Harrow offers primary schools option to serve halal-only meat - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;23925865]It's on the first page, they're land animals without external ears.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that surah al-fatiha doesn't talk about halal and haram stop pulling things out of your ass

[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;23925566]Yeah it's not like Halal meat is artificial meat or something. It's just meat that was killed a certain way and blessed, so it really makes no difference to the average person.[/QUOTE] If it's done in a special way, it probably costs more. If a bunch of indian people came out and complained about beef in schools, would you stop serving beef? Seriously, religions can fuck off when it comes to affecting the diets of non-believers.

[QUOTE=Wayword;23926364]If it's done in a special way, it probably costs more. If a bunch of indian people came out and complained about beef in schools, would you stop serving beef? Seriously, religions can fuck off when it comes to affecting the diets of non-believers.[/QUOTE] Normally I'd agree with you but these children might not be allowed to eat food that isn't prepared in a Halal kitchen and their parents might pack insufficiently nutritious packed lunches. The wellbeing of children as a whole takes precedence over a primary school kid's right to be served pork in the refectory. Thinking about it, I can't even remember being served pig based food in Primary School - it tended to be poultry with the odd bit of lamb or beef.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23926438]Normally I'd agree with you but these children might not be allowed to eat food that isn't prepared in a Halal kitchen and their parents might pack insufficiently nutritious packed lunches. The wellbeing of children as a whole takes precedence over a primary school kid's right to be served pork in the refectory. Thinking about it, I can't even remember being served pig based food in Primary School - it tended to be poultry with the odd bit of lamb or beef.[/QUOTE] I saw ham sandwiches when i was in primary

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23926438]Normally I'd agree with you but these children might not be allowed to eat food that isn't prepared in a Halal kitchen and their parents might pack insufficiently nutritious packed lunches. The wellbeing of children as a whole takes precedence over a primary school kid's right to be served pork in the refectory. Thinking about it, I can't even remember being served pig based food in Primary School - it tended to be poultry with the odd bit of lamb or beef.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying, others shouldn't have to suffer with increased costs to suit the needs of the few. If you were really starving you'd probably eat the non-halal food. Also, there are always multi-vitamins if you are really concerned about nutrition.

[QUOTE=Wayword;23926512]I'm just saying, others shouldn't have to suffer with increased costs to suit the needs of the few. If you were really starving you'd probably eat the non-halal food. Also, there are always multi-vitamins if you are really concerned about nutrition.[/QUOTE] These aren't the needs of the few in Harrow, that's the whole point. I'd see what you were saying if Minil in Cumbria was petitioning to get the local village school to switch to Halal but this is Harrow. If most of the kids aren't able to eat the food there then something like this is a good move. As for "multi vitamins" - no, that's not a good idea. An unhealthy diet supplemented with multi vitamins is still an unhealthy diet. Children need good food while they're growing so they can be healthy and learn effectively. [editline]12:46AM[/editline] [QUOTE=elitehakor;23926470]I saw ham sandwiches when i was in primary[/QUOTE] That's true, but I figured this was more about the hot dinners.

I like my food without religious bull crap. And I'm religious....

[QUOTE=Baldr;23926990]I like my food without religious bull crap. And I'm religious....[/QUOTE] The kids aren't being made to say Grace, they're just being served food that was killed in a different way to normal and also no pig

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23927030]The kids aren't being made to say Grace, they're just being served food that was killed in a different way to normal and also no pig[/QUOTE] In the name of Allah you mean.

[QUOTE=elitehakor;23926189]I'm pretty sure that surah al-fatiha doesn't talk about halal and haram stop pulling things out of your ass[/QUOTE] First page of the thread.

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918660]This is what could not be consumed by a Muslim. Sounds like you guys are over reacting, the only thing this could possibly affect is no pork in schools and they could just as easily bullshit about how the animals were slaughtered. Plus pork at school is a bad idea in the first place[/QUOTE] It disturbs me how much Religion has control over certain aspects of their life. "Animals slaughtered in the name of Allah" not slaughter in the name of surviving? :sigh:

Typical stupid modern case of the majority conforming to the minority. Shouldn't it be the other way around in a democracy?

