Subway removes bacon and ham from UK branches and introduces Halal-only meat
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Fuck me, most companies will go to the ends of the earth just so these bloody Muslims don't scream racist at the top of their fucking lungs.
[QUOTE=Mr.95;44686951]Actions like this set a dangerous precedent[/QUOTE]
Yeah man, stores listening to demand of their customers, nasty shit. I am pretty much afraid to leave my home already.
[QUOTE=Bobie;44687067]well its a shame that it has to be like that but incapacitating the animal before it has its throat slit isnt very different whatsoever to the standard slaughter process in terms of ethics.
its also unusual however that a lot of people in the comments section think UKIP will stop this; UKIP want to get rid of the eu legislation that would allow halal butchers to slaughter animals without stunning them.[/QUOTE]
people who read the daily mail tend to take things at face value
This isn't news at all, they've been doing this for ages, and most places that do it have 2 stores. For example, Solihull has one subway selling Halal, then a 2nd subway barely a 3 minute walk away selling bacon/ham. It's not an inconvenience to anyone at all. Daily mail nonsense as always.
[QUOTE=ironman17;44687072]Well that's kinda stupid, in the sense of taking it too far at least. How about instead of taking away the ham and bacon, you keep the ham and bacon whilst also having the halal stuff as options for Islamic folks, who for some strange reason are opposed to pork and blood.
Let the "believers" wallow in their sun-god dogmatics, by all means, but if the dogmatics end up affecting the people who do not buy into their delusions, then the joke is going too far. Just because the halal option is there, that doesn't mean it should be the only option available just because they think that Allah frowns upon it. The Dweller in the Cube has no true power over man, because it doesn't even exist. It's just a very strange idea, like many very strange ideas in the world today.[/QUOTE]
You don't like the product the particular Subway is selling, you won't buy from them. It's as easy as that.
Subway has determined that these particular branches will be more profitable if they cater to people with particular preference plus the people who won't give a shit. They weren't forced to do it, they weren't threatened into doing it. They did it purely out of a business decision. You don't like it? Find a new supplier.
If the brand new local subway does this hear in essex, canvey island I will flip.
Not even like theres really any muslims about
[QUOTE=Mr.95;44686951]Actions like this set a dangerous precedent[/QUOTE]
Reporting like this encourages anti-minority sentiment, that's basically why it's done
Typical Daily Mail behaviour
[QUOTE=Puni;44687110]If the brand new local subway does this hear in essex, canvey island I will flip.
Not even like theres really any muslims about[/QUOTE]
Which is why your particular brand new local subway probably will not be one of the selected for this.
[QUOTE=Bobie;44687067]well its a shame that it has to be like that but incapacitating the animal before it has its throat slit isnt very different whatsoever to the standard slaughter process in terms of ethics.
its also unusual however that a lot of people in the comments section think UKIP will stop this; UKIP want to get rid of the eu legislation that would allow halal butchers to slaughter animals without stunning them.[/QUOTE]
Atleast Western slughter methods are quick and the animal doesn't unnecessarily suffer, usually just a beheading afaik.
I know Ukip wouldn't do anything to stop this because no one will as for some reason it would be politically unpalatable to want to stop such a cruel practice. I'm sure it'd be outlawed if people saw it as a move to prevent cruelty and not a deliberate attack on Muslims which is what people probably would currently see it as. It's not Islamophobic to have problems with Islamic practises.
I kind of doubt this, I can't find any other sources.. Plus it's Daily Mail after all!
[QUOTE=Puni;44687110]If the brand new local subway does this [B]hear in essex, canvey island I will flip.[/B]
Not even like theres really any muslims about[/QUOTE]
'hear in essex'
fuck
its shit like this that makes me sad to be from essex. when you say flip, are you going to ram your pimped out green citroen saxo with neon lights through the subway doors or just complain on the internet about it?
[QUOTE=The mouse;44687123]Atleast Western slughter methods are quick and the animal doesn't unnecessarily suffer, usually just a beheading afaik.
I know Ukip wouldn't do anything to stop this because no one will as for some reason it would be politically unpalatable to want to stop such a cruel practice. I'm sure it'd be outlawed if people saw it as a move to prevent cruelty and not a deliberate attack on Muslims which is what people probably would currently see it as.[/QUOTE]
id love to get rid of all non-instant slaughter methods but its simply unrealistic. getting rid of halal meat would just create a meat underground and we already have enough underground tobacco, alcohol and drug practices with the sky-high excise taxes and ridiculous classifications
Besides, in India they don't sell beef burgers at McDonalds or Burger King, nor is it an option for any of the fast food chains, but people like them nonetheless (I miss Beef Quarter Pounders though, but that's another matter :c) All we get are chicken or Fish and a lot of vegetarian options (on account of a lot of the population being Vegetarian). FOr instance, one of the most popular things at McDonalds is a potato cutlet with some bread, and that's it and they do well.
It was corporate suicide for them to try and pull this off nationwide, but I can kind of understand their need to minimize their losses by doing this the way they are.
[QUOTE=The mouse;44686962]Why does no-one see this as a problem?
