Deus Ex Team at Eidos Montral Working With Razer & Open Bionics on Deus Ex Inspired Prosthetics
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[QUOTE=hexpunK;50480046]The DeathAdder is probably one of their few products that consistently gets good feedback. I had to replace mine this year after 6 years of service or so as I broke the data cable between the main board and the daughterboard mounted in the upper shell when I disassembled it to clean the disgusting mess out.
Razer can make good products, but they are also the ones that have the least gimmicks.[/QUOTE]
yeah I'm not trying to defend them at all, I just really love my mouse, it may be the only thing they do right but it's a really great mouse.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50480063]yeah I'm not trying to defend them at all, I just really love my mouse, it may be the only thing they do right but it's a really great mouse.[/QUOTE]
Very comfortable too. Considering the age of it I couldn't really fault mine. I expect the newer models are much better in terms of tracking.
Interesting to see them get involved in this project, as they aren't the only company doing tracking technology. Most of their stuff isn't even breakthrough tier, it's largely applications of existing research.
[QUOTE=Luxuria;50479263]Stuff like this makes me wonder if prosthetics that work as fluently as they do in fiction will in the near or far future.[/QUOTE]
If they have enough time and money then yes. We're capable of creating spacecraft, we have discovered (temporary) levitation, we can transform electrical signals into chemical ones so blind ones can see again, and all this happened in the blink of an eye, relatively speaking of course compared to the creation of Earth.
Science has developed so amazingly fast it boggles the mind. It's only a matter of time before the line between science fiction and actual science becomes blurred.
If you look at the time since the creation of Earth and today, compress that into 24 hours and you marked the time where Homo Sapiens finished evolving, the mark would be on the 23:50:00 timestamp. The creation of Watt's steam machine would have to be rounded to the 4th decimal milisecond, and look what that machine brought forth.
I don't know if you feel like things are stagnating but if you told people 150 years ago we would be able to recreate a human eye, although very limited and with low resolution to be able to give the blind their sight back, the scientific community would just laugh at you. That eye example actually happened numerous times now, I love it.
I thought this was cool until I saw Razer.
I'd rather not have my bionic arm break after a few months thanks.
[QUOTE=lonefirewarrior;50480347]I thought this was cool until I saw Razer.
I'd rather not have my bionic arm break after a few months thanks.[/QUOTE]
Every time you move your fingers it goes CLACK! CLACK! CLACK! CLACK! CLACK!
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50479816]Oh yeah, I have no doubt we'll get there eventually! There's just a long way to go! It's very cool to see it being actively worked on, just the same. However small these feats seem to be, they're broadening our understanding and paving the way for future breakthroughs.[/QUOTE]
The great part is though, or at least it seems so to me, that we'll have that control problem solved sooner rather than later.
“I Never Asked for This"
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50480407]The great part is though, or at least it seems so to me, that we'll have that control problem solved sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly I saw a video once where they used the contraction and expansion of some shoulder muscles to interpet the desired motion. But that's still extremely rudimentary. Other solutions involve these stickers that interpet neural activity but that too is very prone to error. To this day I still wonder what exactly happens in the brain when a person decides to move their arm to grab that cup. I mean, of course, it's all neurons and receptors and chemical signals and what have you, but I wonder if it would be possible to detect what exactly happens in the brain when you want to tap a phone button. I mean the steps from the person thinking (although you don't really think it of course) 'I'm going to press that button' to the movement of the muscles to make the button press possible. Neuroscience is extremely intriguing to me.
I also wonder if it would be possible to detect thoughts somehow. How exactly does Hawking's speech device work, for that matter?
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
Oh wait I forgot this thread was about Razer and Deus Ex prosthetics please ignore my half-sleep deprived ramblings
Or don't the choice is all yours
Cant wait to see all the green LEDS tacked on to people
Mommy told me I could be anything I wanted so I became a bionic christmas tree
Tell some guy in the 90s that in 2016 video game companies are working with tech industries to create bionic limbs and he would just laugh at you.
[QUOTE=Crimor;50479180]Razer prosthetics must be the worst idea I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine?
"AAAAAAHH! I GOT BARRACUDAS FOR ARMS!"
When can I be a typhooned up hanzer?
boy I should replay HR.. I quite liked it.
