Trump pledges to accept election day result if he wins
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[QUOTE=Paramud;51234425]Worst case scenario would be armed rebellion. While any loss of life is terrible, a bunch of uneducated rednecks shooting at the government is going to be crushed long before they have a chance of overthrowing it.[/QUOTE]
you're talking about a bunch of human fucking beings being fooled into throwing their lives away solely to protect the fragile ego of a psychopathic narcissist
it's horrifying
I'm not afraid of a rebellion, I'm afraid of mass suicide
Imagine him losing and moving his company to another country.
I think I'd die laughing.
He is endangering the [b]peaceful transfer of power[/b].
The fact that there are voters or politicians who defend him, even over this shit, proves that the slippery slope argument is absolutely valid in regards to this election.
Live an utterly unprincipled life? That's fine.
Attack some random individual for shitty reasons? That's fine.
Show nothing but disrespect and ridicule towards your political opponents? That's fine.
Endorse the commitment of war crimes? That's fine.
Attack a certain ethnicity/religious group? That's fine.
Talk about how he likes to use his power to harass women? That's fine.
Throw a grenade into the democratic process? ...
Where does this shit end? Whatever hyperbole was uttered against Trump, he has managed to exceed it. All that remains are the Trump = Hitler jokes. I know that a lot of Trump defenders like to minimize the gravity of what he is saying by either making broad abstractions, or purposefully not seeing the forest for the trees, but let's make this definite:
If you support a man who endangers democracy, you are directly culpable for whatever follows.
he's lost the fucking plot
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51234192]Since when?[/QUOTE]
Fair enough! Just don't see it too often. Still, it's definitely preferable to have the article as well, so long as one is available. After all, the key word there is "only."
[QUOTE=TheHydra;51234532]he's lost the fucking plot[/QUOTE]
he never fucking had it to begin with
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234544]he never fucking had it to begin with[/QUOTE]
didn't he say he would accept the result in debate 1? now he's just diving straight into the deep end
[QUOTE=Swiket;51234086]i feel like trump would have a better chance of winning if he was like 5% less retarded[/QUOTE]
so 5% higher chance
[QUOTE=TheHydra;51234547]didn't he say he would accept the result in debate 1? now he's just diving straight into the deep end[/QUOTE]
since the beginning of his campaign, he has demonstrated nothing but solipsistic vanity and psychopathic disregard for the rest of humanity
this is just a continuation of the behavior that I and many other people have been warning people about since the beginning. It's singularly vile and malicious, but completely in character.
all this shows is that there really is no pledge he can make too sacred or too personal for him to later go back on. He's utterly and completely bankrupt of integrity.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234492]you're talking about a bunch of human fucking beings being fooled into throwing their lives away solely to protect the fragile ego of a psychopathic narcissist
it's horrifying
I'm not afraid of a rebellion, I'm afraid of mass suicide[/QUOTE]
Sounds like hyperbolic paranoia. The likeliest scenario is he'll throw his tantrum, no evidence of tampering will surface, argument dies, he runs his mouth every so often and the world still spins.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;51234569]Sounds like hyperbolic paranoia. The likeliest scenario is he'll throw his tantrum, no evidence of tampering will surface, argument dies, he runs his mouth every so often and the world still spins.[/QUOTE]
because lack of evidence did so much to snuff out the birther conspiracy
When Trump says the election was stolen from Republicans, I'm sure his supporters will just look at the evidence and realize his claim is false, just like all the other times he's lied
I'm pretty sure Trump said "if I win" in the sense that he will win the election (to hype up his supports), not that he will not accept the result if Hillary wins. Though, I would not be suprised if he does not accept the results.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234492]you're talking about a bunch of human fucking beings being fooled into throwing their lives away solely to protect the fragile ego of a psychopathic narcissist
it's horrifying
I'm not afraid of a rebellion, I'm afraid of mass suicide[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, it would be a terrible thing if a bunch of hicks decided to try to take on one of the strongest military superpowers on the planet. But if thats's the decision they make, that's what's going to happen.
