Thief who has both legs and one arms broken by victim - claims that he is the real victim and that t
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[QUOTE=alexfrance;43687393]True, but it should.[/QUOTE]
That would be more primitive than ancient law codes.
[QUOTE=xianlee;43687348]This so much, the thief has no rights what so ever.[/QUOTE]
By that logic if someone steals your pen at school you're allowed to shoot them in the face
Whatever happened to the idea that punishment for crimes should be doled out by the courts?
Shit, one can't really blame the homeowner for kicking his shit in, but he shouldn't have.
[editline]27th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=codemaster85;43687396]in most countries, if you become a criminal you forfeit most of your civilian rights.[/QUOTE]
Since when was not having your legs broken a civilian right?
Living in the southern United States, thievery isn't taken lightly here and is likely to get you killed depending on the situation.
My point being here is he may not be able to fish, but he still has his life and he should be grateful that the situation didn't take a turn for the worse.
People in here seem to view petty theft the same as mass murder.
He tried to steal £75 of petrol? MURDER THE SCUM HE DESERVES IT
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;43687426]People in here seem to view petty theft the same as mass murder.
He tried to steal £75 of petrol? MURDER THE SCUM HE DESERVES IT[/QUOTE]
People in here seem to view a few broken bones as death.
[QUOTE=Frustration96;43687435]People in here seem to view a few broken bones as death.[/QUOTE]
3 broken limbs
Oh its just a few broken bones walk it off you pussy
AFAIK the punishment the thief received was absolutely not sufficient for the crime.
£75 and no jail time is a total joke. Makes it worth it to try again - Steal 2 tanks of petrol and you've already covered the fine. Would probably receive the punishment, get straight out, and do it again.
With the justice he received this time, hopefully he'll think twice about doing it again when he heals up.
It's good that the thief wasn't carrying a knife - because I have no doubt he would have used it in self defense whilst getting his ass beaten.
Crocodile tears, don't want bad things to happen to you?
Don't do bad things to other people... and especially don't cry like a baby when [b]you[/b] being an asshole, backfires on ya.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;43687230]Also atrocious that the other guy faced life imprisonment if found guilty. Actually amazed that the justice system worked the way it should this time around.[/QUOTE]
You know in almost two decades very few people have actually been charged for beating the shit out of criminals and making a citizens arrest? The justice system works the way it is supposed to and works well, contrary to what shit papers like the Daily Mail might say, and what some people actually believe. If there is suspicion that you were over zealous in self defence you get charged and virtually almost always you will be acquitted. That is how our system works and that is how it should work.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43687484]You know in almost two decades very few people have actually been charged for beating the shit out of criminals and making a citizens arrest? The justice system works the way it is supposed to and works well, contrary to what shit papers like the Daily Mail might say, and what some people actually believe. If there is suspicion that you were over zealous you get charged and virtually almost always you will be acquitted. That is how our system works.[/QUOTE]
Same in the United States and Canada. You kill a man for trying to rob your house? Fair game. They find out you put a round into his skull after he tripped on your floor, and fell to the ground while retreating? Oh you are in for 1st Degree Murder charges.
[QUOTE=Jorori;43687328]Can you all please get more vindictive and sociopathic?
This is like being happy at a person becoming tetraplegic and wanting them to die just because they tried to steal a piece of bread. It's not justice, it's just cold-blooded murderous revenge.[/QUOTE]
But you're ok with someone almost being sent away for life protecting his property?
That's like being annoyed a farmer getting sent away for trying to stop thieves from stealing his livestock. If we're doing stupid prepositions.
The guy got acquitted by the jury in 20 minutes but lets ignore that and get angry over what could have happened.
[QUOTE=slamex;43687501]But you're ok with someone almost being sent away for life protecting his property?[/QUOTE]
"Almost". It took 20 minutes for the jury to acquit him you speshtard
[QUOTE=slamex;43687501]That's like being annoyed a farmer getting sent away for trying to stop thieves from stealing his livestock. If we're doing stupid prepositions.[/QUOTE]
You're allowed to protect your property under British law. A farmer could threaten thieves with a shotgun and that would be perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;43687464]3 broken limbs
Oh its just a few broken bones walk it off you pussy[/QUOTE]
You are saying this like he did nothing wrong. As if some innocent man just got his limbs broken. He was stealing and deserved what he got, there is nothing more to it.
If you think a £75 alone would have stopped him trying to steal anything then you are nuts.
[QUOTE=Frustration96;43687517]You are saying this like he did nothing wrong. As if some innocent man just got his limbs broken. He was stealing and deserved what he got, there is nothing more to it.
