9/11 Truth movement holds series of press conferences
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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25138042]Even so. The findings show that there was tons of thermite found. Even with the aluminum from the fuselage and all that, there wouldn't be TONS of thermite created from the reaction. The thermite had to have been placed there before hand.[/QUOTE]
There were no "tons" of it found. There was a lot found, but there's also no way that thermite would be used in this situation. Why the fuck do you fucking troofers have to ignore what thermite is and act like it's helping you? Thermite is the WORST THING IN THE FUCKING WORLD TO USE FOR A JOB LIKE THIS. Those steel bars you claim cut with thermite? Thermite can't cut like that. Thermite can't do what would be needed here.
The researchers found studies done on nano-thermite as early as 2000 that showed the following:
[Quote]Safe handling of the malleable sol-gel material allows
easy coating of surfaces (such as steel), which the same
group, in a subsequent report, says they have achieved.
“The sol-gel process is very amenable to dip-,
spin-, and spray-coating technologies to coat
surfaces. We have utilized this property to dipcoat
various substrates to make sol-gel
Fe2O3/Al/Viton coatings. The energetic coating
dries to give a nice adherent film.” “We have
prepared fine powders, pressed pellets, cast
monoliths, and thin films of the hybrid inorganic/
organic energetic nanocomposite” [25].
[B]Thus, the energetic nano-composite can be sprayed or
even “painted” onto surfaces, effectively forming an energetic
or even explosive paint[/B]. The red chips we found in the
WTC dust conform to their description of “thin films” of
“hybrid inorganic/organic energetic nanocomposite”.[B] Indeed,
the descriptive terms “energetic coating” and “nice adherent
film” fit very well with our observations of the red-chips[/B]
which survived the WTC destruction.[/Quote]Here's the actual picture of the nano-thermite chips mentioned in the scientific document:
[IMG]http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9411/nanicq.jpg[/IMG]
Keep trying to make me look like a fool all you want, it won't change anything.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25137992]Who has better resources to pull that off still? The government with control over all national defense agency's (which for about 2 hours went completely dead for whatever reason...)
Also, that's funny you'd mention the church. Seeing as how the United States of America is basically a christian nation.[/QUOTE]
if the government had the ability to plant thousands of lbs of nano-thermite into the WTC without anyone knowing about it, they would have the ability to prevent THOUSANDS OF LBS OF THERMITE from being found.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139225]The researchers found studies done on nano-thermite as early as 2000 that showed the following:
Here's the actual picture of the nano-thermite chips mentioned in the scientific document:
[IMG]http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9411/nanicq.jpg[/IMG]
Keep trying to make me look like a fool all you want, it won't change anything.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is nano thermite, and that is how it's used.
[b]Now please explain why they needed tons of nano thermite paint which could not, I repeat, COULD NOT, cut through the steel bars you say it cut through. Why is it needed?[/b]
Yeah, you found out what nano thermite is, great for you! Guess what, it's still not a high explosive. Do you even get what the term [b]high explosive[/b] means or do you think anything that vaguely fits will support your bullshit?
Their findings on the amount of material that could be ascertained from the clouds of dust from the WTC.
[quote]In the sample provided by collector J. MacKinlay the
fraction of red/gray chips was roughly estimated. Fifteen
small chips having a total mass of 1.74 mg were extracted
from a 1.6 g sample of dust from which readily identifiable
glass and concrete fragments had been removed by
hand. Thus the fraction of red/gray chips was approximately
0.1% by weight in the separated dust Another sampling
showed 69 small red/gray chips in a 4.9 g sample of separated
dust. Further samples are being analyzed to refine this
estimate. The fall of the WTC Towers produced enormous
clouds of dust whose total mass is difficult to ascertain; but
clearly the total mass of red/gray chips in the WTC dust
must be substantial given the fraction observed in these samplings.[/quote]Also, would you consider TNT, a 'high explosive'? Well consider this:
[quote]A graph in an article on nanostructured energetic materials
[21] shows that the energy/volume yield for Al/Fe2O3
composite material exceeds that of TNT, HMX and TATB
explosives commonly used in demolitions (see Fig. (30)).[/quote]In science talk that means that, yes, that shit is pretty powerful.
"science talk"
lol
One more, just to beat a dead horse.
[quote]Again,
conventional thermite is regarded as an incendiary whereas
super-thermite, which may include organic ingredients for
rapid gas generation, is considered a pyrotechnic or explosive
[6, 24].[/quote]
"911 Truth" is a religion
no matter how many times you disprove their bullshit they will always believe, because they WANT to believe.
You mind sourcing this all? I'm sure it's some badly made conspiracy site, but still.
[QUOTE=ketchup;25139379]"science talk"
lol[/QUOTE]
Sorry I didn't mean to belittle you. Next time I'll just say 'big words'.
added quote to clarify whom it was directed toward to avoid any unneeded butthurt
Shukaido, what kind of building structure were the Trade Towers?
