Man sentenced to life in prison for...smoking weed.
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Tobacco, alcohol
Both legal, both lethal
MJ, illegal
In only the most insane circumstances, lethal
I'm ok with this. He was selling it.
Sure weed harms no one, but it's not legal yet, so don't expect to get off free for selling it.
It's like complaining for getting busted for selling pirated movies.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;29715585]Explain.[/QUOTE]
See En-Guage's response.
Nice job rating dumb by the way; it was your inability to see my point that was the problem.
he's got a point
It's wrongly illegal but it's still a fact
I think we're better off with it illegal really
[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;29712867]Misleading topic title. He was arrested for selling weed ("distributing"), not smoking it.
Still BS though.[/QUOTE]
Fucking OP, you're trying to set a flame war?...
Anyway, bullshit.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29715607]I'm ok with this. He was selling it.
Sure weed harms no one, but it's not legal yet, so don't expect to get off free for selling it.
It's like complaining for getting busted for selling pirated movies.[/QUOTE]
That's a bad comparison. There's a good reason pirating movies is illegal. There's no [I]good[/I] reason for marijuana to be illegal.
I think there is
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if weed became commercially available everywhere, there would be UNTOLD problems
All the potheads can attest, ah bro it's harmless, but it wouldn't be.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;29715647]I think there is[/QUOTE]
Ok, shoot.
reasons explained in edit
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at the end of the day, it's still a drug
if it was easier to get, it might be more of a gateway drug to more people.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;29715647]I think there is
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if weed became commercially available everywhere, there would be UNTOLD problems
All the potheads can attest, ah bro it's harmless, but it wouldn't be.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, You can't really say that.
Not everyone smokes, not everyone drinks. Why would everyone do pot?
(And if you mean it'd obstruct production; So does alcohol)
Not sure how to respond
I'm not going to attack weed, I love my MJ, I'm just giving my opinion
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;29715647]I think there is
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if weed became commercially available everywhere, there would be UNTOLD problems
All the potheads can attest, ah bro it's harmless, but it wouldn't be.[/QUOTE]
Holland did it, and they aren't exactly a cesspool of criminal activity. That's a pretty vague and bad example. It's just a prediction. And there's no indication that it'll happen.
I'm pretty sure the man knew the gravity of the crimes.
So that's just too fucking bad, wrong place at a wrong time.
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On a side note, he wasn't arrested for just smoking weed. Also drug dealing, he had pounds of weed in his home.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29715607]I'm ok with this. He was selling it.
Sure weed harms no one, but it's not legal yet, so don't expect to get off free for selling it.
It's like complaining for getting busted for selling pirated movies.[/QUOTE]
Instead of throwing him in prison, why not try to rehabilitat him and make sure he didn't get life.
Oh right, this is america where punishment is supposed to deter from doing illegal things. :lol:
At face value it seems Mr Hood is indeed guilty, but the question arises- how is it that we can possibly send a man to jail for life simply for the possession of marijuana? Was it his attempts to distribute that sealed the nail on the coffin, which goes beyond the act of simply possession? Or are we to interpret the punishment as a heavy handed sentence that fails to deal with the reality that most repeat drug offenders are only hurting themselves, be it for the sake of their own consumption or the sake of financing the means to continue consumption for oneself? Or was Mr Hood, just a repeat offender, who after been given a number of chances unwilling to comply with the law despite what he must have understood to be the consequences if he got caught one more time?
[url]http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2011/05/marijuana-conviction-lands-man-life-in-prison/[/url]
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;29715658]reasons explained in edit
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at the end of the day, it's still a drug
if it was easier to get, it might be more of a gateway drug to more people.[/QUOTE]
Alcohol is a drug and also acts as a "gateway" drug in accordance with the wonderful magical gateway theory.
This is bullshit.
I wish coffee became illegal so people would see how stupid this prohibition really is, it only wastes money, lives and supports international drug and gun business.
Also, if you still are uninformed about this shit being a gateway drug, I suggest reading this.
