victim is well adjusted and normal otherwise. There is no reason to imprison or punish him. He does not need psychological help.[/QUOTE] hey fuckwit do you actively call the cops on pirates of computer media because they are law breaking scum [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=BrickInHead;43696219]im gonna give you a hypothetical. this will probably seem ridiculous and impossible but bear with me you "live" in the middle of the bronx. no one in your family ever graduated college. you work a shit job at mcdonalds. you are fired from this shit job at mcdonalds. without this shit minimum wage job, you have no way to pay for your shit apartment, are evicted, and left out on the streets. out on the streets you find that you can't rely on the kindness of strangers, and no one is giving you money. you have no food, you have nothing. suddenly it's the middle of january - guess what, it's less than 10 degrees out and all of the homeless shelters are packed capacity to the point that you can't get into them. you're turned away by the police at the subway stations - the only place that you can sleep is on the street. but you'll literally [I]die[/I] if you try to sleep on the street without a jacket, or something to keep you warm. given that you will [I]die[/I] unless you procure a jacket for the evening, do you deserve to be beaten the shit out of if you, in desperation, steal a pricey (or even not so pricey) jacket from someone's seat at a restuarant, park, in the street, whatever? you "hurt" them by taking away their clothing, something that cost them money. do they have the right, and the permission, to chase you down, beat the shit out of you, take back their jacket (which hey, is most likely worth more than the 50 pounds worth of gas this dude stole), and leave you on the street? if your only choice is to face death or ruin, is there really a choice? [editline]27th January 2014[/editline] i want to implore you to take this seriously and ask yourself what YOU would do in the situation. not what someone else SHOULD do, but what YOU would ACTUALLY do.[/QUOTE] no see in this one no matter what his cultural references are he'd STILL be the 'good guy' because that's what his [I]current[/I] diddy taught him
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696521]hey fuckwit do you actively call the cops on pirates of computer media because they are law breaking scum[/QUOTE] No, because that isn't possible and wouldn't do anything to catch anybody, and no, because there's a huge difference between pirating infinitely replicable media from a faceless institution or company that is composed of many different people who will never be adversely effected by it and stealing from a singular person. Do you refuse to call the cops when someone is getting mugged? See what a silly comparison that is to make?
i've had thousands of dollars worth of my shit and my friends shit stolen from my property and had limp dicked cops tell me there's nothing they can fuckin' do; the dudes lived down the street and i knew their full names, i found my shit in pawnshops and they refused to cooperate because they had to protect their investments and i didn't fuckin' write serial codes down for everything i own do you think beating the shit out of those heroin addicts in the name of personal justice would have actually been justice or do you think, [I]maybe[/I], it'd just make me feel better? [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43696604]No, because that isn't possible and wouldn't do anything to catch anybody, and no, because there's a huge difference between pirating infinitely replicable media from a faceless institution or company that is composed of many different people who will never be adversely effected by it and stealing from a singular person. Do you refuse to call the cops when someone is getting mugged? See what a silly comparison that is to make?[/QUOTE] "some crimes are ok and some crimes you must be a vindictive sociopath to indulge in, mainly because i commit one sort of crime and am scared shitless of the other" ok [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] ps telling yourself stealing people's life work is ok because they work in the entertainment biz and don't really matter is naive as fuck read a book
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696617]i've had thousands of dollars worth of my shit and my friends shit stolen from my property and had limp dicked cops tell me there's nothing they can fuckin' do; the dudes lived down the street and i knew their full names, i found my shit in pawnshops and they refused to cooperate because they had to protect their investments and i didn't fuckin' write serial codes down for everything i own do you think beating the shit out of those heroin addicts in the name of personal justice would have actually been justice or do you think, [I]maybe[/I], it'd just make me feel better? [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] "some crimes are ok and some crimes you must be a vindictive sociopath to indulge in, mainly because i commit one sort of crime and am scared shitless of the other" ok [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] ps telling yourself stealing people's life work is ok because they work in the entertainment biz and don't really matter is naive as fuck read a book[/QUOTE] You are such a gigantic douchebag, wow. Chill the fuck out
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43696652]You are such a gigantic douchebag, wow[/QUOTE] don't paint criminals as subhuman scum and then excuse yourself from the classification don't get mad when other people won't
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696663]don't paint criminals as subhuman scum and then excuse yourself from the classification don't get mad when other people won't[/QUOTE] I'm not mad and I'm not painting criminals as anything tho?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43696686]I'm not mad and I'm not painting criminals as anything tho?[/QUOTE] excellent addition to the discussion a+
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696705]excellent addition to the discussion a+[/QUOTE] I am not a part of the "discussion" because the "discussion" is dumb. I will not be an apologist for either of these men, they are both terrible people
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43696783]I am not a part of the "discussion" because the "discussion" is dumb. I will not be an apologist for either of these men, they are both terrible people[/QUOTE] you have missed the point of posting in forum topics entirely then if you didn't want to talk about the topic, click on a different topic and stop post
Obviously the guy shouldn't have been stealing diesel, and the other guy [i]probably[/i] shouldn't have beaten him as bad as he did, I don't care what anyone says considering the circumstances provided by the source that seems excessive. I can't say I blame the guy though, the thief got was coming to him, but that doesn't make it any less excessive, because god damn two broken legs and a broken arm? That's pretty serious over 50 euros worth of fuel.
