Arizona Secretary of State Threatens To Remove Obama From Ballot - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Thursday, Breitbart Big Government reported on a promotional booklet by Obama’s own literary agency listing him as having been born in Kenya.[/QUOTE] Barrack Obama Sr. was born in Kenya.

Now I'm genuinely worried: this could go over just like when Lincoln was elected.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;36023164]Now I'm genuinely worried: this could go over just like when Lincoln was elected.[/QUOTE] I doubt it. We're not exactly at the 'threatening to kill immigrants from other states' level that the US was at in 1860.

[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;36023290]I doubt it. We're not exactly at the 'threatening to kill immigrants from other states' level that the US was at in 1860.[/QUOTE] Take out the "from other states" part and we sure as fuck are. We are seriously pushing the line on xenophobia these days.

[QUOTE=mac338;36016051]You don't have to be born in the US to be president, you just need to be born with citizenship. I was born here in Norway but I'm eligible to run for presidency thanks to being born with dual citizenship.[/QUOTE] I thought Norway didn't allow dual citizenships? I know that I wasn't allowed dual citizenship despite my father coming from a different country. I also remember reading in the law that you were forced to abolish all other citizenships except the Norwegian one or you would lose it.

[QUOTE=black_tech;36023403]I thought Norway didn't allow dual citizenships? I know that I wasn't allowed dual citizenship despite my father coming from a different country. I also remember reading in the law that you were forced to abolish all other citizenships except the Norwegian one or you would lose it.[/QUOTE] I think that's regarding retaining the citizenship of another country and becoming a Norwegian.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36023340]Take out the "from other states" part and we sure as fuck are. We are seriously pushing the line on xenophobia these days.[/QUOTE] Damn Irishmen coming to take our jobs.

[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;36023290]I doubt it. We're not exactly at the 'threatening to kill immigrants from other states' level that the US was at in 1860.[/QUOTE] Give 'em a month, and/or a gay rights equivalent of the Kansas Nebraska act.

My English teacher moved out of the state, partially due to our crazy politicians. I'm stuck here for 6 more years.

are you 12?

[QUOTE=Mr.T;36015099]I'm not from America but apparently Arizona is a retarded place. Am I right?[/QUOTE] Government being dumb=/=citizens being dumb.

[QUOTE=mac338;36016051]You don't have to be born in the US to be president, you just need to be born with citizenship. I was born here in Norway but I'm eligible to run for presidency thanks to being born with dual citizenship.[/QUOTE] Yep. Just like how John McCain was born in Panama. [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NielsGade;36014930]Seems fair. If Obama wasn't born in the US he can't be president. It's the law. [/QUOTE] It's not a fair question if the same thing isn't asked of Romney. Why only pick on Obama? Do the same rules not apply to the pasty old white guy?

[QUOTE=archangel125;36017516][editline]128[/editline] Oh look, no layers. don't believe me? Check for yourself. [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] Do you watch a lot of Fox News? It'd explain much.[/QUOTE] Hi there everyone, I'm the author of the article in question at [url]www.InContextReport.com[/url]. I'd love to answer any questions you have directly about my analysis of the Obama birth certificate files. To qualify myself, I have 15 years of experience in the graphics, video and photography industry as well as being a co-host for the weekly radio show "In Context" for 3 years and co-author of the blog. I decided to register here after seeing a spike in traffic from this site. Thanks , by the way, for the views. The user archangel125 is awfully accusatory in his claims and I'd like to set the record straight that I did nothing to manipulate birth certificate file. I merely saved the .pdf offered by the website and opened it in illustrator. It breaks out into layers and you can move and remove the seals and signatures at your leisure. The reason why I don't offer conclusive proof, as archangel states, is because there is none without having access to the forger and evidence of what, if anything, is being covered up. The Sheriff's investigation in Arizona claims that they have identified the forger so this would be a big step forward. The flawed process of offering a file with layers, altered text taken from different documents, and forged signatures only offers that there is something on the real birth certificate, should it exist, that the president does not want to be revealed. If he was born in Hawaii, then it could be that Obama Sr. is not his real father since it's documented that Dunham, Obama's mother, was also in another relationship with another man and that Obama Sr. was only using Dunham to obtain a visa. Please don't accuse me of applying filters and doctoring images though. I can offer complete proof and transparency of my workflow should you require it.

