9/11 Truth movement holds series of press conferences
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I just searched google for ANY evidence indicating use of high explosives needed for what you are saying.
There's nothing at all indicating the use of explosives capable of tearing the structures apart.
There would be concrete turned into sand, and that would look very different to standard pulverised concrete under a microscope. There would also be microscopic tears and fractures in the steel rebar of the structure.
There were no fucking explosions caused by a detonating explosive unless you want to count the fuel in the plane mixing with the air and creating a fuel air blast.
It's funny how you completely disappear after your argument was destroyed last time, and you come back with this load of steaming horseshit.
Google is not the end-all database of knowledge on all their is you know... just for you, I ripped the article you were looking for STRAIGHT FROM THE OP.
[url]http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Harrit_active_thermite.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=VeoSeo24;25136830]You can lead a camel to water but you can't make it drink.[/QUOTE]
i hope you don't use that line when doing your term papers
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25136939]It's funny how you completely disappear after your argument was destroyed last time, and you come back with this load of steaming horseshit.[/QUOTE]
'Oh no, he's back with more evidence! Quick, discredit him with ad hominem before anyone can check the legitimacy of his claims!'
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25136988]'Oh no, he's back with more evidence! Quick, discredit him with ad hominem before anyone can check the legitimacy of his claims!'[/QUOTE]As i've said before, nothing you bring has any sort of legitimacy. There's no reason to attack anything other than the person, because the person is all there is.
Honestly, "Actors and Artists for 9/11 Truth"? The Danish scientist whose paper on "nano-thermite" was debunked a while ago? There is nothing new here.
What little respect I had for you (or restraint in calling you names) disappeared when you, without fail, disappear from every thread where you lose the argument.
[QUOTE=thisispain;25136955]i hope you don't use that line when doing your term papers[/QUOTE]
every term paper i write ever will now include this because of you
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lol poster above me, maybe you should check the links above you b4 you tell yourself that "hes the only person there is'"
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oh wait not actually checking the source is nothing new
[quote][B]"[URL="http://www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org/"]Actors & Artists for 9/11 Truth[/URL]"[/quote]
[/B]Why the fuck does being an artist or actor give your opinion and credentials?Miltary or Scientists I can understand because they might know some background material to do with this (even then I still think they're probably wrong)
Ask any of these people and they might tell you.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25136657][URL="http://www.ae911truth.org/"]Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth[/URL]
[URL="http://firefightersfor911truth.org/"]Firefighters for 9/11 Truth[/URL]
[URL="http://l911t.com/"]Lawyers for 9/11 Truth[/URL]
[URL="http://l911t.com/"]Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth[/URL][URL="http://l911t.com/"]
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[URL="http://patriotsquestion911.com/"]Patriots Question 9/11[/URL]
[URL="http://pilotsfor911truth.org/"]Pilots for 9/11 Truth[/URL]
[URL="http://pl911truth.com/"]Political Leaders for
9/11 Truth[/URL][URL="http://pl911truth.com/"]
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[URL="http://rl911truth.org/"]Religious Leaders for
9/11 Truth [/URL][URL="http://rl911truth.org/"]
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[URL="http://stj911.org/index.html"]Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice[/URL][URL="http://stj911.org/index.html"]
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[URL="http://physics911.net/"]Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven[/URL]
[URL="http://v911t.org/"]Veterans for 9/11 Truth[/URL][URL="http://v911t.org/"]
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I'll say again for you uneducated idiots.
CONCRETE AND STEEL REBAR DESTROYED BY THE SHOCKWAVE OF A SOLID COUPLED HIGH EXPLOSIVE IS LEFT WITH A FINGERPRINT THAT PROVES IT WAS DESTROYED BY A HIGH EXPLOSIVE
THERE WAS NO SUCH MATERIALS FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE OF ANY TOWERS.
[QUOTE=bravehat;25137218]I'll say again for you uneducated idiots.