Although I doubt that anything is going to happen aside from Trump pissing and moaning about it for a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234583]because lack of evidence did so much to snuff out the birther conspiracy
When Trump says the election was stolen from Republicans, I'm sure his supporters will just look at the evidence and realize his claim is false, just like all the other times he's lied[/QUOTE]
There will always be people who will bitch about it; think whatever they want to think. However, to think that people will take up arms over this; some Civil War 2.0 scenario? Sounds like something far out of the left field.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;51234569]Sounds like hyperbolic paranoia. The likeliest scenario is he'll throw his tantrum, no evidence of tampering will surface, argument dies, he runs his mouth every so often and the world still spins.[/QUOTE]
There are already people trying to argue on both this forum, and I think even a fucking cnn guest earlier today, that the election is rigged. This is in spite of the fact that there is no conclusive evidence of the sort in existence.
If there's one thing I've learned in the admittedly somewhat short amount of time since I've become aware of politics, it's that people will believe something based off of how strongly they want to believe it more than anything else. There are a lot of people who really, really want to believe trump, regardless of the fact that he's a compulsive liar and has no idea how to implement sound economic policy. If he says the election is rigged, people will be repeating exactly that for years to come, and there will be nothing that can be said to convince them otherwise.
Well I can't say I trust the current government to not right the election.
Can't even trust the DNC to allow people to vote for their own candidate it seems.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;51234609]There will always be people who will bitch about it; think whatever they want to think. However, to think that people will take up arms over this; some Civil War 2.0 scenario? Sounds like something far out of the left field.[/QUOTE]
too many cops are shot by sovereign citizens who think the government is illegitimate already for me to say nothing will come of one of the two candidates for president publicly stating that the government is illegitimate
Again, I don't fear rebellion, I fear innocent policemen, national guardsmen, and paranoid followers of this fucking fascist pig losing their lives because of his tantrums.
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[QUOTE=Oizen;51234639]Well I can't say I trust the current government to not right the election.
Can't even trust the DNC to allow people to vote for their own candidate it seems.[/QUOTE]
the idea that elections in republican states, overseen and carried out by republican officials, are being rigged by the democratic candidate when there is absolutely no evidence to suggest such, nor even a working explanation of how that rigging could even be taking place, is insane
there is no other word for it. It is a virtual possibility, but to say that it is happening given the current situation is [I]insane.[/I]
[QUOTE=smurfy;51234059]Weird how he's not really running a campaign anymore, he's just fucking around for 3 more weeks now. There's no ground operation and there's no effort to reach out to any new voters, Clinton is essentially unopposed as Trump just takes the time to feud with his enemies and jack off his supporters[/QUOTE]
He didn't need to really reach out to his target demographic. Hell, to keep his target demographic, he had to do ONE thing, and ONLY ONE SIMPLE THING.
He had to be ANYBODY other than Hillary Clinton. That's it. And he's somehow blowing it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234492]you're talking about a bunch of human fucking beings being fooled into throwing their lives away solely to protect the fragile ego of a psychopathic narcissist
it's horrifying
I'm not afraid of a rebellion, I'm afraid of mass suicide[/QUOTE]
As soon as the election is over Trump is going to disown the potentially violent portion of his voterbase and tell the nonviolent ones that they're doing the right thing. He can entertain his potentially violent voters right now because they're waiting to see the results before they do anything drastic. But once that's done, he's going to want them gone as quickly as possible.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51234947]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph556N8TmBk
relevant[/QUOTE]
This feels like the normal, American response to such a comment. And yet, 538 shows Trump having gained a little bit since the debate? Why did he go from 42.8% to 42.9%? Everything America has been proud of has been shat on by Trump and his supporters. And it's just... happening. I don't understand.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51235036]This feels like the normal, American response to such a comment. And yet, 538 shows Trump having gained a little bit since the debate? Why did he go from 42.8% to 42.9%? Everything America has been proud of has been shat on by Trump and his supporters. And it's just... happening. I don't understand.[/QUOTE]
the effects of a major event takes a few days to show up in the polls
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51235036]This feels like the normal, American response to such a comment. And yet, 538 shows Trump having gained a little bit since the debate? Why did he go from 42.8% to 42.9%? Everything America has been proud of has been shat on by Trump and his supporters. And it's just... happening. I don't understand.[/QUOTE]
The debates usually hit later than this. Give it another 12-24 hours.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51234641]too many cops are shot by sovereign citizens who think the government is illegitimate already for me to say nothing will come of one of the two candidates for president publicly stating that the government is illegitimate
Again, I don't fear rebellion, I fear innocent policemen, national guardsmen, and paranoid followers of this fucking fascist pig losing their lives because of his tantrums.
