Court: Illegal immigrants can't have guns - Polidicks

[QUOTE=cornndog;35881088]Yes. We are the shitstains. You say anyone who isn't a skilled worker is worthless. If you can't understand what is wrong with that then you have nothing to say.[/QUOTE] Jesus fucking christ learn to read. From the viewpoint of the economy, the government, and employers, those with no skill and no education are worthless. Did I say they were worthless as human beings? No. Did I say they were worthless as people? No. I said they were worthless as a labour force and would not contribute.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881110]Electronics Knowledge, the ability to put together a circuit board, programming knowledge, the ability to build and maintain electronics, the ability to dismantle and troubleshoot electronics, general customer service, etc. etc. etc.[/QUOTE] Oh whoop dee fucking do. That's not a skill. That's a menial task. Skilled labor is labor which has attended a 4-year+ institution. You are unskilled. You are a drain. You don't deserve to be an American.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881096]I don't. I'm not the one who said "the law states that US citizens come first." (it doesn't)[/QUOTE] I haven't said that either, but you made a very simple request: provide the appropriate legislation that defined illegal immigration, and I've done that. I have yet to make any claims that US citizens come first as defined by the law, but it is undeniably the case that they "come first" in legal decisions (although not as a basis of one particular law that said, "Americans are better than everyone else."). See: this very thread's OP.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881132]Oh whoop dee fucking do. That's not a skill. That's a menial task. Skilled labor is labor which has attended a 4-year+ institution. You are unskilled. You are a drain. You don't deserve to be an American.[/QUOTE] What do you do?

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881132]Oh whoop dee fucking do. That's not a skill. That's a menial task. Skilled labor is labor which has attended a 4-year+ institution. You are unskilled. You are a drain. You don't deserve to be an American.[/QUOTE] Just fucking [I]stop.[/I] Jeeeeeez [I]All of you! Just fucking staaaaaap![/I]

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881126]Jesus fucking christ learn to read. From the viewpoint of the economy, the government, and employers, those with no skill and no education are worthless. Did I say they were worthless as human beings? No. Did I say they were worthless as people? No. I said they were worthless as a labour force and would not contribute.[/QUOTE] We do not dictate social policy below fiscal policy. Rights are rights, pendejo. We go bankrupt before we violate them.

[QUOTE=faze;35881143]What do you do?[/QUOTE] I fight crime.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881126]Jesus fucking christ learn to read. From the viewpoint of the economy, the government, and employers, those with no skill and no education are worthless. Did I say they were worthless as human beings? No. Did I say they were worthless as people? No. I said they were worthless as a labour force and would not contribute.[/QUOTE] They aren't worthless. Anyone can learn new skills. Therefore, anyone should be allowed in.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881154]I fight crime.[/QUOTE] AKA troll. I got it.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881132]Oh whoop dee fucking do. That's not a skill. That's a menial task. Skilled labor is labor which has attended a 4-year+ institution. You are unskilled. You are a drain. You don't deserve to be an American.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that the dude meant skilled labor as a labor that requires a skill, not whatever the laws defines it as.

[QUOTE=Thy Reaper;35881158]They aren't worthless. Anyone can learn new skills. Therefore, anyone should be allowed in.[/QUOTE] Please define "anyone". (Columbian drug lord?)

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881132]Oh whoop dee fucking do. That's not a skill. That's a menial task. Skilled labor is labor which has attended a 4-year+ institution. You are unskilled. You are a drain. You don't deserve to be an American.[/QUOTE] I'd like to see you fucking build a circuit board from scratch, or rebuild a fried computer/cell phone. Go ahead. Try. Fucking do it. Can you? I bet not. So shut your fucking mouth

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35881163]I'm pretty sure that the dude meant skilled labor as a labor that requires a skill, not whatever the laws defines it as.[/QUOTE] I don't give a fuck what HE meant. I'M the one who said "it's impossible to get into the US currently without a marketable skill," and "marketable skill" is recognized as bachelor's degree or above.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881154]I fight crime.[/QUOTE] So you're unemployed. Good job you've lost all credibility. You are the drain.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881126]Did I say they were worthless as human beings? No. Did I say they were worthless as people? No. I said they were worthless as a labour force and would not contribute.[/QUOTE] Actually yes you said exactly that, and then in an attempt at back pedaling went and edited your post

[QUOTE=faze;35881143]What do you do?[/QUOTE] He's probably not gonna respond to that because "I don't have to prove shit" because "I'm not the one saying X" Oh look he responded. "I fight crime" Oh wait is this one of those "blanket statements" I heard about earlier?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881126] From the viewpoint of the economy, the government, and employers, those with no skill and no education are worthless.[/QUOTE] nope, that is not the viewpoint of the government. nothing in the constitution nor the bill of rights says that you are worthless if you don't have skill or education, and seeing we're talking about rights, that renders your tepid argument completely moot. and unskilled labour is extremely valuable. obviously you have no conception of how much agriculture is actually in the US.