CONCRETE AND STEEL REBAR DESTROYED BY THE SHOCKWAVE OF A SOLID COUPLED HIGH EXPLOSIVE IS LEFT WITH A FINGERPRINT THAT PROVES IT WAS DESTROYED BY A HIGH EXPLOSIVE
THERE WAS NO SUCH MATERIALS FOUND IN THE WRECKAGE OF ANY TOWERS.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org...e_thermite.pdf"]
[/URL][URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Harrit_active_thermite.pdf"][U]You are so wrong that your stupidity is starting to become a nuisance.[/U][/URL]
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25135595]Do I have to hold your hand too? There are multiple sources listed in the OP for you to dive into and find more information, I'm not going to baby you into figuring things out for yourself.
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'I saw something I didn't agree with, so I didn't bother to even acknowledge it. But you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about!1!11!' :downswords:[/QUOTE]
You know that anyone can post anything on the internet, don't you?
I don't see the point in wasting any more words on this thread
Actually no some more. If there was an NWO why would they want to fuck everyone over? Why would they want to kill everyone? That's the important question. Motive
I shouldn't have to tell you that one glimpse at that link isn't enough to think you know what you're talking about. Actually read for once
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[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;25137467]You know that anyone can post anything on the internet, don't you?
I don't see the point in wasting any more words on this thread[/QUOTE]
Fine. Get out. People who would rather have an open mind towards new ideas and hopefully don't feel the need to criticize others just for thinking differently will come and replace you. Science can only hope.
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Also, way to go ignoring all the links I posted like a stubborn jackass. That goes to all of y'all out there thinking that the burden of proof is only on me. You realize that by supporting the government's official story, you have to back it up too, right?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25137462][URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org...e_thermite.pdf"]
[/URL][URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Harrit_active_thermite.pdf"][U]You are so wrong that your stupidity is starting to become a nuisance.[/U][/URL][/QUOTE]
The irony is palpable it really is.
THERMITE ISN'T A HIGH EXPLOSIVE YOU FUCKING DOUCHEBAG!!!
NOW HERE'S THE KICKER FOR YOU!!
THERMITE IS IRON RUST AND ALUMINIUM.
GUESS WHAT WAS PRESENT AT THE SITE.
STEEL (iron alloy) AND AIRCRAFT GRADE ALUMINIUM, WITH JET FUEL WITH A FLASH POINT OF 47 DEGREES CENTIGRADE
BAM THERMITE REACTION AHOY!!
Now fuck off cum gargler before I get pissed off and pull out my fucking case studies.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25137462][URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org...e_thermite.pdf"]
[/URL][URL="http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Harrit_active_thermite.pdf"][U]You are so wrong that your stupidity is starting to become a nuisance.[/U][/URL][/QUOTE]
:irony:
[QUOTE=bravehat;25137611]:downswords:[/QUOTE]
Only looked at it for roughly, what, 10 seconds? Otherwise you'd know that although the title of the article mentions thermite, the scientific findings refer to NANO-THERMITE. Completely different in composition, size, and effect. My you really are dense. Before you post next time, maybe you should actually read into what you're arguing about and getting so mad over.
to all the people being sceptical that the two towers fell just from the plane impacts, let me make this abundantly clear:
[b]A fucking PLANE ran into a BUILDING almost 500m tall[/b]
Do you have any idea how much that building weighs? Or for that matter, how much the floors above the plane impacts weigh?
Can all you naysayers at least agree with me that a boeing 767 weighing somewhere in the region of 100+ metric tons filled with several thousand gallons of fuel ramming a building at full speed could cause some structural damage to a building not primarily built to withstand said plane impacts?
Think now that the plane damages one or several supporting sections. Above the impact is several dozen more floors weighing in at possibly several thousand tons. Would it be outside the realm of possibility that the planes simply damaged a few supporting beams, causing a chain reaction wherein the weight of the above floors rest on fewer supports than it was designed for, causing a single floor to fail entirely sending the above floors falling downward. This force generated by several thousand tons worth of office building falling could be quite significant, no? perhaps even effectively causing a domino effect of when one floor fails, the force of the above floors falling cause the below floors to fail, causing the building to collapse.
