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Something I should have added to the post: Stop putting everything under the umbrella of 'mental illness'. She may have been mentally ill, she may not have been. Adhering to extreme ideology does not make you mentally ill, nor does doing extreme things. Mental illness is, in my view, a method to push problems under the rug. We see this with gun violence in America (though used slightly differently). Mental illness is brought up so no real policies can be put forward because so few people really understand it, but simultaneously it makes you look like you care because most people acknowledge it as important. Not all Nazis were 'mentally ill', not all members of Bader-Meinhoff were mentally ill, not all IS recruits are mentally ill. Same goes with 'people who believe in bad things are stupid'. Ted Cruz is not stupid.
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I hate the word mastermind. He wasn't a mastermind, he was an pathetic evil little shit.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;50126211]I hate the word mastermind. He wasn't a mastermind, he was an pathetic evil little shit.[/QUOTE] *she [editline]13th April 2016[/editline] I sort of agree though. I think a mastermind would go to some devious genius, which she doesn't sound like.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50126257]*she [editline]13th April 2016[/editline] I sort of agree though. I think a mastermind would go to some devious genius, which she doesn't sound like.[/QUOTE] the "mastermind" was a man, reported by a woman
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50118552] you can shut the fuck up about those dirty browns ruining your culture. Nothing about your day to day life is "traditional" and you're lying if you pretend otherwise while using the Internet - which isn't a traditional Serbian activity, but rather something you adopted as your national identity evolved. Cultures change and evolve as they interact with other cultures. Pulling the culture argument is bullshit.[/QUOTE] So the American who has never been in a community of recent migrants in Serbia, the American who has probably never been to Serbia whatsoever in fact, is telling a Serbian how to feel about the immigrants in his country? I'm sorry, but what ground do you or I have to stand on as US citizens when it comes to this migrant crisis? The United States hasn't done shit about all these displaced people and it doesn't have nearly the same impact on our local communities as it does in places like Serbia. Before you knee-jerk and talk about racism, maybe try actually putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Pulling the culture argument isn't "bullshit" it's a natural reaction many people have when a foreign culture starts pouring into their country. The States may be the melting pot, but not everywhere else is like the US.
[QUOTE=Blitzkreig;50130691]So the American who has never been in a community of recent migrants in Serbia, the American who has probably never been to Serbia whatsoever in fact, is telling a Serbian how to feel about the immigrants in his country? I'm sorry, but what ground do you or I have to stand on as US citizens when it comes to this migrant crisis? The United States hasn't done shit about all these displaced people and it doesn't have nearly the same impact on our local communities as it does in places like Serbia. Before you knee-jerk and talk about racism, maybe try actually putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Pulling the culture argument isn't "bullshit" it's a natural reaction many people have when a foreign culture starts pouring into their country. The States may be the melting pot, but not everywhere else is like the US.[/QUOTE] Immigrants and refugees are not threatening to replace Serbian culture with camels and magic carpets. They are bringing cultural influences to their destinations, just like people from those places brought cultural influences everywhere [I]they[/I] went. Europe is homogenizing whether you or anyone else likes it or not. Historic culture is documented and preserved for future generations to study and understand. It's not in danger of being forgotten, and the world is moving forward. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_European_colonies#Middle_East]Fucking immigrants coming to our country and corrupting our culture - what if we forget our rich history of immigrating to other countries and corrupting their culture?[/url] You get problems like terrorism not inherently from Middle Eastern cultures (which are rich and lovely) but from twisted and broken people manipulated by terrorist forces who take advantage of their vulnerabilities to further their own goals - forces which were largely created, sometimes accidentally and sometimes intentionally, by European and American meddling in the area's politics. Second, criminal activities spike in any refugee population compared to a stable population - "they're MUSLAMIC TERRISTS" is just an ignorant excuse used by xenophobes. Better education, better integration, and better cultural interface is the way to solve these problems. Like it or not, ultimately we destabilized these lands and we can't in good conscience shut the gates and leave them all to die - it's a fucking arena over there. I think the United States should be taking a greater role in absorbing some of these refugees, absolutely. Do [I]all[/I] of these people need to flee their countries? No, many of them are "economic refugees" taking advantage of the situation. But the question is: how are you going to separate the two in the chaos? You really can't - so should we [I]really[/I] force legitimate refugees, deprived of their homes, possessions, stability, families, et cetera to stay to be victim to whatever happens, [I]just[/I] to keep out a possible minority of people abusing the situation?