Guys, how long until someone manages to hack one of those arms and do something scary with it? Hell, the yellow press would love something like that to call it Cyber-Possession or some shit
guys i don't think razer are actually building the thing
they're just doing the software for the motion tracked one
[QUOTE=The Commander;50480408]“I Never Asked for This"[/QUOTE]
I swear, if I'm ever in a Jensen-like accident and get full prosthetic limbs like this I will make use of that on a damn near daily basis.
[QUOTE=Mitchel.;50479214]Why?[/QUOTE]
Because obviously a Razer prosthetic for thousands of dollars will reflect the quality of their PC peripherals.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;50480992]Guys, how long until someone manages to hack one of those arms and do something scary with it? Hell, the yellow press would love something like that to call it Cyber-Possession or some shit[/QUOTE]
thats baseless fear because most if not all prosthetics dont have networking capability installed
[QUOTE=Recurracy;50482485]thats baseless fear because most if not all prosthetics dont have networking capability installed[/QUOTE]
I'd expect more advanced prosthetics to have wireless reconfiguration and telemetry features. Like other advanced implants already do.
I'd say the number one focus for modern day technology needs to be compact and accessible energy storage which will help majorly in important future technologies such as:
- Electric cars
- Green technology
- Power tools
- Prosthetics
- Smart devices
and power electronics / high density control electronics & electromagnetic devices for tech such as:
- Electric cars
- Power tools
- Prosthetics
- Smart devices
Maybe I should kick together some designs in CAD and give one of our suppliers a ring for some discount gear...
Could be fun to do a project of my own.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50479294]any razor product I buy has incredibly good software but really poor build quality
they go for looks over quality of build and functionality
EX: The orbweaver is a 100$ device which features glue that wears down under the rubber hand rest and eventually gets every where. Tons of amazon reviewers also had this.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever used a razer blade
[QUOTE=Rudevinny;50484017][t]http://xahlee.info/kbd/im/cym/Cyborg_RAT_5_gaming_mouse_2.jpg[/t]
Then you realize your new arms look like shitty gaming mice with a ridiculous amount of useless greeble. At that point the quote would just go from a videogame reference to a tragic madman's mantra.[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ, you could play Steel Battalion on that thing.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;50480992]Guys, how long until someone manages to hack one of those arms and do something scary with it? Hell, the yellow press would love something like that to call it Cyber-Possession or some shit[/QUOTE]
Why would you hook up your arm controls to the internet.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;50480992]Guys, how long until someone manages to hack one of those arms and do something scary with it? Hell, the yellow press would love something like that to call it Cyber-Possession or some shit[/QUOTE]
... You mean like in Deus Ex?
[QUOTE=Shirt.;50484393]Why would you hook up your arm controls to the internet.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://twitter.com/internetofshit[/url]
There are lots of things that shouldn't be hooked up to the internet but are.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50483078]I'd expect more advanced prosthetics to have wireless reconfiguration and telemetry features. Like other advanced implants already do.[/QUOTE]
It highly unlikely that the networking would connect to the control systems for the prosthetic however. Just monitoring systems that are entirely passive.
People "hijacking" your arm or leg is unlikely to be an actual problem. The most they could do would be to fuck with telemetry in this case. Which shouldn't impact using the device itself.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50485267]It highly unlikely that the networking would connect to the control systems for the prosthetic however. Just monitoring systems that are entirely passive.
People "hijacking" your arm or leg is unlikely to be an actual problem. The most they could do would be to fuck with telemetry in this case. Which shouldn't impact using the device itself.[/QUOTE]
You'd think that, but a lot of electronic devices are insecure because security (unlike [I]safety[/I]) has traditionally not been an issue for electrical engineers. They often won't think about isolating the control systems for security purposes.
Remember the [url=http://boingboing.net/2015/05/07/drug-pump-is-most-insecure.html]insulin pump?[/url] That shit only happens if none of the engineers working on it ever even [I]had[/I] (let alone considered) the idea that someone unauthorized might try to access it.
And I don't really blame them, that problem's caused by inadequate education (which was probably entirely adequate at the time it was given, too).
[QUOTE=Rudevinny;50484017]Then you realize your new arms look like shitty gaming mice with a ridiculous amount of useless greeble. At that point the quote would just go from a videogame reference to a tragic madman's mantra.[/QUOTE]
Hey, don't diss the RAT like that. I've had mine for about five years and its yet to disappoint me. I certainly wouldn't mind a pair of arms looking all edgy like that.
The day prosthetics are controlled directly by thought (or something somehow equally intuitive) is the day I will say "this is the future"
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