[editline]20th October 2016[/editline]
the idea that elections in republican states, overseen and carried out by republican officials, are being rigged by the democratic candidate when there is absolutely no evidence to suggest such, nor even a working explanation of how that rigging could even be taking place, is insane
there is no other word for it. It is a virtual possibility, but to say that it is happening given the current situation is [I]insane.[/I][/QUOTE]
why people think it's impossible hard to rig an election?
[editline]20th October 2016[/editline]
but I think we will know eventually
[QUOTE=Fourier;51235270]why people think it's impossible hard to rig an election?
[editline]20th October 2016[/editline]
but I think we will know eventually[/QUOTE]
Because it actually is. It's easy to take morally questionable methods, but in order to actually rig an election you'd have to conduct voter fraud on a massive level, which is hard enough to do on an minuscule level.
Not that you'd have to rig an election against Trump. Even in a completely fair election, Trump would be trailing. He probably wouldn't have even gotten the nominee.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51235055]The debates usually hit later than this. Give it another 12-24 hours.[/QUOTE]
2-3 days, really. Today's polls that came up were done before the debate, it will takes a few days to show polls post-debate.
I wonder who is going to give the concession speech when he loses. Cause with his ego I can't see it being him. Maybe it will have to be Pence
[QUOTE]Where does this shit end? [/QUOTE]
When candidates who have integrity, credibility and willingness to get corporate power out of politics. If Sanders was the canidate, Trump wouldve lost by a land slide. Maybe if those who care about civil rights should clean house to avoid complications in the future elections?
By supporting corrupt candidates, well shit is only going to get worse.
With how little credibility Hillary has is going to cause major issues once she gets into office.
She is seen so corrupt it would not surprise me that the likes such as oathkeepers will see this as a sign the election is illegitimate and a reason to "renew the republic" through violence.
Oh and don't blame Trump for his division. According to this article, it was Hilary who got or least helped Trump get nominated. [url]http://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/[/url]
So if you want someone to blame for the division during election, its Clinton.
If the article is true that Hillary is smart enough enough to manipulate the GOP primaries to get a favorable result, then this means she is very crafty. As in crafty to the point to be a threat to the Republic. Trump is a buffon. He is as threatening as a caged monkey.
Also don't think for a second that if Clinton wins, that the issues the pushed Trump to the top will magically go away. Until the corruption is fixed, there will be more populists on the way and the next one may be a bigger threat and more capable then Trump.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51235327]Because it actually is. It's easy to take morally questionable methods, but in order to actually rig an election you'd have to conduct voter fraud on a massive level, which is hard enough to do on an minuscule level.
Not that you'd have to rig an election against Trump. Even in a completely fair election, Trump would be trailing. He probably wouldn't have even gotten the nominee.[/QUOTE]
USA has electronic voting machines :). Though agreed, that is massive deception and waste of electronics to install lying/fake machines.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51235055]The debates usually hit later than this. Give it another 12-24 hours.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51235405]2-3 days, really. Today's polls that came up were done before the debate, it will takes a few days to show polls post-debate.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I think that one-day polls are possible but frowned upon.
I remember that CBS had conducted a one-day poll after the pussy-grabbing saga, but Trump had only lost a single % point of the popular vote.
[QUOTE=Fourier;51235463]USA has electronic voting machines :). Though agreed, that is massive deception and waste of electronics to install lying/fake machines.[/QUOTE]
Are enough voting machines electronic? Are enough of them within the grasp of democratic manipulators? Are you going to explain how this happens nation wide without people being aware of it?
Do you people have any idea the logistics of what you're claiming?
I know for a fact, you do not.
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