Really brave. I love it. [QUOTE=Chili Banan;50118539]This "argument" makes me so fucking mad it's unbelievable. The "they are ruining my country's culture" argument is such bullshit and I wish that people would stop using it. They are NOT forcing you to adhere to their culture. They are not going from door to door demanding that people stop following their traditions in favor of Muslim ones.[/QUOTE] It's not okay for me to refuse to shake hands with women, but it's okay when a Muslim refuses to shake hands with my girlfriend on the basis she's a woman. This is shitting on your hosts culture. And if I take objection to that I'm a racist islamophobe. If I go to another country and there's a customary greeting there, I will do it. [QUOTE=Chili Banan;50118539]They aren't though? They are constantly shat on by xenophobes for just talking a different language. If they are refugees from war that might be a reason for some special treatment. I'd assume you would want some form of special treatment if you were running from a war in your home country.[/QUOTE] They get "special treatment and amnesty from criticism" from people like you.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50136148]Really brave. I love it. It's not okay for me to refuse to shake hands with women, but it's okay when a Muslim refuses to shake hands with my girlfriend on the basis she's a woman. This is shitting on your hosts culture. And if I take objection to that I'm a racist islamophobe. If I go to another country and there's a customary greeting there, I will do it. They get "special treatment and amnesty from criticism" from people like you.[/QUOTE] I don't think you're an islamophobe for saying muslim men should shake hands with women (if thats the culture of the host country). I agree there needs to be cultural normalisation and integration. Educating and immersing refugees in our culture, history and lifestyle is the best way to ensure they end up integrating in the best possible way.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50136194]I don't think you're an islamophobe for saying muslim men should shake hands with women (if thats the culture of the host country). I agree there needs to be cultural normalisation and integration. Educating and immersing refugees in our culture, history and lifestyle is the best way to ensure they end up integrating in the best possible way.[/QUOTE] I have no problem with immigrants (Muslim or otherwise) who integrate and don't stay on welfare indefinitely.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;50116981] in fact if we leave their small differences aside Judaism, Islam, Christianism, Buddhism and many other religions share a lot of common mindsets and guides. .[/QUOTE] Buddhism has almost no similarities with western religion, please do not compare them.
[QUOTE=space1;50136478]Buddhism has almost no similarities with western religion, please do not compare them.[/QUOTE] Look at buddhist temples in china circa 400-500ad. Also look at buddhists doing genocide against muslims in Myanmar. Or buddhist temples during the japanese warring states period. Its not the religion but its followers sure can be assholes, so just the same as any of the other religions. Also the teachings arent much different. Charity, selflessness, subjugating yourself to god/univers, paying for your sins, having insurmountable sin for the very act of living (buddhism would have you feel guilty for killing worms while ploughing a field or feel guilt for the debt to your mother, Christianity for just being alive) and sacrifice (of some form or another) are present in all of them.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50136524]Look at buddhist temples in china circa 400-500ad. Also look at buddhists doing genocide against muslims in Myanmar. Or buddhist temples during the japanese warring states period. Its not the religion but its followers sure can be assholes, so just the same as any of the other religions. Also the teachings arent much different. Charity, selflessness, subjugating yourself to god/univers, paying for your sins, having insurmountable sin for the very act of living (buddhism would have you feel guilty for killing worms while ploughing a field or feel guilt for the debt to your mother, Christianity for just being alive) and sacrifice (of some form or another) are present in all of them.[/QUOTE] I never said Buddhists were incapable of being bad people. A lot of that is false equivalence. Buddhism is for the most part being an agnostic because of the way the belief system is set up, stressing that not everything absolute. Nirvana is also not really "equal" to heaven either, as it is basically just total neutrality, or not existing at all anymore. The very concept of a soul is considered a delusion by the part of your brain related to self preservation, and that by letting go, you're truly free of yourself.
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