[QUOTE=gus_incontext;36030928]Hi there everyone, I'm the author of the article in question at [url]www.InContextReport.com[/url]. I'd love to answer any questions you have directly about my analysis of the Obama birth certificate files. To qualify myself, I have 15 years of experience in the graphics, video and photography industry as well as being a co-host for the weekly radio show "In Context" for 3 years and co-author of the blog. I decided to register here after seeing a spike in traffic from this site. Thanks , by the way, for the views. The user archangel125 is awfully accusatory in his claims and I'd like to set the record straight that I did nothing to manipulate birth certificate file. I merely saved the .pdf offered by the website and opened it in illustrator. It breaks out into layers and you can move and remove the seals and signatures at your leisure. The reason why I don't offer conclusive proof, as archangel states, is because there is none without having access to the forger and evidence of what, if anything, is being covered up. The Sheriff's investigation in Arizona claims that they have identified the forger so this would be a big step forward. The flawed process of offering a file with layers, altered text taken from different documents, and forged signatures only offers that there is something on the real birth certificate, should it exist, that the president does not want to be revealed. If he was born in Hawaii, then it could be that Obama Sr. is not his real father since it's documented that Dunham, Obama's mother, was also in another relationship with another man and that Obama Sr. was only using Dunham to obtain a visa. Please don't accuse me of applying filters and doctoring images though. I can offer complete proof and transparency of my workflow should you require it.[/QUOTE] This is off-topic to your work on the birth certificate, but I'm curious about your theory on how someone with 15yrs experience in the graphics and design field can identify it as a forgery but the NSA, CIA, and FBI, as well as the media, foreign intelligence agencies all apparently have no problem with it. That said, [quote]Please don't accuse me of applying filters and doctoring images though. I can offer complete proof and transparency of my workflow should you require it.[/QUOTE] I'm also curious why you only supply proof 'should [we] require it.' Shouldn't you document your entire workflow 100% transparently on the first go-around?

[QUOTE=gus_incontext;36030928]Please don't accuse me of applying filters and doctoring images though. I can offer complete proof and transparency of my workflow should you require it.[/QUOTE] Funny how proof is super important until you're the one who's asked for it.

I have living here. I hate the climate. I hate the smog, and the forest fires. I hate all the dumb ass lifted superduty trucks they drive here. I hate Sheriff Joe and Governor Brewer and every official that they endorse or endorses them. The entire metropolitan area here is a piece of shit.

[QUOTE=NielsGade;36014930]Seems fair. If Obama wasn't born in the US he can't be president. It's the law.[/QUOTE] Aaaand he's already U.S. President Yeah, I think they already did that check officially before he ever got close I wish I knew what grounds people like this are basing it on

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36031800]I wish I knew what grounds people like this are basing it on[/QUOTE] Racism mostly. Name one other president in our history whose place-of-birth was questioned to this degree. I mean, you can't even just say it's Republicans being Republicans, because they never went this fucking crazy about any other democrat ever.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36030627]Yep. Just like how John McCain was born in Panama. [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] It's not a fair question if the same thing isn't asked of Romney. Why only pick on Obama? Do the same rules not apply to the pasty old white guy?[/QUOTE] Wasn't he born in U.S. territory in Panama? Like some military base, methinks.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36031827]Wasn't he born in U.S. territory in Panama? Like some military base, methinks.[/QUOTE] Even if you are born outside the US, if you are parented by a US citizen then you are a citizen. Like, if you're pregnant and you go on a trip overseas, and you end up going into labor abroad and having the kid, customs is not going to stop you there and make that kid go through immigration. They're a citizen by default because you're their parent. Which makes that entire fucking argument even more transparently ignorant and racist.

[QUOTE=Lankist;36031822]Racism mostly. Name one other president in our history whose place-of-birth was questioned to this degree. I mean, you can't even just say it's Republicans being Republicans, because they never went this fucking crazy about any other democrat ever.[/QUOTE] I honestly want them to publicly say why they still think this is an issue. I want to hear what they say. And Republicans seem to be known for xenophobia, so...

how do you respond obama [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/04Q7o.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=gus_incontext;36030928]Hi there everyone, I'm the author of the article in question at [url]www.InContextReport.com[/url]. I'd love to answer any questions you have directly about my analysis of the Obama birth certificate files. To qualify myself, I have 15 years of experience in the graphics, video and photography industry as well as being a co-host for the weekly radio show "In Context" for 3 years and co-author of the blog. I decided to register here after seeing a spike in traffic from this site. Thanks , by the way, for the views. The user archangel125 is awfully accusatory in his claims and I'd like to set the record straight that I did nothing to manipulate birth certificate file. I merely saved the .pdf offered by the website and opened it in illustrator. It breaks out into layers and you can move and remove the seals and signatures at your leisure. The reason why I don't offer conclusive proof, as archangel states, is because there is none without having access to the forger and evidence of what, if anything, is being covered up. The Sheriff's investigation in Arizona claims that they have identified the forger so this would be a big step forward. The flawed process of offering a file with layers, altered text taken from different documents, and forged signatures only offers that there is something on the real birth certificate, should it exist, that the president does not want to be revealed. If he was born in Hawaii, then it could be that Obama Sr. is not his real father since it's documented that Dunham, Obama's mother, was also in another relationship with another man and that Obama Sr. was only using Dunham to obtain a visa. Please don't accuse me of applying filters and doctoring images though. I can offer complete proof and transparency of my workflow should you require it.[/QUOTE] Most importantly, who the fuck cares where Obama was born? That doesn't affect his political ability.

