Cher freaks out about Pepe the Frog, white supremacist symbol shared by Donald Trump Jr. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068536]A presidential candidate's last childish come-back should have been about the time they were a child, or shortly thereafter. It speaks volumes about his mentality because it is textbook-Trump. It's not an anomaly, it is his normal means by which he handles criticism. How his camp has handled the entire Pepe "scandal" is more evidence of this complete lack of diplomacy or find a middle ground. As president he will be the subject of more domestic and international criticism than he has ever faced in his life. Do you want to gamble the fate of this country on his temper and ability to be diplomatic? I don't. One vapid comment to the wrong person about the relative attractiveness of their family members could start an international incident. I don't think he has the self control.[/QUOTE]Hah, holy shit this is actually rambling nonsense. Like, you're grasping at the faintest of straws on this one. Trump's a dangerous jackass, but your bad deconstruction is hilarious in its meaninglessness.

[QUOTE=Cructo;51068556]Hahahah imagine getting this upset over a minor insult that happened 4 years ago[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware there was a statute of limitations on being a dickhead. Aside from that, I was responding more to the notion that that was in any way 'destroying' her in a fashion which should be admired than the tweet itself.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068559]I wasn't aware there was a statute of limitations on being a dickhead. Aside from that, I was responding more to the notion that that was in any way 'destroying' her in a fashion which should be admired than the tweet itself.[/QUOTE] No, seriously, you massively exaggerated the importance and meaning of a stupid tweet between two stupid people.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;51068567]No, seriously, you massively exaggerated the importance and meaning of a stupid tweet between two stupid people.[/QUOTE] One of those two people is running for president of this country. They deserve the scrutiny. Could you give me one example in which Trump actually demonstrates genuine humility or compassion for humanity at large for a purpose that isn't self-serving or aggrandizing? I've been searching since the start of this election cycle and I haven't been able to find anything. I was originally in the camp that believed that Trump was 'too bad to be true' and that he was perhaps part of some crazy ploy to destabilize the Republican party, but I cannot find any evidence that he is by any measure a decent human being who cares about much other than his and his own. Perhaps you can prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068568]One of those two people is running for president of this country. They deserve the scrutiny.[/QUOTE] Sure. That's irrelevant to the asinine essay on why Trump tossing back an insult to Cher makes him literally hitler.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068568]One of those two people is running for president of this country. They deserve the scrutiny.[/QUOTE] For a pointless exchange which happened four years ago. They got over it, you should too.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068469]It's not in any way. His hair is something he has control over. He can change his hair, buy a wig, dye it, shave it, etc. The style he chooses looks ridiculous, in some peoples' opinions, which they have a right to express. The consequences and aftermath over time of her plastic surgeries is not something she realistically has control over. She mocked his hair, so he devised an incredibly passive-aggressive slam intended to belittle her publicly about what she may very well be most insecure about. It's disproportionate and ugly. You destroy someone when you in a single move or post deconstruct their argument, leaving them with no ground to stand on and causing them to fold either by going silent or admitting their error. He just insulted her in a mean and passive-aggressive way unbefitting of a presidential candidate. He's a narcissistic mammonist with a mean-streak, who somehow has come to contain the potential to ignite everything ugly within our nation's public conscious in ways unthought of before the start of this election season. The level of rhetoric has fallen so low because he gives his opponents nothing reasonable to respond to and is quick to change of obfuscate the meaning of what he said after the fact to avoid blame. He has no positions to fight, because they are all TBD, after he is elected on faith. He's engineered a national distrust in the media for all of the wrong reasons, and raised a frightening level of resentment towards the very democratic processes which have (despite their problems) kept this country from blowing apart like the many atomic bombs it contains.[/QUOTE] I dont like Trump any more than you but I think this is a bit much for a silly comeback

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068536]A presidential candidate's last childish come-back should have been about the time they were a child, or shortly thereafter. It speaks volumes about his mentality because it is textbook-Trump. It's not an anomaly, it is his normal means by which he handles criticism. How his camp has handled the entire Pepe "scandal" is more evidence of this complete lack of diplomacy or willingness to find a middle ground. His entire campaign is based on this premise. As president he will be the subject of more domestic and international criticism than he has ever faced in his life. Do you want to gamble the fate of this country on his temper and ability to be diplomatic? I don't. One vapid comment to the wrong person about the relative attractiveness of their family members could start an international incident. I don't think he has the self control.[/QUOTE] so many reasons to dislike or otherwise criticize trump and you're trying to spin his burning of cher as some deeply rooted evidence that he's an incapable manchild this is the type of stuff that gives the trump supporters fuel

