• Steve Bannon Is Making Sure There’s No White House Paper Trail, Says Intel Source
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[QUOTE=J!NX;51753601]I'm not sure about his assosiates, but Trump doesn't even have the intelligence to destroy the US. trump is just too fucking stupid to cause anything too permanent from happening. I mean yeah the POTUS isn't all powerful of course, but neither are his assosiates[/QUOTE] I'm honestly more worried about Bannon at this point. At first he just seemed like he was shaping the rhetoric but now he's getting put onto security councils and shit...
[QUOTE=J!NX;51753601]I'm not sure about his assosiates, but Trump doesn't even have the intelligence to destroy the US. trump is just too fucking stupid to cause anything too permanent from happening. I mean yeah the POTUS isn't all powerful of course, but neither are his assosiates[/QUOTE] Trump's a puppet for the Russian Government, and for Bannon, who is pulling his strings. If you've ever read the man's writing before, almost everything Trump has done so far is pure Bannon.
[QUOTE=Judas;51753226]I cant believe the judicial and legislative branches are just letting this stuff fly so easily, do they seriously not realize that trump's regime is going to strip them of their power next? [img]http://i.imgur.com/yYOGg63.png[/img][/QUOTE] We need to remove Trump's government as soon as possible. By force if necessary. This goes against everything America stands for and we should not take it lying down.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;51753610]We need to remove Trump's government as soon as possible. By force if necessary. This goes against everything America stands for and we should not take it lying down.[/QUOTE] We need to [i]wait[/i], IMO. The last thing that we need right now is a fucking Reichstag fire. It's still too early, and if we're lucky they might drain what political capital he has before they get the spark they're presumably looking for. Keeping the Trump admin's policy unpopular and protested is the best course of action until they either do something [i]truly[/i] heinous or are deposed by those government officials who want to keep their positions in the face of the growing discontent.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51753607]Trump's a puppet for the Russian Government[/QUOTE] that sounds pretty bold, can you at least prove that?
[QUOTE=J!NX;51753646]that sounds pretty bold, can you at least prove that?[/QUOTE] Call it a hunch. Besides, there's plenty of circumstantial evidence supporting my claim, just nothing concrete yet. If a random Canuck like me had access to that, he'd have been impeached and convicted of committing treason already, because the alphabet agencies would have had it first.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51753766]Call it a hunch. Besides, there's plenty of circumstantial evidence supporting my claim, just nothing concrete yet. If a random Canuck like me had access to that, he'd have been impeached and convicted of committing treason already, because the alphabet agencies would have had it first.[/QUOTE] personally its my own big conspiracy theory as well but there's just nothing out there to make it a definite. other people agree but no one can really call it more than a hunch. I just hope its not true and he's an idiot
[QUOTE=J!NX;51753780]personally its my own big conspiracy theory as well but there's just nothing out there to make it a definite I just hope its not true and he's an idiot[/QUOTE] He's certainly an idiot either way, but either Trump or someone connected to him *is* selling state secrets to the Russian government. That's why Russia began arresting US agents and informants right after Trump took office and gained Top Secret access. So I sincerely hope the CIA are working on investigating him and his cabinet.
If it IS true, I want to see every single thing this dudes done dismantled and destroyed MERGE [QUOTE=archangel125;51753786]He's certainly an idiot either way, but either Trump or someone connected to him *is* selling state secrets to the Russian government. That's why Russia began arresting US agents and informants right after Trump took office and gained Top Secret access. So I sincerely hope the CIA are working on investigating him and his cabinet.[/QUOTE] To be honest, I'm sure everyone is investigating more than just russian connections.