obama wasn't born in the usa, Bruce Springsteen was, therefor Bruce Springsteen for president 2012

[QUOTE=gus_incontext;36030928]The user archangel125 is awfully accusatory in his claims and I'd like to set the record straight that I did nothing to manipulate birth certificate file. I merely saved the .pdf offered by the website and opened it in illustrator. It breaks out into layers and you can move and remove the seals and signatures at your leisure.[/QUOTE] The reason the layers are there is because of a feature in Adobe Acrobat called "Optimized Scanned File." [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrEiOc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m13s"]Here's a video showing it.[/URL] [editline][URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding"]a[/URL][/editline] [URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding"]Also, another article about the layers.[/URL] He scans a document, coverts it to PDF, optimizes it, and shows how it has created layers.

[QUOTE=RichardCQ;36031109]This is off-topic to your work on the birth certificate, but I'm curious about your theory on how someone with 15yrs experience in the graphics and design field can identify it as a forgery but the NSA, CIA, and FBI, as well as the media, foreign intelligence agencies all apparently have no problem with it. That said, I'm also curious why you only supply proof 'should [we] require it.' Shouldn't you document your entire workflow 100% transparently on the first go-around?[/QUOTE] What didn't I explain of my workflow in my post? I'm replying to someone who didn't understand, or didn't read what I wrote. Please read my original article and should you need a further explanation I'll provide it. But I think I gave a pretty thorough explanation of what I did in my step by step breakdown of the birth certificate file. The NSA, CIA, FBI and the media didn't investigate the birth certificate. You assume that just because they didn't make a stink to accuse their own commander in chief of fraud that there isn't any. It is almost always the responsibility of the citizenry to press their government for honesty. If it weren't for Mark Klein, the whistleblower who gave us the photo of the NSA's wiretapping room at AT&T in California, we wouldn't have ever known about George Bush's illegal warrentless wiretap program. [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=LegndNikko;36031800]Aaaand he's already U.S. President Yeah, I think they already did that check officially before he ever got close I wish I knew what grounds people like this are basing it on[/QUOTE] As far as whether any check was done, there is no birth certificate or any other documentation requirement to get onto the ballot. Check out how simple the state of NY's ballot registration is: [url]http://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/elections/2012/Primary/NYSBOEPresidentialPrimary01242012.pdf[/url] Submit the petitions and fee and you're on. It's up to the press to vet a candidate and as we've seen, the media doesn't vet people they like. Otherwise we would have seen this back in 2008: [url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Obama-pamphlet-in-use-2007[/url] [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=LegndNikko;36031827]Wasn't he born in U.S. territory in Panama? Like some military base, methinks.[/QUOTE] Correct. McCain was born on a military base to two American born parents. Born abroad doesn't matter in this case as long as you satisfy the rest of the requirements like returning to the US within a certain time, applying for a S.S. # within a certain time and living in the US for 15 years before running for president. [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;36031844]Even if you are born outside the US, if you are parented by a US citizen then you are a citizen. Like, if you're pregnant and you go on a trip overseas, and you end up going into labor abroad and having the kid, customs is not going to stop you there and make that kid go through immigration. They're a citizen by default because you're their parent. Which makes that entire fucking argument even more transparently ignorant and racist.[/QUOTE] You're partially right. The Obama story is different because he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia at which point he gave up his American citizenship, if he had it to begin with. The controversy is not about racism, but whether he adequately regained his citizenship upon returning to the US. The SS# he's using was issued in the state of CT, a place he never lived or worked. The birth certificate is problematic and probably a forgery in order to maintain the narrative of his life which is probably untrue. What he's hiding would most likely be revealed by the real birth certificate. [editline]20th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;36032241]Most importantly, who the fuck cares where Obama was born? That doesn't affect his political ability.[/QUOTE] It matters because he can be blackmailed. The writers of the constitution wanted a natural born american to be president so that he/she would be completely loyal to the US and not to another country or foreign power. As we've seen, Obama is completely in the pockets of the corporations and banks and is more interested in protecting the banks and the reputation of NATO and the UN then getting poor people off food stamps and unemployment. So there is good reason to want to uphold the constitution. Without the fear of justice there is nothing to keep people honest. You might as well live on a pirate ship. Bush had illegal wars, and wiretaps and Obama has continued all of it including the corporate give-aways and all police state tactics. If you don't care about that, then that's your prerogative.