[QUOTE=wizardsbane;35881171]Please define "anyone". (Columbian drug lord?)[/QUOTE] Columbian drug lords are otherwise violating crime and would be arrested like a citizen that is acting as a crime lord. Anyone who is otherwise free to travel (including an as-yet free Columbian drug lord) should be allowed to move here. If they're breaking laws that citizens must obey, they get arrested like any citizen. Where they come from shouldn't matter.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881182]I don't give a fuck what HE meant. I'M the one who said "it's impossible to get into the US currently without a marketable skill," and "marketable skill" is recognized as bachelor's degree or above.[/QUOTE] Uh, excuse me, no. A 'marketable skill' is any skill, regardless of how it was obtained, that builds desirability on a resume or other form of application, for which you set yourself out against the rest. [editline]8th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=James*;35881193]Actually yes you said exactly that, and then in an attempt at back pedaling went and edited your post[/QUOTE] No, I did not say that. I did not say they were worthless human beings.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881184]So you're unemployed. Good job you've lost all credibility. You are the drain.[/QUOTE] Oh no, the one arguing for less stress on illegal immigration is a drain on society woe is me meanwhile the one who says all unskilled labor doesn't belong in this country is certainly contributing with those circuit boards that a robot could be fixing.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881201]Uh, excuse me, no. A 'marketable skill' is any skill, regardless of how it was obtained, that builds desirability on a resume or other form of application, for which you set yourself out against the rest.[/QUOTE] So, [I]everyone[/I] basically?

[QUOTE=thisispain;35881196]nope, that is not the viewpoint of the government. nothing in the constitution nor the bill of rights says that you are worthless if you don't have skill or education, and seeing we're talking about rights, that renders your tepid argument completely moot. and unskilled labour is extremely valuable. obviously you have no conception of how much agriculture is actually in the US.[/QUOTE] A nice outline for people who haven't read the damn Constitution, but are still talking about it: [URL]http://voices.yahoo.com/the-purpose-us-government-per-constitution-283413.html[/URL] Gotta be quite stupid not to have read the preamble :D

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881210]Oh no, the one arguing for less stress on illegal immigration is a drain on society woe is me meanwhile the one who says all unskilled labor doesn't belong in this country is certainly contributing with those circuit boards that a robot could be fixing.[/QUOTE] What is your job title?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881201]Uh, excuse me, no. A 'marketable skill' is any skill, regardless of how it was obtained, that builds desirability on a resume or other form of application, for which you set yourself out against the rest.[/QUOTE] Skills are not recognized by the immigration authorities without degrees to back them up, pal.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881201] No, I did not say that. I did not say they were worthless human beings.[/QUOTE] Aaaaactually you said "worthless people"...

[QUOTE=Lankist;35880680]Already explained this. They would, if we didn't require citizenship to be proven in order to prevent voter fraud.[/QUOTE] Sorry. I had not read the entire thread before replying to your post.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35880824] As I've stated before we do not need additional unskilled people milling around adding to the ever expanding pool of worthless people[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35880824]worthless people.[/QUOTE] Your right you didn't say they were worthless human beings you said they were worthless people. Meaning they could still provide supple nutrients for our people burgers.

[QUOTE=Lankist;35881182]I don't give a fuck what HE meant. I'M the one who said "it's impossible to get into the US currently without a marketable skill," and "marketable skill" is recognized as bachelor's degree or above.[/QUOTE] What do you mean you don't care what he meant in his argument? It isn't about what he says, it's about what he means to say, debating is a clash of ideas, not of words.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35881201]No, I did not say that. I did not say they were worthless human beings. [/QUOTE] You specifically used the words "worthless people"

[QUOTE=faze;35881162]AKA troll. I got it.[/QUOTE] Or you could, you know, take his post literally. He's a lawyer if I remember correctly. But whatever, I guess it's easier to just call anyone who opposes you a troll in an effort to disregard his opinions.