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[QUOTE=Sableye;51753794]somethingsomethingsomething deleted clinton emails, somethingsomethingsomething bengazi, somethingsomethingsomething kellian Connoway.[/QUOTE] No, see, [I]now[/I] it's okay because the Democrats did something kinda similar that one time a few decades ago
Americans need to keep a very, very close eye on their government's structural changes, and Bannon in particular. I have a feeling he knows exactly what he's doing, and he's counting on nobody clueing in in time.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51754150]Americans need to keep a very, very close eye on their government's structural changes, and Bannon in particular. I have a feeling he knows exactly what he's doing, and he's counting on nobody clueing in in time.[/QUOTE] It's so painfully obvious the ill-intentions of this new administration, but for some reason most Americans that I talk to are so much more in the dark about it than the rest of the world.
[QUOTE=Pandamobile;51754192]It's so painfully obvious the ill-intentions of this new administration, but for some reason most Americans that I talk to are so much more in the dark about it than the rest of the world.[/QUOTE] I have a strong feeling this may run deeper than any of us realize. You know the National Security council that Bannon is, for some reason on? I read this [URL="https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.r62v89x06"]in an article by someone paying attention[/URL]: [quote]A second major theme is watching the set of people involved. There appears to be a very tight “inner circle,” containing at least Trump, Bannon, Miller, Priebus, Kushner, and possibly Flynn, which is making all of the decisions. Other departments and appointees have been deliberately hobbled, with key orders announced to them only after the fact, staff gutted, and so on. Yesterday’s reorganization of the National Security Council mirrors this: Bannon and Priebus now have permanent seats on the Principals’ Committee; the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have both been demoted to only attending meetings where they are told that their expertise is relevant; the Secretary of Energy and the US representative to the UN were kicked off the committee altogether (in defiance of the authorizing statute, incidentally). I am reminded of Trump’s continued operation of a private personal security force, and his deep rift with the intelligence community. Last Sunday, Kellyanne Conway (likely another member of the inner circle) said that “It’s really time for [Trump] to put in his own security and intelligence community,” and this seems likely to be the case. As per my analysis yesterday, Trump is likely to want his own intelligence service disjoint from existing ones and reporting directly to him; given the current staffing and roles of his inner circle, Bannon is the natural choice for them to report through. (Having neither a large existing staff, nor any Congressional or Constitutional restrictions on his role as most other Cabinet-level appointees do) Keith Schiller would continue to run the personal security force, which would take over an increasing fraction of the Secret Service’s job. Especially if combined with the DHS and the FBI, which appear to have remained loyal to the President throughout the recent transition, this creates the armature of a shadow government: intelligence and police services which are not accountable through any of the normal means, answerable only to the President.[/quote] There is a very, very small possibility that the Executive branch is planning a Coup D'Etat. I know it may sound insane right now, but Americans, for the love of all you hold dear, watch your Federal government carefully. If Trump is a fool, Bannon isn't, and Bannon's the one pulling the strings right now. As your forefathers said, the price of Liberty is eternal vigilance.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51754204]I have a strong feeling this may run deeper than any of us realize. You know the National Security council that Bannon is, for some reason on? I read this [URL="https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.r62v89x06"]in an article by someone paying attention[/URL]: There is a very, very small possibility that the Executive branch is planning a Coup D'Etat. I know it may sound insane right now, but Americans, for the love of all you hold dear, watch your Federal government carefully. If Trump is a fool, Bannon isn't, and Bannon's the one pulling the strings right now. As your forefathers said, the price of Liberty is eternal vigilance.[/QUOTE] genuine question: why would trump & friends perform a coup d'etat on the government that they were democratically elected to lead?