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;25133863]So explain to me why the U.S. government would want to blow their own buildings, Im not feeling too clever right now.[/QUOTE]
The general belief among conspiracy theorists is that it was done to bring attention to Islamic terrorists and gather support for a potential war against them.
It's understandable if someone were to believe that the government took advantage of the disaster, but some people don't think it was simply a coincidence one of the two wars that followed 9/11 had very questionable reasoning behind it.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139397]Sorry I didn't mean to belittle you. Next time I'll just say 'big words'.[/QUOTE]
So anytime someone says anything to you that would generally warrant a proper correct response based on the materials you misunderstood, you just act like a fucking 5 year old? And you want people to listen to you?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139397]Sorry I didn't mean to belittle you. Next time I'll just say 'big words'.[/QUOTE]
"Hey look guys, I'm a stuck-up asshole who thinks I'm smarter than all of you. Cynicism is in!"
Bam! Credibility lost.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25139461]So anytime someone says anything to you that would generally warrant a proper correct response based on the materials you misunderstood, you just act like a fucking 5 year old? And you want people to listen to you?[/QUOTE]
I was responding to the person acting like a 5 year old, like a 5 year old. If that's how you want to see it. If it's not directed towards you, why should it detract at all from the overall message if someone else who chooses to act like a child is the one trying to detract from its validity?
ShukaidoX, you've got to be one of the worst fucking posters here. I've seen the other arguments where you drop out the second people don't just take your word for the shit you spew, then you post links like what you've posted here, basically the most biased shit possible built on a foundation of misunderstanding and ignorance and naivety then when confronted about that, you respond like a fucking 5 year old.
If you wanted to make the case for 9/11 troofers, you'd just make it look like the government killed you because no amount of speech that comes out of you mouth is going to save your cause.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139534]If it's not directed towards you, why should it detract at all from the overall message if someone else who chooses to act like a child is the one trying to detract from its validity.[/QUOTE]That sentence made so little sense as to hardly warrant being called a statement. You have successfully butchered the English language with one sentence, and I think everyone here just lost an IQ point because of you.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139309]Their findings on the amount of material that could be ascertained from the clouds of dust from the WTC.
Also, would you consider TNT, a 'high explosive'? Well consider this:
In science talk that means that, yes, that shit is pretty powerful.[/QUOTE]
it's still not a high-explosive. nanothermite does not produce a shockwave, and has a relatively low explosive velocity.
nanothermite explosive velocity - ~350m/s
([url]http://www.mrs.org/s_mrs/sec_subscribe.asp?CID=2642&DID=115853&action=detail[/url])
TNT explosive velocity - ~7000m/s
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139534]I was responding to the person acting like a 5 year old, like a 5 year old. If that's how you want to see it. If it's not directed towards you, why should it detract at all from the overall message if someone else who chooses to act like a child is the one trying to detract from its validity?[/QUOTE]
I won't even begin on your incredible alternate reality that you must live in to hold such views.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139534]I was responding to the person acting like a 5 year old, like a 5 year old. If that's how you want to see it. If it's not directed towards you, why should it detract at all from the overall message if someone else who chooses to act like a child is the one trying to detract from its validity?[/QUOTE]
Because it reflects on you as a person. If you sink to their level and do the same kind of name-calling, you're not really any better.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;25139437]Shukaido, what kind of building structure were the Trade Towers?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wtc+building+structure"]Let me google that for you.[/URL]
I'm still waiting on that source for all the information post, ShukaidoX.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139644][URL="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wtc+building+structure"]Let me google that for you.[/URL][/QUOTE]
You see, this is why no one takes you seriously. Goose already knows, you don't, and it's on this ignorance and fucking stupidity you've built a fortress of other equally stupid ideas.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25139644][URL="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wtc+building+structure"]Let me google that for you.[/URL][/QUOTE]
You're not clever. We've been using that longer than you've been around these parts.
oh god lol
Why would a government kill all those people, just to start a goddamn war to get some oil?
If you're going to convince us, you're going to have to prove you know what you're talking about. You have to be professional, otherwise we won't trust you and anything you have to say becomes worthless.
Right now, you're acting extremely immature and are refusing to acknowledge any viewpoint other than your own. You're slowly digging yourself a pit and I think you're already past the point where you can climb out of it.
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;25139696]oh god lol
Why would a government kill all those people, just to start a goddamn war to get some oil?[/QUOTE]
Because real life needs some over arching plot to give it meaning to some people.
I seriously think conspiracy theorists are just people who refuse to believe that the world has no over arching plan, and that life is not like a movie at all, so they imply these stories over it to make themselves feel better.
Although I do acknowledge what I said was childish. Shit posting got to me and I was immature, that I do acknowledge. Regardless of what's been said this discussion shouldn't be derailed to focus on that.
Hey, since he keeps citing bullshit sources, can I cite [B][I]BULLSHIT![/I][/B] as a source? They have an entire episode dedicated to conspiracy theories.
Still haven't gotten a source.
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