[QUOTE=Perfumly;23918710]Durr they are affecting my diet by not serving pork hurr durr[/QUOTE] You don't like pork, but others do. You restrict other peoples choices just because you don't like it? This whole idea sounds daft to me, not only will it cost the schools more money but no school in my personal believe should follow a specific religious belief or religious teaching - they should be primarily neutral and should not attempt to influence kids at that age. Not only that but modern society should not revolve around religion or try and please religion, I see religion like this specialist choice. I think a lot of Muslim people have got to accept in this situation is the world does not revolve around them and they must accept another countries standards and rules (especially in schools) and should not ask them to serve holy meat or ban certain foods because its against [I]their [/I]choice, that goes for all religions altogether. If they really want their kids to eat holy meat then they should supply the meat [B]themselves - [/B]because they just sound like cheap assholes to me who expect the schools to do it for them.

Yeah, they're cheap arseholes probably. This is about the children, who shouldn't be put in this situation but have been, so it's down to the schools to ensure that most kids get fed and if that means they make a dopey compromise with halal meat, it's not the end of the world. People are replying to this thread decrying the impact of religion and demanding six year olds be fed pork as if it was really important when it's just an approach that's trying to do best for the children. [editline]01:07AM[/editline] If this was a grown ups' refectory I'd be siding with you, but this is a primary school. They're not indoctrinating the children, they're just doing something to prevent halal meat being contaminated by non halal meat. It's a bit like if the school stopping using peanut butter if some kids were allergic to peanuts.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23927982] If this was a grown ups' refectory I'd be siding with you, but this is a primary school. They're not indoctrinating the children, they're just doing something to prevent halal meat being contaminated by non halal meat. It's a bit like if the school stopping using peanut butter if some kids were allergic to peanuts.[/QUOTE] Except in my schools the allergic kids did simply not eat peanuts, or avoided food that contained peanuts.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23927982]It's a bit like if the school stopping using peanut butter if some kids were allergic to peanuts.[/QUOTE] Contaminated? The reason why Peanut butter can be removed from a school menu is because a notable percentage of children are allergic to them, they can inflict bodily harm. No one has ever seizured because they ate a piece of meat which someone didn't say "Praise Allah" to.

People want to eat Halal-only meat, they now have the option to eat halal-only meat. People don't want to eat halal-only meat, they still have the option to eat normal meat. Above sums up the article. Freedom isn't getting limited here, people are just getting more options.

[QUOTE=Wayword;23926364]If it's done in a special way, it probably costs more. If a bunch of indian people came out and complained about beef in schools, would you stop serving beef? Seriously, religions can fuck off when it comes to affecting the diets of non-believers.[/QUOTE] Harrow [i]offers[/i] primary schools [i]option[/i] to serve halal-only meat. There is nothing wrong with offering this service. I don't see why the profanity is needed; let's keep the thread mature.

Down here we have different stores. Some served non-halal and some serve halal.

pfft...religion and its silly laws page king!

The same thing happened over here, but only for the Jews. I don't really mind. I miss those hot dog/corn dog things for breakfast though. [editline]07:42AM[/editline] And pork bacon. I still wonder why they serve pepperoni pizza though.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23928301]Contaminated? The reason why Peanut butter can be removed from a school menu is because a notable percentage of children are allergic to them, they can inflict bodily harm. No one has ever seizured because they ate a piece of meat which someone didn't say "Praise Allah" to.[/QUOTE] It's an ANALOGY about contamination.

[QUOTE=Jund;23933849]The same thing happened over here, but only for the Jews. I don't really mind. I miss those hot dog/corn dog things for breakfast though. [editline]07:42AM[/editline] And pork bacon. I still wonder why they serve pepperoni pizza though.[/QUOTE] I guess because if there's pork in the kitchen then nothing is Kosher there, but if there's meat and dairy products then it's considered Kosher as long as you don't eat them together, so non-Jews can still eat meat and dairy products together.

the thing is that a lot of islamic laws are just things people did a long time ago because they had to, and are no longer relevant

i would like to point out to whoever said it im p sure that chicken is halal i mean the muslim kids in my college ate at a mr cod with us (serves fish and chicken basic chippy) and they always had double chicken burgers so ...

[QUOTE=abcpea;23935955]the thing is that a lot of islamic laws are just things people did a long time ago because they had to, and are no longer relevant[/QUOTE] That's very true. It would be better for everyone if religious dietry restrictions were lifted but we all know that isn't going to happen.

It's not like you can tell the differance. They could say it's halal meat when it's not, you wouldn't know.