Two Muslim religious leaders removed from flight because pilot refused to fly with them - Polidicks

Hillbilly's piloting planes these days?

[QUOTE=DogGunn;29674801]What happens if they were yelling at flight attendants? What happens if they started a fight with another passenger? Something else that caused the pilot to use his authority to evict? The airline has made no comment - so we're left solely to discuss based on their version of the events, which could very well have left out some information. The pilot probably was racist, but people jump to conclusions too early.[/QUOTE] There were about 200 others on the plane, I think one of them, if this guy was doing something radical, would speak up. Even then, it's pretty clear this is just a case of a shit head racist. The article paints a pretty clear picture because of how open it is.

[QUOTE=King Flawless;29674821][img_thumb]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z8YpHeK3F9E/TYGwj7tX8NI/AAAAAAAAAVY/prLXzIB5yiQ/s1600/world_trade_center_1160603_1.JPG[/img_thumb] That's why[/QUOTE] That was because of political shit, not islam.

[QUOTE=pal670;29674714]There was a famous historical representation that shows how it works, a Muslim entered into a small city, eventually brought his family in under the pretense that he was a humble trader wanting to move. A few months down the line, whilst the city slept, he opened the gates to others from his original city, and they murdered all the townsfolk in their sleep and claimed the city for their own.[/QUOTE] what a dickhead [b]good thing 99.9% of muslims aren't like this[/b]

Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”

[QUOTE=King Flawless;29674821] That's why[/QUOTE] um those guys weren't checked properly. they had knives on them. in this story, the guys didn't have knives. or anything. they were checked properly on updated security protocol since 9/11 and were allowed to board the plane

[QUOTE=pal670;29674774]And also “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” 9.123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you”[/QUOTE] Further prove: واضاف "لكن هؤلاء الاعداء من الألغام ، والذين لا يريدون لي أن حكم عليهم، وتقديمهم إلى هنا واقتلوهم في وجودي Translation: "But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence." Except it is not a translation. And it is not in the Qur'an but in the Bible. Luca 19:27 look it up.

This is sickening: Mohammed said: “No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (infidel).”(Hadith vol. 9:50) No matter what you say, there is NO way you can interpret that as anything but hatred.

[QUOTE=King Flawless;29674821][img_thumb]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z8YpHeK3F9E/TYGwj7tX8NI/AAAAAAAAAVY/prLXzIB5yiQ/s1600/world_trade_center_1160603_1.JPG[/img_thumb] That's why[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00797/war-pearl-harbour_797450c.jpg[/img] They should block dem Japs for this travesty And they should block Ben Aflack for this travesty as well. [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uyG4chGu9h4/TUBRxXfPkwI/AAAAAAAADPQ/zN7ZSrjXIC8/s1600/pearl+harbour.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=pal670;29674774]And also “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” 9.123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you”[/QUOTE] it says "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that god is righteous." Says nothing about arms or weaponry.

I don't disagree with this, but I'm not a racist bigot.

[QUOTE=pal670;29674844]Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”[/QUOTE] metaphor seriously it's a book. maybe 2000 years ago you could read it like this and accept it but not today. if you do you're a fundamentalist idiot 2000 years ago you also used to get executed for tiny petty crimes but yeh guess what? it ain't fuckin 2000 years ago now bro maybe the original form of islam is violent. so? so was christianity. get over it.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;29674855]um those guys weren't checked properly. they had knives on them. in this story, the guys didn't have knives. or anything. they were checked properly on updated security protocol since 9/11 and were allowed to board the plane[/QUOTE] I believe they had box cutters, which I believe were allowed on at the time.

[QUOTE=amute;29674883][img_thumb]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00797/war-pearl-harbour_797450c.jpg[/img_thumb] They should block dem Japs for this travesty And they should block Ben Aflack for this travesty as well. [img_thumb]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uyG4chGu9h4/TUBRxXfPkwI/AAAAAAAADPQ/zN7ZSrjXIC8/s1600/pearl+harbour.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] That's all fiction

[QUOTE=pal670;29674844]Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/surah8_12.htm[/url] I can take quotes out of context toooooo I like how you complain people don't research when you haven't, y'know, researched. btw, what does this have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=pal670;29674844]Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”[/QUOTE] okay yeah this is in there

[QUOTE=amute;29674825]There were about 200 others on the plane, I think one of them, if this guy was doing something radical, would speak up.[/QUOTE] Where'd you get that figure from? Not everyone opens up to the media. Regardless, not every flight eviction is covered by the media - and only this event was after they went to the Islamic-American organization. [QUOTE=amute;29674825]Even then, it's pretty clear this is just a case of a shit head racist.[/quote] Maybe so, if the events in the story are completely factual with no omissions. [QUOTE=amute;29674825]The article paints a pretty clear picture because of how open it is.[/QUOTE] The language paints a clear picture, not the evidence. As I said before, this was probably due to the pilot's racism, but don't pretend it's clear cut from the article.