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068568]Could you give me one example in which Trump actually demonstrates genuine humility or compassion for humanity at large for a purpose that isn't self-serving or aggrandizing?[/QUOTE]No, because I hardly think he has any of that, nor do I care honestly. Him being nice or expressing compassion or whatever wouldn't mean shit against his dumb ass hell policies, where those policies even exist. Be a dick all you want if you're right, I quite frankly don't care. Just be right, that's the important part to me. He's not right, so he can fuck off in to a ditch for all I care. [QUOTE]I've been searching since the start of this election cycle and I haven't been able to find anything. I was originally in the camp that believed that Trump was 'too bad to be true' and that he was perhaps part of some crazy ploy to destabilize the Republican party, but I cannot find any evidence that he is by any measure a decent human being who cares about much other than his and his own.[/QUOTE]I'm still not sure which he is, a legitimate dipshit trying to take power, or some plant to ruin the GOP. Again, don't especially care, I just don't want him in the white house. [QUOTE]Perhaps you can prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]Why would I?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;51068574]Sure. That's irrelevant to the asinine essay on why Trump tossing back an insult to Cher makes him literally hitler.[/QUOTE] Because one does not have to intend to be Hitler to become Hitler. All a dangerously populist politician has to do is use the right combination of inflammatory rhetoric at the right time in a nation's history and the entire thing practically unfolds on it's own. He incites enough hate, and the fringe people who support him will organize their own Kristallnacht, only against the Muslims. Too many people are seeing him as a Putin-esque baddass (which I still struggle to understand is an ideal thing), when he is just a charlatan capitalizing on their fears and promising nothing concrete in return. I'll admit I got a little carried away, but it is largely because I have read so many outrageous Trump-related news articles in the past several months that I myself struggle to comprehend the significance of it all. This does all carry some relevance however, as the entire thread is centered around a white nationalist symbol being shared by his son and not denounced by him, just as he refused to denounce his being endorsed by a former Grand Dragon of the KKK. Not denouncing fringe extremists legitimizes them.

[QUOTE=Cructo;51068602]Jesus, you actually do believe Pepe is a white nationalist symbol and not just a dumb meme[/QUOTE] It was just a dumb meme until it got defined by the media and public at large. Things do not strictly signify what you want them to - it is what the majority perceives it to signify that matters more than the subculture or individual that created it. If it is embraced by white nationalists, it will further cement its definition.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;51068607]It was just a dumb meme until it got defined by the media and public at large. Things do not strictly signify what you want them to - it is what the majority perceives it to signify that matters more than the subculture or individual that created it. If it is embraced by white nationalists, it will further cement its definition.[/QUOTE] The majority can think and say a lot of things, and even stupid people they are talking about can agree, but it actually means little.

Unless they all agree that you and all like you are universally contemptible for something like your race, sexual orientation, or religion. Then it tends to matter to you a lot personally, but to the majority very little. Also, I thought Archangel did a pretty good job of explaining how such appropriation occurs, regardless of how the people who created said content feel: [QUOTE=archangel125;51068478] Actually, I wanted to point something out about this Pepe thing. Whatever it was before, the fact that major news media has now associated it with white supremacy means that it is now a white supremacist symbol, and will remain one, as far as the country, the rest of the world, and anyone who didn't spend an inordinate amount of time on 4chan is concerned. By reporting it as such, they made it so. And I can promise you that white supremacist groups on the internet and elsewhere, that had no idea what pepe was before this report, will now start using the symbol to identify themselves. That's unfortunate, but whatever. It's just some stupid meme.[/QUOTE]