But no of course, planes at several hundred tons traveling at 600+kph does absolutley no structural damage to an office building it was obviously controlled demolitions by the US gvmnt to go to war over oil.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25137017]without fail, disappear from every thread where you lose the argument.[/QUOTE]
You speak as though the conclusion of every facepunch debate is infallible fact. When, in the real world, science works differently. For example; we used to be told that the earth was in fact, flat. Scientists spoke out against this flat out falsehood, but couldn't be proved certifiable until they were able to gather more evidence, reassert their claims, and convince people, slowly but surely, that their conclusion was the correct one (base on their evidence gathered). Now I'm not doing anyone an injustice by posting these discussions, but quite frankly it gets disheartening to continue replying once it has reached a point of literally nothing but flame-to-flame responses. That's when I re-gather evidence, reassert my point, and watch how it plays out.
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;25132199]I think most people will sit on the fence about this, reason being that thinking that the US government carried this out is extreme, yet to also think Al Quaeda could have carried out what was a fairly sophisticated attack, is also extreme, both eventualities are far fetched.
I work as a structural designer (one under structural engineer) and have always been fairly sceptical about the events of 9/11, a building just does not fail to fire like that, especially a steelwork structure.[/QUOTE]
It isn't that hard really, a group of high schoolers could probably theorize the plan, but putting it into action would be impossible as they're only high schoolers...but well, terrorists had better resources
Point is it isn't that hard
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25137851]You speak as though the conclusion of every facepunch debate is infallible fact. When, in the real world, science works differently. For example; we used to be told that the earth was in fact, flat. Scientists spoke out against this flat out falsehood, but couldn't be proved certifiable until they were able to gather more evidence, reassert their claims, and convince people, slowly but surely, that their conclusion was the correct one (base on their evidence gathered). Now I'm not doing anyone an injustice by posting these discussions, but quite frankly it gets disheartening to continue replying once it has reached a point of literally nothing but flame-to-flame responses. That's when I re-gather evidence, reassert my point, and watch how it plays out.[/QUOTE]
All that flat non-sense was pushed by the church
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[QUOTE=Nilrus;25137803]to all the people being sceptical that the two towers fell just from the plane impacts, let me make this abundantly clear:
[b]A fucking PLANE ran into a BUILDING almost 500m tall[/b]
Do you have any idea how much that building weighs? Or for that matter, how much the floors above the plane impacts weigh?
Can all you naysayers at least agree with me that a boeing 767 weighing somewhere in the region of 100+ metric tons filled with several thousand gallons of fuel ramming a building at full speed could cause some structural damage to a building not primarily built to withstand said plane impacts?
Think now that the plane damages one or several supporting sections. Above the impact is several dozen more floors weighing in at possibly several thousand tons. Would it be outside the realm of possibility that the planes simply damaged a few supporting beams, causing a chain reaction wherein the weight of the above floors rest on fewer supports than it was designed for, causing a single floor to fail entirely sending the above floors falling downward. This force generated by several thousand tons worth of office building falling could be quite significant, no? perhaps even effectively causing a domino effect of when one floor fails, the force of the above floors falling cause the below floors to fail, causing the building to collapse.
But no of course, planes at several hundred tons traveling at 600+kph does absolutley no structural damage to an office building it was obviously controlled demolitions by the US gvmnt to go to war over oil.[/QUOTE]
ur just a sheep, i lerned by facts from [url]www.conspiracy.org[/url] wake up!
You do know that thermite is a reaction right?
And you are the worst kind of idiot you know that right? You're the idiot who looks for evidence that can support your argument and you completely discount everything else.
I can give a basic rundown of how the all happened.
1. Planes hits tower and begins to leak fuel everywhere, in an oxygen rich enviroment.
2. Volatile fuel begins to disperse in the air nearing an ideal mix for an impromptu FAE
3. Localised structure is damaged when the plane hits, this leaves electrical cables live and exposed to the new Fuel-air mixture, and the massive shock from the hit rattles the structure loosening flakes of superficial rust onto the shredded aircraft and it's surroundings. These "flakes" also have a very high surface area due to the fact they are flakes, this allows for a very fast very efficient reaction.