[url]http://www.knowledgerehab.com/?p=80[/url]
@everyone talking about weed and how good it is for whatever purpose and you smoke it so that makes it ok and it's a harmless drug and blah blah blah
you're stupid shut up learn to read sometime
this is not about weed
it is about a man with a child who just got sentenced to life in prison because of a rule that should not exist
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maybe that was a little harsh, but i don't care, i'm tired of going into every news thread pertaining to weed and always seeing that one guy who starts it off with "PFF NO BIG DEAL WEED IS A HARMLESS DRUG I DO IT ALL THE TIME :smug:" followed by a shitstorm
Sure, weed has harms like any other drug but it cannot compare to the personal and societal harms of alcohol and tobacco consumption.
Well, it's not really about weed, it's about a guy having a couple pounds of plant matter that he might have sold to support his family.
And it landed him in prison for life. The child won't have a father, because he's in jail because of a law that shouldn't have passed in the first place.
[QUOTE=Kelju;29716807]Well, it's not really about weed, it's about a guy having a couple pounds of plant matter that he might have sold to support his family.
And it landed him in prison for life. The child won't have a father, because he's in jail because of a law that shouldn't have passed in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, it seems very extreme even if he was selling an illegal substance...
Basics:
1. This man committed a crime. While it is our duty to fight unjust laws, he still broke it, and was caught. He must be punished no matter what. He was selling weed while under probation. In fact, he had quite a bit of it, two pounds to be exact.
2. From their point of view, the man is a few things:
a. A career criminal. He repeatedly violated the law to sell drugs.
b. A drug dealer. In theory, drug dealers bring violent crime and hurt other people through dealing drugs. To them, locking him up is a good thing.
c. Unreformable based on his history.
3. No matter how harmless his crime actually was, and how absurd his sentence was, he did fit criteria that make it reasonably valid.
What do you do with a criminal who refuses to be reformed? You don't put him on the streets, you sentence him to a long time in prison.
He's had multiple probations before now and in fact was under probation during this time period. He appeared unreformable and therefore he "deserved" it.
I don't agree with it at all, but there is some halfway decent logic here.
Gateway drugs are gateway drugs because they are illegal.
Once you take the step to obtain an illegal substance, it lowers the treshold to obtain other illegal substances as well.
So to stop marihuana from being a gateway drug, it should be legalized.
[QUOTE=V12US;29717261]Gateway drugs are gateway drugs because they are illegal.
Once you take the step to obtain an illegal substance, it lowers the treshold to obtain other illegal substances as well.
So to stop marihuana from being a gateway drug, it should be legalized.[/QUOTE]
i see it being a gateway drug because people might like the marijuana high, and would seek something more powerful. (but nevermind i thought gateway drug was just a word)
[QUOTE=Ghostwork;29717347]i see it being a gateway drug because people might like the marijuana high, and would seek something more powerful.[/QUOTE]
That's not how highs work.
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In fact, what's generally suggested to oppose gateway theory are a few factors:
1. Individuals who do these drugs are willing to try them anyway, and the order they try them in is just because of how easy they are to get.
2. Marijuana, because of its illegality, exposes users to the illegal world, and therefore gives them access.
3. The fact that early drugs they try, often the more easily obtainable ones such as Marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, appear to them and feel entirely different and harmless from what all the anti-drug messages they hear makes it so that all anti-drug messages and information is questioned and left less credible.
There have been studies showing both the theorized "gateway drug" effect and the lack of such an effect. More studies have shown that it either doesn't exist, or if it does exist it's largely correlation, not causation.
Nothing compares to being baked, people use drugs for their initial effects, not because they seek to surpass the high of marijuana.
Often people have to buy pot from some shady fellow or somekind of a pusher of all sorts of illegal narcotics, and end up buying some meth because "it's a dry season, man."
Human nature is a gateway drug, kill everyone.
Derp.
It's gateway because people who deal weed usually also deal harder drugs.
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