Holy fuck the paranoia in here is fucking amazing

[QUOTE=Tarver;51068706]Holy fuck the paranoia in here is fucking amazing[/QUOTE] This thread keeps giving. If pepe becomes a symbol of racism, so what? Any one who believes that can be marked as an idiot not to be taken seriously.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51068709]This thread keeps giving. If pepe becomes a symbol of racism, so what? Any one who believes that can be marked as an idiot not to be taken seriously.[/QUOTE] You realize that's like the majority of Americans now and a shitload of people around the world, right? Believe it or not, 4chan users do not make up a majority of the country's population. You'd better start treating that meme as the symbol that media has wrongfully portrayed it as, or you're likely to get in some serious shit if your use of it is connected with you IRL - At least if you want to maintain any career more serious than as a fry cook somewhere.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51068734]You realize that's like the majority of Americans now and a shitload of people around the world, right? Believe it or not, 4chan users do not make up a majority of the country's population. You'd better start treating that meme as the symbol that media has wrongfully portrayed it as, or you're likely to get in some serious shit if your use of it is connected with you IRL - At least if you want to maintain any career more serious than as a fry cook somewhere.[/QUOTE] The fact you're fucking scared of a fucking cartoon frog getting you fired or fucking up your career is proof all this PC is a mental illness and thus needs to be stopped. You created this witch hunt hysteria via being fanatical and unquestioningly for social justice. Now live with it. Now you might be able to figure out why many people are seeing such causes as toxic, harmful and not making progress towards any thing worth having. It not because they are racists or hate poor people. Its because they seen the monster that was being made. This all too similar to the satanic panics of the 80s and 90s. Its pure 100 percent bullshit and for the same reasons. As for being concerned? Im not. Any one who takes it seriously can be mocked into oblivion very easy. Real racist or other wise.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51068133]3:23 PM - 13 Nov 2012[/QUOTE] Technically he had ran for Pres in the 2012 election as well, so it's not surprising he'd post this after the election despite losing the convention.

I do not like trump >:(

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51068827]I do not like trump >:([/QUOTE] wtf i hate trump now

I was about to lament the fact that "ancient pop star rages at cartoon frog meme" actually made a headline in the news then I realized the source was a tabloid so now I feel better. Either way this whole Pepe thing is dumb.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51068061]Also how long will the media keep driving this narrative?[/QUOTE] Until there's more revenue in a different narrative.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51068734]You realize that's like the majority of Americans now and a shitload of people around the world, right? Believe it or not, 4chan users do not make up a majority of the country's population. You'd better start treating that meme as the symbol that media has wrongfully portrayed it as, or you're likely to get in some serious shit if your use of it is connected with you IRL - At least if you want to maintain any career more serious than as a fry cook somewhere.[/QUOTE] Welp, even though the media painting Pepe, a harmless fucking internet meme, as a racist symbol is a desperate attempt at isolating trump supporters, might as well just be a good boy and believe what the media tells me.. #NoMorePepe #RacistFrog The media have been doing this kind of demonizing since trump started being a threat. Now that they are attacking something that the internet is familiar with people are starting to catch on. Even if you not a trump supporter, letting the media get away with associating frog with white supremacy so it helps push their agenda is not okay.

This whole year feels like some weird, fever dream.

Pepe is a meme of peace

[QUOTE=archangel125;51068478]Trump's immature and insecure, what else is news? Actually, I wanted to point something out about this Pepe thing. Whatever it was before, the fact that major news media has now associated it with white supremacy means that it is now a white supremacist symbol, and will remain one, as far as the country, the rest of the world, and anyone who didn't spend an inordinate amount of time on 4chan is concerned. By reporting it as such, they made it so. And I can promise you that white supremacist groups on the internet and elsewhere, that had no idea what pepe was before this report, will now start using the symbol to identify themselves. That's unfortunate, but whatever. It's just some stupid meme.[/QUOTE] "Whatever its just a stupid meme" I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because the Media was trolled by someone because they don't fucking fact check and now we have them lying smirk and all to our faces till it becomes the truth with Hillary Clinton's nubby little money fingers all over because the entire story started where her Daughter works.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51068331]But thats a good comeback tho.[/QUOTE] "Haha you have shitty plastic surgery!" Hardly an epic comeback that destroyed Cher.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51068742]The fact you're fucking scared of a fucking cartoon frog getting you fired or fucking up your career is proof all this PC is a mental illness and thus needs to be stopped. As for being concerned? Im not. Any one who takes it seriously can be mocked into oblivion very easy. Real racist or other wise.[/QUOTE] News flash, there are people whose only exposure to Pepe is through the media. They wouldn't know any better. One of these people could be an employer. Regardless of what it "actually" means or doesn't mean, people are going to assume shit about you because of what they saw on the media. This is just how the world works.

[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;51069592]"Haha you have shitty plastic surgery!" Hardly an epic comeback that destroyed Cher.[/QUOTE] Uh, and "you got bad hair" is somehow the superior insult? [editline]18th September 2016[/editline] also FreakyMe holy shit my dude calm the fuck down, turn it down a couple notches.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51068742]The fact you're fucking scared of a fucking cartoon frog getting you fired or fucking up your career is proof all this PC is a mental illness and thus needs to be stopped.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking nuts [editline]18th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;51069689]Uh, and "you got bad hair" is somehow the superior insult? [editline]18th September 2016[/editline] also FreakyMe holy shit my dude calm the fuck down, turn it down a couple notches.[/QUOTE] No? Both of them were retarded. Nobody got destroyed, it's like a bunch of children on a playground spouting the first thing they can think of.