5. Live wire sparks lighting the FAE which in turn lights the thermite mix.
6. Thermite weakens steel structure and the whole building comes down like a house of cards.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25135953]You guys all stopped posting about the actual topic about 20 posts in. Can you really not handle a discussion on 9-11 so much so that you bash the person until the thread dies?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, why bother? It always ends with you idiots acting like your conspiracy websites are more citable than the Government, or even News Organizations. Which makes it impossible to find sources you agree with because you just don't agree with anything if it disagrees with your conspiracy sites
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25137893]but well, terrorists had better resources
All that flat non-sense was pushed by the church
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Who has better resources to pull that off still? The government with control over all national defense agency's (which for about 2 hours went completely dead for whatever reason...)
Also, that's funny you'd mention the church. Seeing as how the United States of America is basically a christian nation.
[quote=bravehat;25137938]you do know that thermite is a reaction right?
And you are the worst kind of idiot you know that right? You're the idiot who looks for evidence that can support your argument and you completely discount everything else.
I can give a basic rundown of how the all happened.
1. Planes hits tower and begins to leak fuel everywhere, in an oxygen rich enviroment.
2. Volatile fuel begins to disperse in the air nearing an ideal mix for an impromptu fae
3. Localised structure is damaged when the plane hits, this leaves electrical cables live and exposed to the new fuel-air mixture, and the massive shock from the hit rattles the structure loosening flakes of superficial rust onto the shredded aircraft and it's surroundings. These "flakes" also have a very high surface area due to the fact they are flakes, this allows for a very fast very efficient reaction.
5. Live wire sparks lighting the fae which in turn lights the thermite mix.
6. Thermite weakens steel structure and the whole building comes down like a house of cards.[/quote]
wake up!!!!!!!!1
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25137992]Who has better resources to pull that off still? The government with control over all national defense agency's (which for about 2 hours went completely dead for whatever reason...)
Also, that's funny you'd mention the church. Seeing as how the United States of America is basically a christian nation.[/QUOTE]
That power thing was just another example pointing out that the plan wasn't hard to orchestrate, it was hard to put into action, which terrorists would have been able to do.
And no not as much as you seem to imply
[QUOTE=bravehat;25137938]
I can give a basic rundown of how the all happened.
1. Planes hits tower and begins to leak fuel everywhere, in an oxygen rich enviroment.
2. Volatile fuel begins to disperse in the air nearing an ideal mix for an impromptu FAE
3. Localised structure is damaged when the plane hits, this leaves electrical cables live and exposed to the new Fuel-air mixture, and the massive shock from the hit rattles the structure loosening flakes of superficial rust onto the shredded aircraft and it's surroundings. These "flakes" also have a very high surface area due to the fact they are flakes, this allows for a very fast very efficient reaction.
5. Live wire sparks lighting the FAE which in turn lights the thermite mix.
6. Thermite weakens steel structure and the whole building comes down like a house of cards.[/QUOTE]
Even so. The findings show that there was tons of thermite found. Even with the aluminum from the fuselage and all that, there wouldn't be TONS of thermite created from the reaction. The thermite had to have been placed there before hand.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25138042]Even so. The findings show that there was tons of thermite found. Even with the aluminum from the fuselage and all that, there wouldn't be TONS of thermite created from the reaction. The thermite had to have been placed there before hand.[/QUOTE]
since when was there tons of thermite found
So after calling out that ad hominem is fair in your case, you start a new thread. What's your point Shukaido, you aren't getting anywhere like this with your NWO and debunked crap. Free fall happens when something is, I don't know, free.
When you drop something it's falling freely. Different but the same in a building.
Besides, you still haven't come up with an explanation for the nano-thermite...
who says there was nano-thermite?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25138117]Besides, you still haven't come up with an explanation for the nano-thermite...[/QUOTE]
You still haven't given a single document of proof referencing nano-thermite other than that one PDF...
The only "proof" that implies that 9/11 was a conspiracy is untrustable conspiracy theorist garbage
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