[QUOTE=gus_incontext;36033924]because he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia at which point he gave up his American citizenship, [/QUOTE] He did not lose his American citizenship when his mother married Soetoro. [URL]http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/2008/10/did-obama-becom.html[/URL] [quote]The SS# he's using was issued in the state of CT, a place he never lived or worked.[/quote] [URL="http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp"]Read here[/URL], about half-way down the page. A person need not to have ever resided or worked in a state to receive a Social Security number with that area number; "it can be the address of a friend, relative, employer, rented post office box, or anyone else authorized to receive mail on his behalf." Yes, it is strange, but it is not ample proof that Obama's life story is fabricated. Also; [quote]Note: One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. The numbering scheme was designed in 1936 (before computers) to make it easier for SSA to store the applications in our files in Baltimore since the files were organized by regions as well as alphabetically. It was really just a bookkeeping device for our own internal use and was never intended to be anything more than that.[/quote] [URL="http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html"] http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=butters757;36032840]The reason the layers are there is because of a feature in Adobe Acrobat called "Optimized Scanned File." [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrEiOc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m13s"]Here's a video showing it.[/URL] [editline][URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding"]a[/URL][/editline] [URL="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding"]Also, another article about the layers.[/URL] He scans a document, coverts it to PDF, optimizes it, and shows how it has created layers.[/QUOTE] Do you have Illustrator? If you do open the original PDF and zoom in down to the signature of the registrar, box 21. Turn off every layer but the background. You'll see nothing but the security background, the outline of the boxes and all of the letters but one. Then if you turn on the next layer then you can see that letter appear, but it will be in a different amount of compression. It'll look like a photoshop pencil without anti-aliasing turned on with jagged edges. This is not OCR or optimized scans. Optimized scans create layers for each object, not for randomly grouped selections of different signatures and words. Lastly, why on earth if people want to see an original birth certificate would they release a document that had any optimization applied to it? That stinks of fraud. Just scan it and post a high quality jpg, end of story. [editline]21st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=butters757;36034203]He did not lose his American citizenship when his mother married Soetoro. [URL]http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/2008/10/did-obama-becom.html[/URL] [URL="http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp"]Read here[/URL], about half-way down the page. A person need not to have ever resided or worked in a state to receive a Social Security number with that area number; "it can be the address of a friend, relative, employer, rented post office box, or anyone else authorized to receive mail on his behalf." Yes, it is strange, but it is not ample proof that Obama's life story is fabricated. Also; [URL="http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html"] http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html[/URL][/QUOTE] I'm going to have to pass on this debate. The law is not my strength and if you read Attorney Phil Berg's and journalist Jerome Corsi's articles it directly contradicts that post. I'm going to let the courts and lawyers sort it out. My original blog post was about the flaws in the digital PDF of the birth certificate. The number of holes in that document and the massive amounts of other curiosities surrounding his past are enough to warrant a more complete congressional investigation instead of just more white washing.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;36015200]Here's your proof bud [IMG]http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201104/r758072_6347120.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Fabricated by the New World Order One World Government Illuminati liberal anarcho-communist Nazi Arab Muslim conspiracy. Try again.

[quote]Do you have Illustrator? If you do open the original PDF and zoom in down to the signature of the registrar, box 21. Turn off every layer but the background. You'll see nothing but the security background, the outline of the boxes and all of the letters but one. Then if you turn on the next layer then you can see that letter appear, but it will be in a different amount of compression. It'll look like a photoshop pencil without anti-aliasing turned on with jagged edges. This is not OCR or optimized scans. Optimized scans create layers for each object, not for randomly grouped selections of different signatures and words. [/quote] [URL="Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit"]Fox News: Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit[/URL] [quote]It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake. But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong. The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered. But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator. “You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations. He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said. Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more. “When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.” Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document. “I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common. “I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said. [/quote] But hey, I guess you're more knowledgeable about image editing than an Adobe-verified expert, right? [quote]Lastly, why on earth if people want to see an original birth certificate would they release a document that had any optimization applied to it? That stinks of fraud. Just scan it and post a high quality jpg, end of story.[/quote] It's very possible that the optimization was added automatically, and that somebody simply forgot to shut it off, as many scanners do have an option for it. Also, just for fun: [URL="http://i.imgur.com/9Ufam.gif"][I]Sunday Advertisor[/I] publishes announcement of Obama's birth, August 1961.[/URL] [URL="http://i.imgur.com/khkQe.jpg"][I]Star Bulletin[/I] publishes announcment of Obama's birth, August 1961.[/URL] [URL="http://media.staradvertiser.com/images/300*311/69e03e651b133f09eb0e6a706700cd59.jpg"]Birth announcement from Honolulu Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, announcing Obama's birth.[/URL] [URL="http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Obamas_birth_is_easily_verified_but_few_choose_to_do_so.html?id=120561054"]Sunday Advertiser article, verifying Obama's birth in Hawaii.[/URL] Sources that confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii.