Thief who has both legs and one arms broken by victim - claims that he is the real victim and that t
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[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43700553]No, that would be you too. I'm not the one that's a dick to people on the internet for absolutely no reason
Yeah, people are animals though. Violence is a necessity, it is the only thing that would stop you from talking shit. You are the disrespectful fuck who hates everyone with different opinions, not me
Yeah, and the only reason you're so badass right now is because you're a gold member from '06 and are nearly immune to getting banned, which is the only possible form of punishment on the internet[/QUOTE]
violence wouldn't stop me from talking shit, speaking from personal experience. unlike the animals you lump humanity and yourself in with i'm capable of higher thought. pee ess there's very little keeping me from getting banned
you remind me of this incredibly slow talking senior my freshman year of highschool who kept telling me to 'shut the fuck up' and thought making that happen was as easy as threatening me. i stood up, walked over to him looked that almost non-sentient fuck up dead in the eyes in the middle of class and told him to shut the fuck up or throw a punch, because either way this kid four years his junior was gonna keep on being a loud mouth just like he was gonna keep on being semi-retarded. he tried to stare me down but was too fuckin stupid to actually respond (he had [I]already[/I] threatened me what other ways of communication are there?? it was hilarious he wanted to say something so badly but the only thoughts that mattered to him were about hitting people and he had already used most of them, and i was gesturing towards myself and saying 'hit me' so he couldn't) so he just locked up and walked out of the room. two weeks later he got in a fight with someone a year younger than him, lost, and dropped out due to shame.
another quick note: you not getting buttfrustrated over my mean words is not a necessity that requires violence to facilitate punishment. respect is a social idea and is [I]definitely[/I] not based around who's more prone to hurting people (how do you even think this what small town of fifteen people do you come from)
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43701655]violence wouldn't stop me from talking shit, speaking from personal experience. unlike the animals you lump humanity and yourself in with i'm capable of higher thought. pee ess there's very little keeping me from getting banned
another quick note: you not getting buttfrustrated over my mean words is not a necessity that requires violence to facilitate punishment. respect is a social idea and is [I]definitely[/I] not based around who's more prone to hurting people (how do you even think this what small town of fifteen people do you come from)[/QUOTE]
Man, you seem like such a great guy to know in real life. Can you even say a sentence without saying something mean? Were you raised in a barn or something?
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43701655]you remind me of this incredibly slow talking senior my freshman year of highschool who kept telling me to 'shut the fuck up' and thought making that happen was as easy as threatening me. i stood up, walked over to him looked that almost non-sentient fuck up dead in the eyes in the middle of class and told him to shut the fuck up or throw a punch, because either way this kid four years his junior was gonna keep on being a loud mouth just like he was gonna keep on being semi-retarded. he tried to stare me down but was too fuckin stupid to actually respond (he had [I]already[/I] threatened me what other ways of communication are there??) so he just locked up and walked out of the room. two weeks later he got in a fight with someone a year younger than him, lost, and dropped out due to shame.[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with me though? I didn't threaten you, and I probably wouldn't
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43701822]Man, you seem like such a great guy to know in real life. Can you even say a sentence without saying something mean? Were you raised in a barn or something?[/QUOTE]
once again you having a bad reaction to mean words is your problem bud
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43701871]once again you having a bad reaction to mean words is your problem bud[/QUOTE]
Whatever, dick. I'm out
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[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43701822]Man, you seem like such a great guy to know in real life. Can you even say a sentence without saying something mean? Were you raised in a barn or something?
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
What does that have to do with me though? I didn't threaten you, and I probably wouldn't[/QUOTE]
the threat of physical violence doesn't earn you respect, [I]especially[/I] if you don't deserve it
if you really can't see what that has to do with your theoretical about how i'd react in a different situation i don't know what else to tell you but read a fucking book once in awhile
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43701878]Whatever, dick. I'm out
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whoah
the amount of edgemasters in this thread is amazing
3 broken limbs is more than enough for a punishment
take your fucking angst elsewhere
[QUOTE=NotMeh;43702130]the amount of edgemasters in this thread is amazing
3 broken limbs is more than enough for a punishment
take your fucking angst elsewhere[/QUOTE]
Where is there to take angst, if not the internet?
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43696617]i've had thousands of dollars worth of my shit and my friends shit stolen from my property and had limp dicked cops tell me there's nothing they can fuckin' do; the dudes lived down the street and i knew their full names, i found my shit in pawnshops and they refused to cooperate because they had to protect their investments and i didn't fuckin' write serial codes down for everything i own
do you think beating the shit out of those heroin addicts in the name of personal justice would have actually been justice or do you think, [I]maybe[/I], it'd just make me feel better?
