Harrow offers primary schools option to serve halal-only meat - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23919050]Hey maybe also we can ban PE because someone could get hurt. And then we should ban maths because it's unfair to the dim kids. After that we'll ban English because my mate Darren reckons that English was the language of the slave trade and as a eco-conscious liberal with a friend with a black friend he finds the English language offensive.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/Lurkertom/Random%20Weird%20Stuff/slippery.png[/IMG] EDIT: Or strawman, that works too

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23919040]Fixed that for you[/QUOTE] Well we'll have to wait and see if any school chooses to go with Harrison Catering Services I guess.

You guys are getting too worked about this. This itself was not initiated by Muslims but instead was just voluntary. Now here we have the PRESIDENT of the Halal Food Authority saying this is good, but it should only be an option along with the other foods, not only that but they should be properly labelled. So non-Muslims can have a choice. OP can't read nor can others.

None of you read the article it seems. The president of the halalalalala food something something said he didn't want it to replace current food, just that he feels kids should have the choice to have it.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;23919680]None of you read the article it seems. The president of the halalalalala food something something said he didn't want it to replace current food, just that he feels kids should have the choice to have it.[/QUOTE] He's not the one who's doing this.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918713]I like when people dictate what should be eaten and shouldn't based on personal opinion. It's quite telling.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure you can bring your own lunch. [editline]02:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ZekeTwo;23918985]This has nothing to do with nutrition, it's about a public institution endorsing one religion over another.[/QUOTE] To be fair, they're also offering vegetarian and fish options.

[QUOTE=Billiam;23919922]Pretty sure you can bring your own lunch.[/quote] Not if you're poor. [quote]To be fair, they're also offering vegetarian and fish options.[/QUOTE] Good for Muslims and vegetarians. And the only people who lose out are the majority.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660]This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] They cannot eat Chicken. (No external ears) Those rules are fucking retarded. Only a crazy, delusional motherfucker could think those up. Oh wait, one did.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660]This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] [quote] * land animals without external ears[/quote] whoa whoa wait a minute since when was this haram

[QUOTE=DrBreen;23918613]i always knew the British were ass kissers[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.bushywood.com/images/Potrait_of_Sir_Winston_Churchill.jpg[/img] Not all of them were.

It's not really a big deal. I can't ever remember eating pig at Primary School anyway; it was always lamb/chicken/beef/turkey [editline]09:44PM[/editline] Also you guys realise why they're doing this, right? Muslims (like Jews with Kosher laws) can only eat food prepared in a Halal kitchen. If people cook food that isn't Halal in that kitchen, then even if that kitchen then serves Halal meat the food isn't Halal. The only way it'd be Halal is if it's scrubbed like Hell, which isn't an option for a school that would regularly serve non Halal food. If you serve non-Halal food in the kitchen then only kids who don't have religious diet restrictions can eat there. If you serve only Halal food, Muslim kids can also eat there. Since Harrow is filled with Muslims, this is sensible. Lots of fast food restaurants in London are Halal and since the only real difference is the presence or absence of pork I'm not seeing the problem.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660] animals not slaughtered in the name of Allah[/QUOTE] Bah that's fucking hilarious

Why can't the Muslims just not eat the food instead of stopping everyone else from eating it?

[QUOTE=Thom12255;23922634]Why can't the Muslims just not eat the food instead of stopping everyone else from eating it?[/QUOTE] Harrow has lots of Muslims. They already offer [url=http://www.harrow.gov.uk/info/329/funerals_and_burials/1390/burial_plots/5]Muslim burial plots[/url] and a [url=http://www.harrow.gov.uk/downloads/download/1091/muslim_youth_council]Muslim Youth Council[/url]. This decision means in schools with lots of Muslims, more children can benefit from school dinners.

[QUOTE=Thom12255;23922634]Why can't the Muslims just not eat the food instead of stopping everyone else from eating it?[/QUOTE] You do realize that this option was entirely up to the school?

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23922728]Harrow has lots of Muslims. They already offer [url=http://www.harrow.gov.uk/info/329/funerals_and_burials/1390/burial_plots/5]Muslim burial plots[/url] and a [url=http://www.harrow.gov.uk/downloads/download/1091/muslim_youth_council]Muslim Youth Council[/url]. This decision means in schools with lots of Muslims, more children can benefit from school dinners.[/QUOTE] You ignored Thoms statement well there.

[QUOTE=OatmealMan;23922813]You ignored Thoms statement well there.[/QUOTE] The only thing they're stopping people eating is pork. By serving pork, you're stopping lots of kids eating school dinners. By not serving pork and only serving Halal meat (which tastes pretty much the same) you're getting more children to eat school dinners. From a child welfare perspective, it's the right option.

Halal meat is the same shit I dont see the problem.

''Masood Khawaja, president of the Halal Food Authority (HFA), said he welcomed the move but stressed that pupils should not be forced to eat halal meat. "It's commendable for any local authority to introduce halal meals for Muslim students and pupils, but we also say that it should be properly labelled," he said. "Non-Muslims should have a choice as well."'' Looks like even they agree that they should've added the option, not just replaced the whole thing altogether

considering there are some areas of london with nothing BUT muslims, i don't see the problem

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23918826]Still you do not understand the idea of free choice.[/QUOTE] You do not understand the idea of catering. They're not forcing you to eat Halal, they're just choosing what food to cater. They could choose to not cater any food, or to only cater Soylent Green. It's a completely optional service.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23921394]Not if you're poor.[/QUOTE] If you're too poor to afford a sack-lunch I don't think you give a damn if you have to eat Halal meat. [QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23921394]Good for Muslims and vegetarians. And the only people who lose out are the majority.[/QUOTE] I don't see how the majority loses out, if they're unbound by religion it really doesn't matter what they eat, and if they're Christian they now have meals that are safe for Lent fasting. Besides, if Harrow really is "filled with Muslims" then the majority doesn't lose anyway. Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal.

Yeah it's not like Halal meat is artificial meat or something. It's just meat that was killed a certain way and blessed, so it really makes no difference to the average person.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23922504]It's not really a big deal. I can't ever remember eating pig at Primary School anyway; it was always lamb/chicken/beef/turkey[/QUOTE] Chickens and turkeys aren't halal. [editline]11:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=shill le 2nd;23923960]You do not understand the idea of catering. They're not forcing you to eat Halal, they're just choosing what food to cater. They could choose to not cater any food, or to only cater Soylent Green. It's a completely optional service.[/QUOTE] Not at primary schools. Poor children have been given free school meals by law since 1906.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23925665]Chickens and turkeys aren't halal. [/QUOTE] where in the quran does it say that?

I was born and lived in Harrow until I was 6 :v:

it's a school in north london; everyone in the school is probably already muslim

[QUOTE=elitehakor;23925717]where in the quran does it say that?[/QUOTE] It's on the first page, they're land animals without external ears.

The problem here is not freedom of diet, but the thing that they restrict currently available food because of a foreign religion. That is over the top to me.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23925865]It's on the first page, they're land animals without external ears.[/QUOTE] You must be reading some other Qu'ran, because I sometimes eat in Chicken Cottage (it's not my proudest moment to admit that) and they're Halal [img]http://www.london-se1.co.uk/restaurants/images/060225_chickencottage.jpg[/img]