Halal is a pretty creul way of slaughtering animals even by our standards and for what? So that Muslims won't have their feelings hurt...?[/QUOTE]
I would buy that argument if there weren't already [I]massive[/I] issues with the way a lot of meat production is handled and nobody still gives a shit.
[url=http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/subway-adopts-sharia-law-185-uk-outlets-halal-meats-only-policy-1446781]This site[/url] says its for 185 outlets and [url=http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jan/22/subway-to-double-outlets-uk-ireland]this says[/url] there are more then 1700 outlets. So I don't feel this a big deal.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;44687128]I kind of doubt this, I can't find any other sources.. Plus it's Daily Mail after all![/QUOTE]
Source from Subway themselves: [url]http://www.subway.co.uk/media/news/halal-stores.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=Bobie;44687131]'hear in essex'
fuck
its shit like this that makes me sad to be from essex. when you say flip, are you going to ram your pimped out green citroen saxo with neon lights through the subway doors or just complain on the internet about it?[/QUOTE]
where can i buy a horse like yours? yours is pretty high
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;44687146]where can i buy a horse like yours? yours is pretty high[/QUOTE]
u want me 2 nut u geez? ill fuckin ave u rite now ill smack any muzzers in this thread
[QUOTE=The mouse;44687123]Atleast Western slughter methods are quick and the animal doesn't unnecessarily suffer, usually just a beheading afaik.
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The method of killing the animal is pretty much the smallest problem with the entire meat production system.
UKIP.
[QUOTE=Killerkid;44687144][url=http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/subway-adopts-sharia-law-185-uk-outlets-halal-meats-only-policy-1446781]This site[/url] says its for 185 outlets and [url=http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jan/22/subway-to-double-outlets-uk-ireland]this says[/url] there are more then 1700 outlets. So I don't feel this a big deal.
Source from Subway themselves: [url]http://www.subway.co.uk/media/news/halal-stores.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]
Subway didn't say anything about REMOVING all the other meats, just introducing Halal meats alongside them.
I smell bullshit from Daily Mail.
Why is the UK so pro muslim again? Did I miss something?
Not just this article but I hear a lot about the fact that things change in the UK so Muslims don't feel "opressed".
Allah bless the sultan
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44687164]UKIP.[/QUOTE]
'nigel farage pledges to buy subway and change back all halal stores if he wins election'
what makes anyone think ukip will actually have [i][b]any[/b][/i] say in this?
[QUOTE=The Combine;44687176]Why is the UK so pro muslim again? Did I miss something?
Not just this article but I hear a lot about the fact that things change in the UK so Muslims don't feel "opressed".[/QUOTE]
a) This isn't even the case about feelings of Muslims or anything. Muslims want to buy Muslim food. Local food sellers realize they can make a buck there if they supply for that particular demand. It's as simple as that.
b) Lately, people here love to post more and more wankshit Daily Mail yellow journalism and it's still allowed for some reason.
[editline]30th April 2014[/editline]
Also, what a way of wasting the thread number 1390000. Seriously, good job.
[QUOTE=Bobie;44687184]'nigel farage pledges to buy subway and change back all halal stores if he wins election'
what makes anyone think ukip will actually have [i][b]any[/b][/i] say in this?[/QUOTE]
It was the labour/conservative government's initial bend-over-backwards stance for the last 5 years that has led to all this ridiculous pandering in the guise of 'political correctness'.
The real scandal is that Meatball Marinaras have gone up by 4 bob >:(
[QUOTE=Hardsurface;44687228]It was the labour/conservative government's initial bend-over-backwards stance for the last 5 years that has led to all this ridiculousness in the guise of 'political correctness'.[/QUOTE]
you don't seem to understand. subway has nothing to do with the government. there is no 'shadow subway minister', there is no department of sandwiches, or institution of subs. subway is a multinational corporation that understands profit and maximising said profit.
subway will literally cater to any ethnicity if they demand one thing in specific; and if a subway is located in a primarily muslim area, why the hell should they provide meats they [i]know[/i] aren't going to be purchased?
this thread wouldnt exist if they were catering to the jewish minorities (like mentioned before) were being catered to. why care when its the dirty stinkin muzzers?
Islamification.
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[QUOTE=lazyguy;44687253]The real scandal is that Meatball Marinaras have gone up by 4 bob >:([/QUOTE]
its 3.20 for a 6 inch or 5.20 for a footlong. where were you getting a meatball marinara for 1.20? (or -1.20)
[QUOTE=ironman17;44687072]Let the "believers" wallow in their sun-god dogmatics, by all means, but if the dogmatics end up affecting the people who do not buy into their delusions, then the joke is going too far. Just because the halal option is there, that doesn't mean it should be the only option available just because they think that Allah frowns upon it. The Dweller in the Cube has no true power over man, because it doesn't even exist. It's just a very strange idea, like many very strange ideas in the world today.[/QUOTE]
At least try to conceal your ignorance m
[quote]Traditionally halal butchers cut the throats of animals while they are fully conscious. Some halal butchers now practice pre-stunning but this is not permitted by some Islamic scholars.
In Britain, killing an animal while they are fully conscious is illegal, but the law gives special exemption, on religious grounds, to Muslim and Jewish meat producers.
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