Internet Armageddon: Internet to be out of IP addresses within weeks
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[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;27569052]Holy Shit ! I wonder who will have the 255.255.255.255 Ip adress ! I could be awesome.[/QUOTE]
"255.255.255.255 is reserved for "limited broadcast" destination address [RFC0919] and [RFC0922]"
I have access to privately assigned (it's assigned to dad) IPv4 C chunk (255 addresses) from which maybe a tenth is used :v:
He also already has a /48 IPv6 subnet assigned for himself, which is 2^80 addresses (1208925819614629174706176).
It's funny. He has privately assigned much more addresses in IPv6 than there are in the whole IPv4.
Made me think of how much of a bitch it is going to be in games.
"Hey, join my CSS server"
"Sure, what's the IP?"
"2001:838:2:1::30:67"
Memorizing it is gonna be a bitch. :frown:
[QUOTE=Tools;27584655]Made me think of how much of a bitch it is going to be in games.
"Hey, join my CSS server"
"Sure, what's the IP?"
"2001:838:2:1::30:67"
Memorizing it is gonna be a bitch. :frown:[/QUOTE]
There are also A-F letters now.
acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc
most hardcore IP ever
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;27584604]I have access to privately assigned (it's assigned to dad) IPv4 C chunk (255 addresses) from which maybe a tenth is used :v:
He also already has a /48 IPv6 subnet assigned for himself, which is 2^80 addresses (1208925819614629174706176).
It's funny. He has privately assigned much more addresses in IPv6 than there are in the whole IPv4.[/QUOTE]
sonuvaBITCH
which registry does he work for :colbert:
He doesn't work directly at registry, but he works in telecommunication, so he has the contacts. Also, he got the IPv4 range ages ago, when they basically threw the ranges at anybody who at least knew what they are good for.
Gaaaahdamnit. I'm nowhere close.
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And APNIC wants at least four grand to do it in the clear :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Van-man;27567510]You've forgotten many ISP's still use outdated modems, that they let their customers rent/borrow until they terminate their service.
Also plenty of people also still have a router that's so old it only supports IPv4.
The key problem here is that they've literally waited unto shit's about to hit the fan to actually do something[/QUOTE]
Is there any other way around?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;27585111]He doesn't work directly at registry, but he works in telecommunication, so he has the contacts. Also, he got the IPv4 range ages ago, when they basically threw the ranges at anybody who at least knew what they are good for.[/QUOTE]
The ease of getting huge blocks is part of the problem IMO. I wonder how many people there are around the world sitting on thousands of IP's doing nothing with them.
[QUOTE=Kidd;27562519]2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334.
Good luck memorizing that.[/QUOTE]
you can shorten that to
2001:0db8:85a3::8a2e:0370:7334
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[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;27584903]There are also A-F letters now.
acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc
most hardcore IP ever[/QUOTE]
Look at [B];faceb00k;[/B] 's ip
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;27587785]you can shorten that to
2001:0db8:85a3::8a2e:0370:7334
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Look at [B];faceb00k;[/B] 's ip[/QUOTE]
too bad k isn't between A and F
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faceb004 at best
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;27584903]There are also A-F letters now.
acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc:acdc
most hardcore IP ever[/QUOTE]
The A-F letters are translated to hex. It would only be two letters per : though as one hex character is a two digit number.
Ex:
1015:1214 = af:ce
and it wouldnt work in some situations that have number sequences with something greater than 15
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[QUOTE=Nexus435;27587914]The A-F letters are translated to hex. It would only be two letters per : though as one hex character is a two digit number.
Ex:
1015:1214 = af:ce
and it wouldnt work in some situations that have number sequences with something greater than 15[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Each 4 symbols can go from 0 to up to FFFF.
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Ipv6_address_leading_zeros.svg[/IMG]
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Shamelessly stolen from wiki:
[IMG]http://www.sinus.cz/%7Emilan/IPv6_from_wiki.png[/IMG]
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Each 4 symbol string is conversion from 16 bits of binary. It has to be 4 digits (and letters) of hex or it would have to be 5 digits of decimal (that's not being used, as conversion from binary to hex is much easier than to decimal)
I wonder whether the rumors that APNIC are to be issued the last two free (for lack of a better word) /8s within the next week are true.
Hexadecimal mutha fuckas learn it
It's highly unlikely the average user'll have to do arithmetic with IPs, though.
I know but we're nerds so we should know this shit.
Hex <=> Bin is easy, you can learn the conversion fluently within hours.
But IPv6 is built such way that it shouldn't even be necessary to do any computations with the addresses. The whole thing is mostly meant to assemble on it's own.
I taught my mother how to count in binary and hexadecimal one day when I was bored, I'd expect "nerds" to understand it as well :v:
Edit: ^ because it has to be a power of 2, either 32, 64 or 128 bits. Not 36 Bits.
At least I have mine.
Went out and bought an AirPort (staff at the "other" store didn't know which was which and packaging didn't indicate) and now I find out my current modemrouter doesn't support dumb bridge mode :saddowns:
I better go buy a $3000 10 foot monster cable that supports IPv20
Someone buy the IPv6 address "BEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEE5"
[QUOTE=Weiss;27604701]Someone buy the IPv6 address "BEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEEE:EEE5"[/QUOTE]
Oddly enough, it isn't reserved by the IANA or allocated yet (public use goes from 2000:: to 3000::). I wonder how big a /2 is.
Cant they just lengthen IP adresses, from, for example:
11.11.111.111 to 11.11.111.111.111?
If it works.
[QUOTE=little.sparrow;27605964]Cant they just lengthen IP adresses, from, for example:
11.11.111.111 to 11.11.111.111.111?
If it works.[/QUOTE]
No, it has to be power of two for multiple reasons. It could be 64, tho. But if we do this with 128 bits now, we won't never EVER need to increase the pool ever again.
Yes, I am sure.
[QUOTE=little.sparrow;27605964]Cant they just lengthen IP adresses, from, for example:
11.11.111.111 to 11.11.111.111.111?
If it works.[/QUOTE]
That would break the IPv4 protocol.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;27606850]No, it has to be power of two for multiple reasons. It could be 64, tho. But if we do this with 128 bits now, we won't never EVER need to increase the pool ever again.
Yes, I am sure.[/QUOTE]
Check back with me the day we replace red blood cells with nanobots, each with a unique IP.
[QUOTE=HubmaN;27607240]Check back with me the day we replace red blood cells with nanobots, each with a unique IP.[/QUOTE]
Firstly, that would be incredibly moronic, why would that be anyhow useful. There's no reason why single cells would need to distinguish themselves outside the body.
Secondly, let's try completely CRAZY numbers let's say we for some reason go full retard and give each nanobot an IP.
Even if every single human had had a million nanobots with unique IPs in blood
there was a million human settled worlds
and on each there would be ten billion people
you would end up with need for 10000000000000000000000 addresses.
There's 340282366920938463463374607431768211456 possible addresses in the 128 IPv6.
NOPE, still few addresses left.
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