• Iran to ban US citizens in response to Trump's order
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[QUOTE=Chonch;51741309]Why Iran of all places? We've been doing pretty good with Iran recently. Wasn't Turkey threatening to open the floodgates of migrants into the EU if it didn't get its way once? Why not ban them instead?[/QUOTE] Cuz NATO member I guess, and Trump doesn't seem to care much about the EU.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51740881]So now it's a tennis match, the ball being the double-citizenship iranians?[/QUOTE] Dual-citizenship doesn't exist because of the way relations work between the United States and Iran. If you're born in the United States to an Iranian parent, for example, then you technically have dual-citizenship until you turn 18. At that point, you have to declare whether you want to be an American or an Iranian. But you can't be both. My father is Iranian (Persian), and that's how it worked for me when I was a kid. I chose to remain an American. This ban sucks, but it's not surprising. It's an entirely justified response to this administration's behavior. I had planned on going over with my uncle to Tehran after I graduate in May to see relatives and to tour the country (I've never been before), but looks like that plan just went right out the fucking window. Fuck Trump, and fuck the people who still support him. They're enemies of what the United States is supposed to stand for, and they deserve all the hatred in the world for it.
[QUOTE=Knurr;51741372]Who from USA or any civilised country would go there anyway. Oh come on, it's usually the opposite - they want to reach Europe/US, but no man from these countries would go there.[/QUOTE] I'd really like to visit Iran one day when it's a bit more secular.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51741517]I'd really like to visit Iran one day when it's a bit more secular.[/QUOTE] if nothing goes wrong, hopefully it happens within a decade or too. but things seem to be going very wrong as of late, so I don't know what to say anymore.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51741517]I'd really like to visit Iran one day when it's a bit more secular.[/QUOTE] I think it's meant to be pretty cool to visit depending where you go, some areas are secular despite the government.
My wife is Iranian-American and this is fucking horrifying and hits close to home. I cant believe things are getting bad this quick. "First they come for the communists..."
Can someone tell me who was the candidate that was going to start WW3 again?
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51741651]I think it's meant to be pretty cool to visit depending where you go, some areas are secular despite the government.[/QUOTE] I've heard mixed reports but from what I've seen parts of it are beautiful and the people are great.
[QUOTE=Swiket;51740915]...is something that people with iranian families might say[/QUOTE] Like my relatives in the US who regularly travel between the two countries. I wonder what will happen to them now.
My cousin and her Iranian husband voted for Trump This is pretty ironic
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51741517]I'd really like to visit Iran one day when it's a bit more secular.[/QUOTE] Iran is one of those few countries that had need to go backwards in time, to when they were actually more progressed (and hadn't been couped, let's not forget). Sadly that's true for quite a few middle Eastern countries, judging by what friends from that region tell me.
[QUOTE=1239the;51741066]There's an Iranian-American family who run a liquor store near me, I feel really bad for them right now. I might go give them my phone number in case they get some insane racists giving them trouble like what happened at JFK airport.[/QUOTE] Please, do this. Islamophobia and racism against Arab-Americans will continue to rise in the coming years - it's [I]incredibly[/I] important to let people know that people around them are willing to stand up for their rights as fellow citizens and as human beings. Trump has tacitly (and often directly) encouraged discrimination and hatred towards a specific ethnic and religious group. Violence [I]will[/I] follow, like it has every other time in history this kind of scapegoating has occurred. You should take steps to make sure you aren't a passive bystander if we continue down this path. Read some Arendt and Havel on collective civil resistance and the responsibility of the individual to consciously and visibly stand up against state-sponsored or state-encouraged discrimination.
[QUOTE=da space core;51741201]Oh look, I can't visit my own family any more. screw this[/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/825439380806434816[/media]
When the Foreign Minister of Iran is more tolerant than the president of the United States.
[QUOTE=Cone;51741947][media]https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/825439380806434816[/media][/QUOTE] Wow, fucking [i]Iran[/i] has more reasonable border policy than us now.
thanks for the support guys, i received a few PMs to be more precise, my close family is the US and have a citizenship and will be fine. my extended family in iran obviously cant come to visit now, or vice versa. but we are all safe and will be fine
In the end, the only to suffer is the families and relatives. [t]http://www.inenart.eu/wp-content/plugins/widgetkit/cache/gallery/15771/14475-66d1c40379.jpg[/t]
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