If you think a £75 alone would have stopped him trying to steal anything then you are nuts.[/QUOTE]
The fine is probably low because he got the shit beaten out of him.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43687516]"Almost"It took 20 minutes for the jury to acquit him you speshtard
You're allowed to protect your property under British law. A farmer could threaten thieves with a shotgun and that would be perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
A farmer cannot fire that shotgun, and he can also not chase the thieves away because as soon as they cross off his property he commits a firearms offence under UK law.
The most he can do is whack them with it.
Basically UK self defences laws are pretty crap considering farmers are a target for their red diesel.
Just want to point this out by the way: You have to attend a court case most of the time when you kill or wound someone in self-defense, even in the United States.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43687516]You're allowed to protect your property under British law. A farmer could threaten thieves with a shotgun and that would be perfectly fine.[/QUOTE]
And if the thieves carried on? Would everyone be OK if the farmer then shot them?
"'He shot my son like a madman - all over some livestock!"
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;43687530]A farmer cannot fire that shotgun, and he can also not chase the thieves away because as soon as they cross off his property he commits a firearms offence under UK law.
The most he can do is whack them with it.
Basically UK self defences laws are pretty crap considering farmers are a target for their red diesel.[/QUOTE]
You can actually shoot and kill people in self defence in the UK.
Technically you can shoot someone with a howitzer if you thought it was reasonable force for the situation.
This is the country that literally gives you a queens gallantry medal for killing a flaming dying terrorist in the balls.
b-b-but the daily mail told me that criminals are free to murder and steal everything they want!!!
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;43687530]A farmer cannot fire that shotgun, and he can also not chase the thieves away because as soon as they cross off his property he commits a firearms offence under UK law.
The most he can do is whack them with it.
Basically UK self defences laws are pretty crap considering farmers are a target for their red diesel.[/QUOTE]
Actually their was a recent change in the UK's self defense laws which allows you to use a firearm you own for self-defense, so long as it's justified. In other words, if they are running, and not popping a gun at you, don't chase after them shooting.
Id like to know how he broke his legs. I immagned he used a wrench
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;43687467]AFAIK the punishment the thief received was absolutely not sufficient for the crime.
£75 and no jail time is a total joke. Makes it worth it to try again - Steal 2 tanks of petrol and you've already covered the fine. Would probably receive the punishment, get straight out, and do it again.
[B]With the justice he received this time,[/B] hopefully he'll think twice about doing it again when he heals up.
It's good that the thief wasn't carrying a knife - because I have no doubt he would have used it in self defense whilst getting his ass beaten.[/QUOTE]
Your view of justice is clearly very different to mine.
Hell, I remember hearing about someone who phoned the police because he got shot with an air rifle when burgling a house. The judge just basically used that as an admission of guilt that he had been attempting to burgle a house.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43687554]Your view of justice is clearly very different to mine.[/QUOTE]
What do you think would have been justice for him then?
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43687571]Hell, I remember hearing about someone who phoned the police because he got shot with an air rifle when burgling a house. The judge just basically used that as an admission of guilt that he had been attempting to burgle a house.[/QUOTE]
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seriously, how and why would you do that?
[QUOTE=Frustration96;43687573]What do you think would have been justice for him then?[/QUOTE]
A fine and community service.
This is not the greatest monster of our generation this is a 50 year old man stealing some diesel.
[QUOTE=Frustration96;43687543]And if the thieves carried on? Would everyone be OK if the farmer then shot them?
"'He shot my son like a madman - all over some livestock!"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43687547]You can actually shoot at kill people in self defence in the UK.
Technically you can shoot someone with a howitzer if you thought it was reasonable force for the situation.
This is the country that literally gives you a queens gallantry medal for killing a flaming dying terrorist in the balls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43687551]Actually their was a recent change in the UK's self defense laws which allows you to use a firearm you own for self-defense, so long as it's justified. In other words, if they are running, and not popping a gun at you, don't chase after them shooting.[/QUOTE]
Unless your life was in immediate danger (i.e they were shooting at you) then no you can't shoot them, but even if you chased them to the end of say your driveway or across your field you can be charged with brandishing a weapon in a public place and threatening with a deadly weapon, if you were to fire and injure them it becomes assault with a deadly weapon.
Basically the uk laws go from "yes this is fine" to "holy shit no you are a very bad man" and escalate rapidly from there. Please note that I say can because in most cases you won't but it depends entirely on what the crown wants to do with regard to prosecution and the severity of the offence.
[QUOTE=Frustration96;43687573]What do you think would have been justice for him then?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.
That said, I'm incredibly hesitant to consider any form of injury justice. You don't need to brick someone to punish them.
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