[QUOTE=Judas;51754222]genuine question: why would trump & friends perform a coup d'etat on the government that they were democratically elected to lead?[/QUOTE] To secure more power, I'd guess. Can't have any of those pesky checks and balances getting in the way
[QUOTE=Judas;51754222]genuine question: why would trump & friends perform a coup d'etat on the government that they were democratically elected to lead?[/QUOTE] Because this isn't going to be a violent coup. It's going to be a coup in the sense that their actions so far have indicated a very deliberate move to dismantle the bureaucracy in the executive branch, and make it operate entirely independently of the legislative and judicial branches, with power entirely focused in Trump's little circle. Congress and the courts don't mean shit if none of the other government agencies listen to them. How many of the Trump administration's measures has he tried to pass through Congress? On the other hand, he's been in office ten days and has passed 15 executive orders with serious implications. And there is no paper trail of the meetings held by this NSC - very concerning. Let's not forget that the Department of Homeland Security ignored the court stays and continued to enforce the ban. You know those State Department heads who all simultaneously resigned? [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/state-department-purge-trump-foreign-policy"]The Guardian[/URL] reports that they were forcibly removed, summarily dismissed in a purge, and sources its claims. This is what the State Department's command structure looks like right now: Blue Xs are unfilled positions, red Xs are positions that have been purged. [t]http://i.imgur.com/e9QwW2Y.jpg[/t] The Trump Administration has not yet named appointees to replace them. I'm praying I'm wrong here; I'm no tinfoil hatter. But I've got a very, very bad gut feeling about this. If all of these things seem unlikely, just read the article in my last post. Judge it on its own merits and how the information is analyzed, and tell me if you still feel the same.
[QUOTE=Judas;51754222]genuine question: why would trump & friends perform a coup d'etat on the government that they were democratically elected to lead?[/QUOTE] Because without full control you cannot amass incredible amounts of untraceable wealth
They continue to warp and twist our government in service of their own goals and we're powerless to stop it. Here I thought I'd live to see the greatest age of mankind to date. We're only going backwards.
Someone please put a bullet into his head please.
[QUOTE=Nerfmaster000;51754424]Someone please put a bullet into his head please.[/QUOTE] I'd rather see him impeached, that would 1000% more humiliating, seeing millions cheer while his massive ego would have to deal with it. Also *insert obligatory political-assassination is not a tool in a democracy argument*.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51754204] There is a very, very small possibility that the Executive branch is planning a Coup D'Etat. I know it may sound insane right now, but Americans, for the love of all you hold dear, watch your Federal government carefully. If Trump is a fool, Bannon isn't, and Bannon's the one pulling the strings right now. As your forefathers said, the price of Liberty is eternal vigilance.[/QUOTE] Let's take this at face value and say that's what they're planning; the Executive branch plans a coup. I'm not particularly well versed on American government structure. What would that mean, exactly? I know about the separation of powers but that's just about it.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51754573]Let's take this at face value and say that's what they're planning; the Executive branch plans a coup. I'm not particularly well versed on American government structure. What would that mean, exactly? I know about the separation of powers but that's just about it.[/QUOTE] Well, the article I mention in that post paints a picture. I recommend you read it, even if it's a little lengthy, because the guy who wrote it did his homework, and in any case makes the argument far more compellingly than I could. It's not a guarantee that this is what's happening, but the steps that have been taken so far, and continue to be taken, make it a concerning possibility, with the potential for very, very far-reaching consequences. Imagine a Trump administration in charge of the police and military with nobody - not the courts, not Congress, not the JSOC - to tell him no. And now imagine Bannon pulling Trump's strings.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51754579]Imagine a Trump administration in charge of the police and military with nobody - not the courts, not Congress, not the military - to tell him no.[/QUOTE] Pants to be darkened.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51753794]somethingsomethingsomething deleted clinton emails, somethingsomethingsomething bengazi, somethingsomethingsomething kellian Connoway.[/QUOTE] Don't forget pizzagate, and of course "alternate facts" by Conway. There is no need for a paper trail, alternate facts, and we are transparent. Its the fake news telling us this is a bad idea, only get the news from the White House, Breitbart, Infowars, Stormfront, Fox News, and Russia Today. They post the truth, unlike CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, and New York Times who are liberal and fake news stations/media.
What happened to people who were going to vote for Trump because they couldn't vote for Bernie?
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