Subway removes bacon and ham from UK branches and introduces Halal-only meat - Polidicks

What the fuckity shite? Where's the logic in this choice: it was doing no harm [I]as an option[/I], just have both if you're going to capitulate to these sort of demands. [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers;44695787]Way more human than shooting a metal rod into their brains, which more often than not doesn't kills them instantly and then causes them a lot of pain. Unlike with halal slaughtering where the animal doesn't feels anything anymore.[/QUOTE] No, you're wrong. Halal is not humane, and certainly wouldn't be more humane than the electrical rod. Cutting the neck and letting it slowly bleed out as opposed to a quick, painless death? No argument.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;44697784]What the fuckity shite? Where's the logic in this choice: it was doing no harm [I]as an option[/I], just have both if you're going to capitulate to these sort of demands. [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] No, you're wrong. Halal is not humane, and certainly wouldn't be more humane than the electrical rod. Cutting the neck and letting it slowly bleed out as opposed to a quick, painless death? No argument.[/QUOTE] Read the entire thread, its in less than 10% of stores. Most likely in areas where the non halal products are not selling anyway.

So this means I can still have my meatball sub? I don't see the problem then.

how is bleeding from the jugular slow?

I'd be willing to bet you guys arguing about humane ways to kill animals only care about humane treatment of farm animals when you can use it to argue something else.

To be honest, I genuinely have no clue why we ARE bending over backwards for Muslims. This is absolutely fucking ridiculous, they're going to lose so many sales purely because people have their set sandwiches as those main ones, and there is no fucking way I am eating halal meat, so Subway are making a very dumb decision.

[QUOTE=Erasus;44698608]To be honest, I genuinely have no clue why we ARE bending over backwards for Muslims. This is absolutely fucking ridiculous, they're going to lose so many sales purely because people have their set sandwiches as those main ones, and there is no fucking way I am eating halal meat, so Subway are making a very dumb decision.[/QUOTE] They are not going to lose any money at all, they are making a very small number of stores Halal only in areas where they are most likely not selling the non halal meats anyway. This is a business decision and not bending over backwards for Muslims.

Halal meat at Subway? Oh no, UK is now the Caliphate of Britain! :v:

[QUOTE=uzikus;44698663]Halal meat at Subway? Oh no, UK is now the Caliphate of Britain! :v:[/QUOTE] every nation that islam conquers they first build a victory mosque and second replace all fast food meats with halal it's been that way since muhammed

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44691457]yeah and i can go to the grocery store and just shop in the kosher aisle and im safe that meat can keep for quite a while and they can just buy in lower quantities why not have both[/QUOTE] okay, i work at subway. meat in the hot wells like the meatballs last 4 hours before we have to throw it out. cold stuff like turkey and ham last maybe a day. i'm still not on inventory duty so i don't have to memorize the shelf life of all the meat, but i can assure you that none of it can last more than a week. now, imagine a store buying twice as much meat, both halal and half regular. that would be a fuckton of extra money that they don't wanna spend, and would be unnecessary confusion. i'd imagine that the workers would fuck up and accidentally use regular meat instead of halal (or vice virsa but they taste so similar that they won't even know), which is a lawsuit (or a dozen) waiting to happen. now imagine the other possible "solution": buying half regular, half halal. "sorry, we can't make your sandwich with halal meat because we have half of the meat we'd go through in a day." remind me, what's wrong with replacing the regular meat with halal meat in [I]stores that are in areas with a fuckton of muslims?[/I] most fast food chains do this around the world, sorry if having different meat offends you?

[QUOTE=Valnar;44698340]I'd be willing to bet you guys arguing about humane ways to kill animals only care about humane treatment of farm animals when you can use it to argue something else.[/QUOTE] "you only pretend to have morals so you can debate" see how much of a dick that makes you sound

I just realised; I'm almost certain subway has some kind of veiled interest in UKIP. I don't see why else they'd pull something like this (because I doubt on it's own it's a profitable move), and it's [I]exactly[/I] the kind of public outcry that gets people a hardon for that party.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;44701937]I just realised; I'm almost certain subway has some kind of veiled interest in UKIP. I don't see why else they'd pull something like this (because I doubt on it's own it's a profitable move), and it's [I]exactly[/I] the kind of public outcry that gets people a hardon for that party.[/QUOTE] Or it is profitable for them because A) they get muslims in muslim areas to go to subway and B) they don't have to throw away food Occams razor applies here

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44701758]"you only pretend to have morals so you can debate" see how much of a dick that makes you sound[/QUOTE] Ok then, how often do you argue or do something about improving conditions for farm animals?

and also what would be your opinions regarding hunting

The fuck is this shit?!

[QUOTE=Lemonschooner;44695547]Are you even aware of the level of ignorance that's spewing out of you?[/QUOTE] Frankly, almost any religion is formed primarily of ignorance. The last person you should be accusing of ignorance is the one pointing that out. [QUOTE=Lemonschooner;44695629]Seems like a lot of the shit people are posting in here is just "BUT DOGMA" and "DISGUSTING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS" and nobody seems to fucking know what halal slaughtering methods are, or what is/isn't humane. Great to know that FP's bandwagon is well-maintained and running strong.[/QUOTE] And after accusing many people of ignorance, you then assume Facepunch is a hivemind. You're a shitlord and you need to stop posting. I don't even pretend to tolerate religion anymore. It's retarded shit like slitting a live animal's throat and letting it bleed out while you say prayers to an invisible man in the sky that makes me hate it. If some guy does that to an animal for fun, it's cruelty, but if you do it for religion, it's totally fine? And where does dumb shit like halal meat and not eating seafood come from, anyway? Simple: in the past, pork was hard to preserve properly and people had horribly retarded ideas on how to properly handle food. [B]That's it.[/B] That is the formation of ideas like this. And very nearly all of faith is formed on this basis of ignorance. I find it funny that people will happily crucify Sterling (the NBA team owner) for his racism founded on ignorance, but believing in other retarded shit based on complete ignornace, like cutting off foreskins without cause or the aforementioned halal meat, is totally fine. Even more impressive is [B]you[/B] are the ignorant one when you condemn their retarded and barbaric practices. Fuck religion and fuck willful ignorance.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44701758]"you only pretend to have morals so you can debate" see how much of a dick that makes you sound[/QUOTE] people have already said stuff along the same lines but fuck it If this is where you've drawn the line with humane treatment of animals in food production, you need to take a long hard think about what you're really mad about there are far worse things done to animals constantly. I mean I'm fine with it personally because I've thought about my priorities long and hard, but if you're just getting angry at Halal and not all of the other animal living conditions, it seems pretty suspect