[QUOTE=King Flawless;29674916]That's all fiction[/QUOTE] What, Ben Aflecks talent?

Well that's just being stupid now.

[QUOTE=amute;29674935]I like how you complain people don't research when you haven't, y'know, researched. [/QUOTE] hey he has researched only it sounds like all his research came from the fucking EDL

[QUOTE=DogGunn;29674943]Where'd you get that figure from? Not everyone opens up to the media. Regardless, not every flight eviction is covered by the media - and only this event was after they went to the Islamic-American organization. Maybe so, if the events in the story are completely factual with no omissions. The language paints a clear picture, not the evidence.[/QUOTE] The people who witnessed this shit and experienced it told them what happened. You're complaining that the airline, people who weren't even there, not getting a word in somehow means the article is bias and the muslim guy is TOTALLY at fault?

[QUOTE=Kendra;29674959]Well that's just being stupid now.[/QUOTE] ... osama wanted imams kicked off planes?

The eviction was complete racist bullshit, that's why it was covered by the news.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;29674973]... osama wanted imams kicked off planes?[/QUOTE] He means the fear and paranoia he's caused.

[QUOTE=amute;29674968]The people who witnessed this shit and experienced it told them what happened. You're complaining that the airline, people who weren't even there, not getting a word in somehow means the article is bias and the muslim guy is TOTALLY at fault?[/QUOTE] What witnesses? I see nothing in the article talking about witnesses... I'm not complaining about anything. Not sure where this bias crap comes from.

[QUOTE=Lizard Of Guilt;29674942]okay yeah this is in there[/QUOTE] People who say 'But you can take anything out of context' well how the fuck do you live your life? If someone says to you 'I am going to kill you' while pointing a gun at you, do you say to them 'But how do you mean that? It could mean you want to smite me with your harsh words, or to dominate me in the sporting arena!' No, sometimes you just know how it is meant, and you gotta take it as that. Otherwise you are just trying to avoid conflict, the fact the Qur'an has over 1100 references to murder/beheading/war with disbelievers, should warrant that.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;29674943]Where'd you get that figure from? Not everyone opens up to the media. Regardless, not every flight eviction is covered by the media - and only this event was after they went to the Islamic-American organization. Maybe so, if the events in the story are completely factual with no omissions. The language paints a clear picture, not the evidence. As I said before, this was probably due to the pilot's racism, but don't pretend it's clear cut from the article.[/QUOTE] If there was something more to it I think the pilot would have tried to talk and justify it. [editline]7th May 2011[/editline] but noooo

[QUOTE=pal670;29675008]People who say 'But you can take anything out of context' well how the fuck do you live your life? If someone says to you 'I am going to kill you' while pointing a gun at you, do you say to them 'But how do you mean that? It could mean you want to smite me with your harsh words, or to dominate me in the sporting arena!' No sometimes you just know how it is meant, and you gotta take it as that. Otherwise you are just trying to avoid conflict, the fact the Qur'an has over 1100 references to murder/beheading/war with disbelievers, should warrant that.[/QUOTE] You've yet to mention one. You've taken out of context one, completely misinterpreted several others. You know what? We can continue this argument later, but for now, I want to know what the FUCK does any of this have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=pal670;29675008]People who say 'But you can take anything out of context' well how the fuck do you live your life? If someone says to you 'I am going to kill you' while pointing a gun at you, do you say to them 'But how do you mean that? It could mean you want to smite me with your harsh words, or to dominate me in the sporting arena!' No, sometimes you just know how it is meant, and you gotta take it as that. Otherwise you are just trying to avoid conflict, the fact the Qur'an has over 1100 references to murder/beheading/war with disbelievers, should warrant that.[/QUOTE] Still not any worse than the bible or the torah.(though I'm not as familiar with the torah)

[QUOTE=pal670;29675008]People who say 'But you can take anything out of context' well how the fuck do you live your life? If someone says to you 'I am going to kill you' while pointing a gun at you, do you say to them 'But how do you mean that? It could mean you want to smite me with your harsh words, or to dominate me in the sporting arena!' No, sometimes you just know how it is meant, and you gotta take it as that. Otherwise you are just trying to avoid conflict, the fact the Qur'an has over 1100 references to murder/beheading/war with disbelievers, should warrant that.[/QUOTE] so? it has thousands more references to peace and love [b]same with the bible[/b] [i]"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34 [Jesus] said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one..." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. Luke 22:36,38[/i] [img]http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/cruel.jpg[/img] you're a biased and ignorant fool and yes i do take into account that the bible is much longer and has more passages so it doesn't quite add up but the point still stands; many religions are violent as fuck. stop pinning it all on islam. here's something nice moses said about philistines: [i]"31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."[/i]