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
"some crimes are ok and some crimes you must be a vindictive sociopath to indulge in, mainly because i commit one sort of crime and am scared shitless of the other" ok
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
ps telling yourself stealing people's life work is ok because they work in the entertainment biz and don't really matter is naive as fuck read a book[/QUOTE]
Oh look, anecdotal evidence of why you are in the right. And it's not even the right situation. You weren't threatened, you were robbed. These heroin addicts didn't threaten you with a bat or keep stealing from you for a long ass time, or have two of them against only you.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
If you really want to go there, last year some old woman near me had a break in when she was home and they fucking raped and killed her before stealing her shit.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;43702170]Oh look, anecdotal evidence of why you are in the right. And it's not even the right situation. You weren't threatened, you were robbed. These heroin addicts didn't threaten you with a bat or keep stealing from you for a long ass time, or have two of them against only you.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
If you really want to go there, last year some old woman near me had a break in when she was home and they fucking raped and killed her before stealing her shit.[/QUOTE]
there were two of them, i was home and asleep, i found one of the knives that must have fallen out of their pockets while they were lifting my tv or some shit on the ground afterwards
was my worldview rocked and life changed by fear? nay-ope. mostly i'm out some cool gadgets and a shitty guitar pedal.
tbh i'm not even sure what you're trying to say?? am i less of a victim of crime or something? in your mind i guess it's a miracle i wasn't stabbed to death
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
at least my story happened to me
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43696444]So, I don't know, I can't entirely put myself the shoes of someone in a situation like that.
I can imagine why they'd do it if it was life and death, but I still sympathize with the person they stole from more. The person they stole from is the one who society's flaws end up hurting actively.[/quote]
i was understanding up until this point.
an individual placed in that situation would be [I]dead[/I]. I feel like that's hurting someone "actively" and "directly". The individual with the coat is hurt because of it, of course. but they're not going to die.
[quote]The situation in the article is very much disconnected from the hypothetical. The guy in the article was apparently wealthy enough to own a dog and go fishing, so it wasn't really life or death for him, but that doesn't count since you asked me to bear with you.[/quote]
your perceptions of what ought to happen to a thief in both circumstances stem from the same norm and belief, that people are ultimately the only ones to be held accountable for their actions. By tackling this, I was hoping that you'd see there's more than a small amount of issue with holding your belief.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;43687467]AFAIK the punishment the thief received was absolutely not sufficient for the crime.
£75 and no jail time is a total joke. Makes it worth it to try again - Steal 2 tanks of petrol and you've already covered the fine. Would probably receive the punishment, get straight out, and do it again.
With the justice he received this time, hopefully he'll think twice about doing it again when he heals up.
It's good that the thief wasn't carrying a knife - because I have no doubt he would have used it in self defense whilst getting his ass beaten.[/QUOTE]
Well, I mean, technically 3 broken limbs is overly sufficient for the crime.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43702246]there were two of them, i was home and asleep, i found one of the knives that must have fallen out of their pockets while they were lifting my tv or some shit on the ground afterwards
was my worldview rocked and life changed by fear? nay-ope. mostly i'm out some cool gadgets and a shitty guitar pedal.
tbh i'm not even sure what you're trying to say?? am i less of a victim of crime or something? in your mind i guess it's a miracle i wasn't stabbed to death
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
at least my story happened to me[/QUOTE]
I'm saying why the fuck are you even bringing it up when it's not even close to the same circumstances at all other than pitty points. Congrats you were robbed, you weren't threatened physically at all and again anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit in a debate.
[QUOTE=NotMeh;43702130]the amount of edgemasters in this thread is amazing
3 broken limbs is more than enough for a punishment
take your fucking angst elsewhere[/QUOTE]
We need to expand our vocabulary a bit because you're just as easily considered an edgy and angsty nerd. "What sociopath values ~stuff~ over human safety???" You may disagree (doesn't make you a retard... guess I should throw that out since these SH threads assume the worst) but that viewpoint is edgier than Chris Angel.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;43687467]AFAIK the punishment the thief received was absolutely not sufficient for the crime.
£75 and no jail time is a total joke. Makes it worth it to try again - Steal 2 tanks of petrol and you've already covered the fine. Would probably receive the punishment, get straight out, and do it again.
With the justice he received this time, hopefully he'll think twice about doing it again when he heals up.
It's good that the thief wasn't carrying a knife - because I have no doubt he would have used it in self defense whilst getting his ass beaten.[/QUOTE]
Remember the first offender clause. Generally speaking first offenders for petty crimes get much easier off than repeat offenders in a way of making it easier for them to get out of a crime cycle in the first place.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;43703710]I'm saying why the fuck are you even bringing it up when it's not even close to the same circumstances at all other than pitty points. Congrats you were robbed, you weren't threatened physically at all and again anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit in a debate.[/QUOTE]
so you don't consider armed dudes breaking into your house a threat but you do consider a fifty year old man with a fencepost dangerous enough to call for a savage beating
what the fuck is with every gung-ho nerd on facepunch considering every single form of communication a debate?? did highschool debate teams blow up right after i got out or something??
[QUOTE=innerfire34;43704082]so you don't consider armed dudes breaking into your house a threat but you do consider a fifty year old man with a fencepost dangerous enough to call for a savage beating
what the fuck is with every gung-ho nerd on facepunch considering every single form of communication a debate?? did highschool debate teams blow up right after i got out or something??[/QUOTE]
You weren't directly threatened at all. The man who beat the other guy was. And don't bring up age because anyone can be a threat when they have a weapon. And way to hivemind about nerd debate when you ARE debating since you ARE trying to prove you're opinion is right.
Breaking someones arm, especially at that age, is easier than it sounds. We had a robber in our store that got his arm broken when people outside stopped him by taking his arm and pushing him to the ground. That's all they did. And this robber was around 25 years old.
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