You know, its really funny that people are talking about ignorance and about halal being inhumane. Because it shows that you haven't taken even a slight bit of effort in figuring out what actually is happening to the slaughtered animal. The only difference between the halal meat subway uses and non-halal meat is that a prayer is said on the halal meat. Other than that it is the same exact meat that was slaughtered the same way. First, Subway says that they only get animals that were stunned prior to slaughter. [url]http://www.subway.co.uk/menu/halal.aspx[/url] Second, animals are already slaughtered by cutting their neck. Thats just how the slaughterhouses operate. They stun the animal either with a metal rod or electricity and then cut the animal's neck to bleed it to death. [url]http://www.hsa.org.uk/faqs/general[/url] This whole story is nothing but a piece of bullshit meant to mislead people and stir up hatred.

[QUOTE=Valnar;44707170]You know, its really funny that people are talking about ignorance and about halal being inhumane. Because it shows that you haven't taken even a slight bit of effort in figuring out what actually is happening to the slaughtered animal. The only difference between the halal meat subway uses and non-halal meat is that a prayer is said on the halal meat. Other than that it is the same exact meat that was slaughtered the same way. First, Subway says that they only get animals that were stunned prior to slaughter. [url]http://www.subway.co.uk/menu/halal.aspx[/url] Second, animals are already slaughtered by cutting their neck. Thats just how the slaughterhouses operate. They stun the animal either with a metal rod or electricity and then cut the animal's neck to bleed it to death. [url]http://www.hsa.org.uk/faqs/general[/url] This whole story is nothing but a piece of bullshit meant to mislead people and stir up hatred.[/QUOTE] Halal has the animals unstunned. either way, it's not like you're arguing from an actual moral high ground

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44707356]Halal has the animals unstunned. either way, it's not like you're arguing from an actual moral high ground[/QUOTE] did you even bother reading the link from subway I posted? [quote]All our suppliers comply with EU animal welfare legislation as a minimum and we require suppliers of Halal products to adopt the stunning of animals prior to their slaughter. All Halal meats are certified by the appropriate Halal authorities.[/quote] Also, according to the guardian even, most meat in the UK in 2004 that was certified for halal was stunned prior to slaughter. (which links to an RSPCA fact sheet) [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2010/sep/20/halal-meat-the-truth[/URL]

This really makes me want to buy some subway today. I'm thinking the pastrami melt. What do you guys like to buy at subway? And as for the topic at hand I believe it is silly. Subway is a private company so they can do what they feel is best for their customers, but I still think it's a little silly.

[QUOTE=seano12;44707432]This really makes me want to buy some subway today. I'm thinking the pastrami melt. What do you guys like to buy at subway? And as for the topic at hand I believe it is silly. Subway is a private company so they can do what they feel is best for their customers, but I still think it's a little silly.[/QUOTE] I usually get a BMT on herb and cheese bread with lettuce, onions and southwest sauce. I used to get tomato as well but it tends to cool down the sandwich too fast and they barely have any flavour anyway.

[QUOTE=seano12;44707432]This really makes me want to buy some subway today. I'm thinking the pastrami melt. What do you guys like to buy at subway? And as for the topic at hand I believe it is silly. Subway is a private company so they can do what they feel is best for their customers, but I still think it's a little silly.[/QUOTE] pork ribwich everytime... wait... pork.... I CHANGE MY MIND STOP ISLAMIFICAAAATIIOOONNN

[QUOTE=seano12;44707432]This really makes me want to buy some subway today. I'm thinking the pastrami melt. What do you guys like to buy at subway? And as for the topic at hand I believe it is silly. Subway is a private company so they can do what they feel is best for their customers, but I still think it's a little silly.[/QUOTE] Toasted footlong ham and pepperjack on the italian herb and cheese bread. Load it up with most of the veggies, two different sauces and salt and pepper. Used to live next to a Subway where the girl there made it fucking [b]perfect[/b]. Too bad I'll never get that sandwich again, I moved away and she hated her job so she probably quit and went elsewhere.

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;44705034]people have already said stuff along the same lines but fuck it If this is where you've drawn the line with humane treatment of animals in food production, you need to take a long hard think about what you're really mad about there are far worse things done to animals constantly. I mean I'm fine with it personally because I've thought about my priorities long and hard, but if you're just getting angry at Halal and not all of the other animal living conditions, it seems pretty suspect[/QUOTE] To be honest, you can't know whether or not he's fine with all the other animals living conditions. He might go to every extent (other than being a vegetarian) to make sure that the animals receive proper treatment for all we know. The thing with Halal is that while it can be a pretty effective method of killing an animal if done right, it's often botched, especially in parts of eastern Europe where the inspections aren't as stringent or frequent. I'm not against halal (and I have nothing against Subway going halal-only on a few locations), but it [I]is[/I] in many cases worse than a bolt to the head.