• Culling campaign: 700 stray dogs poisoned in Pakistan's Karachi
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50834385]Honestly, the better method for dealing with strays is to hunt them with guns. Most people have a problem with this, but it's a far safer method compared to just putting chicken meat with cyanide tablets around the streets. The main problem with this isn't even that it's not effective, it's too effective. You can end up killing someones actual pet which is just wandering around near their house or you'll end up killing various species of birds that were looking for a quick meal.[/QUOTE] Never change, friend In fact I think if the strays are used to humans, then hunting them down with guns is going to be easy. Maybe even easier and cleaner than poisoning. I don't know much about bullet types, but we're gonna need a bullet that causes the least amount of damage and contamination to anything that we can use or sell later. Every last resourceful fragment of the strays should be used.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;50835138]PETA the most infamous group of animal activists known to man euthanise millions of unwanted pets.[/QUOTE] That is the [I]only[/I] reason I simpathize with PeTA - hundreds and hundreds of unwanted cats eventually have to be euthanized, for instance. So yea, in that regard, they have the right idea.
I could think of worse ways to die than poisoning, At least they weren't hunted down and captured to suffer though inhumane meat-processing.
I think it's important to take a look at the source of the problem. I mean, you've got starving dogs with diseases, and I could be wrong and will definitely need to do some more research on this, but I'd imagine that one of the reasons this issue continues is that animal shelters and etc aren't big enough or don't have sufficient funding to take care of all these dogs by providing medicine or food. If a ton of people were funding them a lot of money, that could solve the problem (Although, the majority don't seem to care all that much about non-human animals enough to fund those shelters, so that's another problem that at least needs some attention). You could also probably leave out a shit ton of food for dogs to eat at various posts around the country, though I don't know how well that would turn out. Am I sounding too much like an ideas guy here?
[QUOTE=Lolkork;50838445]Good riddance.[/QUOTE] Seriously? Culls are a necessary evil but that's a pretty heartless response to hundreds of animals being killed regardless of the circumstance.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50836789]That is the [I]only[/I] reason I simpathize with PeTA - hundreds and hundreds of unwanted cats eventually have to be euthanized, for instance. So yea, in that regard, they have the right idea.[/QUOTE] Except you know when they raid people's front/backyards to steal and kill their pets.
I hope it was a quick poison. I've seen what rat poison does to rats and that is extremely inhumane.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50834385]Honestly, the better method for dealing with strays is to hunt them with guns. Most people have a problem with this, but it's a far safer method compared to just putting chicken meat with cyanide tablets around the streets. The main problem with this isn't even that it's not effective, it's too effective. You can end up killing someones actual pet which is just wandering around near their house or you'll end up killing various species of birds that were looking for a quick meal.[/QUOTE] nah i'm okay with not having 700 dogs bleeding all over the place
What even happens to these dead strays? Are they utilized in any way? I sure hope so. [editline]7th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mattk50;50841549]Except you know when they raid people's front/backyards to steal and kill their pets.[/QUOTE] Must have been some real nasty households then..
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50843940]What even happens to these dead strays? Are they utilized in any way? I sure hope so. [/QUOTE] It probably depends on what they were poisoned with. If it was a heavy metal poison then they probably can't be used for anything. If it was a warfarin-type poison it might be okay for fertiliser or something.
[QUOTE=Jund;50842006]nah i'm okay with not having 700 dogs bleeding all over the place[/QUOTE] Blood can be easily cleaned, rapid depopulation of local wildlife can take up to a decade to fix.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50846797]Blood can be easily cleaned, rapid depopulation of local wildlife can take up to a decade to fix.[/QUOTE] Yo guns arent the solution to every problem. If you seriously think a massive dog hunt would be a smart thing to do in a densely populated city then you're a fool
[QUOTE=download;50846208]It probably depends on what they were poisoned with. If it was a heavy metal poison then they probably can't be used for anything. If it was a warfarin-type poison it might be okay for fertiliser or something.[/QUOTE] Yeah indeed, it must depend on what kinda poison they used. Then there's also the ethical factor, was the poison some nasty stuff that caused a lot of extra suffering too? Sooo all this considered, hunting the strays down with guns wouldn't have been [I]that[/I] foolish of an idea. [editline]8th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kyle902;50847008]Yo guns arent the solution to every problem. If you seriously think a massive dog hunt would be a smart thing to do in a densely populated city then you're a fool[/QUOTE] If the strays are used to humans (which they likely are), then I don't see much problems. Few public safety issues to pay extra attention to, that's it. Plus the above thing, you don't even know what kinda poison they used, and how badly contaminated the strays are now if they can be used as fertilizer, etc.
[QUOTE=Skerion;50837782]I think it's important to take a look at the source of the problem. I mean, you've got starving dogs with diseases, and I could be wrong and will definitely need to do some more research on this, but I'd imagine that one of the reasons this issue continues is that animal shelters and etc aren't big enough or don't have sufficient funding to take care of all these dogs by providing medicine or food. If a ton of people were funding them a lot of money, that could solve the problem (Although, the majority don't seem to care all that much about non-human animals enough to fund those shelters, so that's another problem that at least needs some attention). You could also probably leave out a shit ton of food for dogs to eat at various posts around the country, though I don't know how well that would turn out. Am I sounding too much like an ideas guy here?[/QUOTE] I used to work at an animal shelter and you're partially on the right track. Yes animal shelters aren't usually big enough nor have enough funding, but that isn't the root of the problem. It's people not spaying and neutering their animals. If people did that we wouldn't have massive over population. We euthanize at least a hundred cats and dogs every month, because we literally just didn't have the space for all the animals that came in. And then you have no kill shelters, but those are just as bad because they only accept animals they think can be adopted. So if you have an unwanted breed or a sick animal they'll usually turn you away. It's a business model for people that only adopt animals that do not understand anything about animal problems.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50833130]I can't take "activists shouldn't really [I]do[/I] anything but complain" seriously. I mean that goes against pretty much most historical examples of activism where people actually did things to initiate change.[/QUOTE] Exactly, the reason why I don't get into certain issues is because I cannot provide an alternative.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50843940]Must have been some real nasty households then..[/QUOTE][URL="http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/maya/"] Nope.[/URL]
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