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43696604]No, because that isn't possible and wouldn't do anything to catch anybody, and no, because there's a huge difference between pirating infinitely replicable media from a faceless institution or company that is composed of many different people who will never be adversely effected by it and stealing from a singular person. Do you refuse to call the cops when someone is getting mugged? See what a silly comparison that is to make?[/QUOTE] i'm a part of the "faceless institution" - can i break your limbs now or what
He did what he had to do to stop the guy. It's sort of impossible to exactly x pounds worth of damage to someone when you're in a physical altercation. Better than just giving up and letting people steal your shit without any help from the police. [editline]28th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Juniez;43696899]i'm a part of the "faceless institution" - can i be breaking your limbs now or what[/QUOTE] If someone steals directly from you they aren't stealing from a faceless institution, but they are still damaging it indirectly by damaging one of its contributing members. So, go ahead, snap me. I have a fragile little body that'll crumble very easily.
can i ... break a collective part of your limb ?
[QUOTE=Juniez;43696932]can i ... break a collective part of your limb ?[/QUOTE] I don't know how that is physically possible unless you just mean breaking it in multiple parts but okay. I've been called a masochist by multiple people before so maybe it'll make me hard I don't know.
haaah i'm just kiddin there's no point to it and i don't take pleasure in other peoples' suffering! that.. would be sociopathic of me
[QUOTE=Juniez;43696965]haaah i'm just kiddin there's no point to it and i don't take pleasure in other peoples' suffering! that.. would be sociopathic of me[/QUOTE] uh NO hurting people when you decide they deserve it is ok
[QUOTE=Juniez;43696965]haaah i'm just kiddin there's no point to it and i don't take pleasure in other peoples' suffering! that.. would be sociopathic of me[/QUOTE] I'd be too busy crying than to be making long winded convoluted rants in a misanthropic rage for no tangible reason so it'd serve some point.
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43697022]I'd be too busy crying than to be making long winded convoluted rants in a misanthropic rage for no tangible reason so it'd serve some point.[/QUOTE] wtf that's the last thing i'd want to happen dude!! i don't value the property of anything over a human being
And it's totally a-okay because there's no natural law to say otherwise I guess so just let it rip I give up.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696843]you have missed the point of posting in forum topics entirely then if you didn't want to talk about the topic, click on a different topic and stop post[/QUOTE] You are not doing a good job at proving your point though. Chances are you would not talk to me like this if I could punch you in the dick. I wouldn't of course, I'm not that kind of person, but you are a prime example of why there can be no mutual respect without the threat of violence
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43697108]You are not doing a good job at proving your point though. Chances are you would not talk to me like this if I could punch you in the dick. I wouldn't of course, I'm not that kind of person, but you are a prime example of why there can be no mutual respect without the threat of violence[/QUOTE] you are a prime example of why humanity still isn't in space you know what other kinds of animals think that fucking primitive shit? all of them. do you know how many scientific breakthroughs gorillas have masterminded? violence isn't a necessity you fucking dolt and pretending it is because you couldn't actually respond to what i'm saying is ridiculous
I have no clue why but I just flew into some week long expanse of manic depression or misanthropic rage or something and exposed a surging error in my worldview and now I'm angry because I was contradictory to myself and I still want to fix it while being able to hate the things I hate. I don't think this is something an adult should be doing or going through or whatever, either I'm relapsing or I've drifted into edgy territory out of some desperate attempt to prove to myself that I'm not dumb while still pandering to my own emotions. Well, shit.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43697108]You are not doing a good job at proving your point though. Chances are you would not talk to me like this if I could punch you in the dick. I wouldn't of course, I'm not that kind of person, but you are a prime example of why there can be no mutual respect without the threat of violence[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=innerfire34;43690978]oh no wait when people pirate shit there's no chance of the victims of the crime personally retaliating against me so there's no fear to keep me in check that's the only reason i don't steal things irl this scumbag should have seen this coming (i know i would have)[/QUOTE] is this how you live your life, it sure sounds like it the only reason you don't say what's on your mind is because people are scary and might physically assault you? ok
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43697175]you are a prime example of why humanity still isn't in space[/QUOTE] No, that would be you too. I'm not the one that's a dick to people on the internet for absolutely no reason [QUOTE=innerfire34;43697175]you know what other kinds of animals think that fucking primitive shit? all of them. do you know how many scientific breakthroughs gorillas have masterminded? violence isn't a necessity you fucking dolt and pretending it is because you couldn't actually respond to what i'm saying is ridiculous[/QUOTE] Yeah, people are animals though. Violence is a necessity, it is the only thing that would stop you from talking shit. You are the disrespectful fuck who hates everyone with different opinions, not me [QUOTE=innerfire34;43697252]is this how you live your life, it sure sounds like it the only reason you don't say what's on your mind is because people are scary and might physically assault you? ok[/QUOTE] Yeah, and the only reason you're so badass right now is because you're a gold member from '06 and are nearly immune to getting banned, which is the only possible form of punishment on the internet
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43700553] Yeah, and the only reason you're so badass right now is because you're a gold member from '06 and are nearly immune to getting banned, which is the only possible form of punishment on the internet[/QUOTE] You're forgetting something, here we are all equally banworthy, even mods get banned once in a great while.
Stealing is stealing. When you're a thief the risk is anything up to and including death, no matter what you steal. It's not the fault of the guy who owned what was being stolen for the thief's terrible risk assessment
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43700893]Stealing is stealing. When you're a thief the risk is anything up to and including death, no matter what you steal. It's not the fault of the guy who owned what was being stolen for the thief's terrible risk assessment[/QUOTE] this makes it sound like the thief tripped and fell on the guy's property and is angry about it the dude broke his limbs with force
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