Cannabis Extracts Kills Cancer Cells in Cancer Sufferers - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28317568]I don't give a fuck about sounding moderate, so no. Making it legal and unregulated? Well, obviously people are going to get it, but hey, why not just make it legal for kids to buy cigs? Or alcohol. Same shit. "regulation" goes as far as buying age, or in a world where people actually went by doctors referrals and asked doctors about what they could do, would get it that way. also, how in the fuck is this inflamatory? It's not like your pointing out a huge flaw here. [editline]27th February 2011[/editline] The only country that I know of that DOESN'T grow industrial hemp, is the US.[/QUOTE] Actually in the event that we're legalising dope for whatever reason, far better for there to be regulation than unregulation. Of course drug dealers will still sell cheap, nasty drugs, but at least there'd be a safer(?) alternative.

Didn't everyone know this for years now? Decades even?

[QUOTE=Murkat;28317724]Didn't everyone know this for years now? Decades even?[/QUOTE] Yes, but now there's an actual legitimate source to it, even if there's already been one but this one is completely modern.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28317568]Making it legal and unregulated? Well, obviously people are going to get it, but hey, why not just make it legal for kids to buy cigs? Or alcohol. Same shit.[/QUOTE] Yeah, exactly! Most teens have access to alcohol and tobacco anyhow, so why have it illegal? Shouldn't that be the parent's responsibility, and if the "kid" isn't supervised or dependent on the parent anymore, shouldn't it be their own responsibility at that point? [QUOTE]"regulation" goes as far as buying age, or in a world where people actually went by doctors referrals and asked doctors about what they could do, would get it that way. [/QUOTE] everything i said up there but about Marijuana. [QUOTE]also, how in the fuck is this inflamatory? It's not like your pointing out a huge flaw here. [/QUOTE] Oh sorry, my post had a lot less racial slurs in it than I remember writing, must've been another thread.

[QUOTE=Esteam;28317768]Yes, but now there's an actual legitimate source to it, even if there's already been one but this one is completely modern.[/QUOTE] This source is awful. Go and actually look at it on the company's site.

holy shit, I think I'm going to start smoking weed again, it'll cancel out the ciggarette intake

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28317712]Actually in the event that we're legalising dope for whatever reason, far better for there to be regulation than unregulation. Of course drug dealers will still sell cheap, nasty drugs, but at least there'd be a safer(?) alternative.[/QUOTE] yeah, there might be a tiny black market, but even then, that's not much of an issue, and the vast, vast majority of drug buys, would likely be legal. [editline]27th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Pockets;28317774]Yeah, exactly! Most teens have access to alcohol and tobacco anyhow, so why have it illegal? Shouldn't that be the parent's responsibility, and if the "kid" isn't supervised or dependent on the parent anymore, shouldn't it be their own responsibility at that point? everything i said up there but about Marijuana. Oh sorry, my post had a lot less racial slurs in it than I remember writing, must've been another thread.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but parents suck and we both know that. It's better to just have it like that. Yeah, the rule will be broken, that's just unavoidable. Just change the drinking age accordingly. I like countries like Canada and France, Canada has it at 19, and 18 in some areas, and france I believe is 17. I think having it that low is much better than at the ridiculous age of 21, where the rule just becomes entirely ignored. I think it might be easier for most kids to wait to 18 or 17 than bother to find a boot or something. most. Though, that is hypothetical.

WEEDZ GOOD FOR THE CANCER, AND THE SOUL ~420~smoke weed erryday~420~

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;28309686]and if you do stupid enough shit while high on cannabis so that police puts a gun to your head, the plant is not to be blamed.[/QUOTE] AHAHAHA Never smoked it have you? Worst thing I've ever done stoned is hog the joint and eat all the prawn crackers we had. Didn't stick my dick in anyones eye, didn't try to fly, didn't hurt anyone, didn't get all edgy, and didn't do anything dangerous. You're a fucking retard boyo. [editline]27th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;28315369]More like you used a personal attack in response to my own rebuttal. Sounds like ad hom bullshit to me.[/QUOTE] You know you've consistently sucked ass at debating every time I've saw you argue on facepunch. I myself slayed you with your nano thermite bullshit when it came to the twin towers conspiracy crap. [editline]27th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28316458]Dude the links between cannabis and schizophrenia are well documented. It's not just "one study". e.g. [url]http://bipolar.about.com/od/relateddisorders/a/schizo_pot.htm[/url] Don't try and write it off.[/QUOTE] Dude, the link between ganja and mental illness isn't that ganja causes it, it reveals it, just like all other psycho active drugs do. And that's well documented, when I get home later tonight I'll find studies that back up my point, in work just now. [editline]27th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28317712]Actually in the event that we're legalising dope for whatever reason, far better for there to be regulation than unregulation. Of course drug dealers will still sell cheap, nasty drugs, but at least there'd be a safer(?) alternative.[/QUOTE] Safer? Yeah of fucking course it would be, instead of risking some wanker pouring glass fragments and powder into the pot when its growing you can actually make sure the fucker who grows it is held accountable for any ganja that's got dangerous additives and shit.

I'm pretty sure they're not going to just hand out joints to cancer patients. Rather, they would extract the active molecule and produce that instead.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28317910]Yeah, but parents suck and we both know that.[/QUOTE] I dunno man, I've never felt that way, but hey. I mean, there's always gonna be the parent that buys their 6 year old child cocaine laced S&M pornography and then feeds them the charred bodies of raped and murdered nuns, there's always gonna be a few like that here and there, but for the most part I have faith in the competence of my fellow citizen to raise their own damn children the way they see best. [QUOTE]It's better to just have it like that. Yeah, the rule will be broken, that's just unavoidable. Just change the drinking age accordingly.[/QUOTE] OK, yeah, but you could use the exact same "the rule will be broken" argument for keeping weed illegal or even reinstating prohibition and "better to just have it like that" sounds pretty subjective to me. Maybe it would be better if Parents and Adolescents alike weren't treated like toddlers who need to be constantly monitored and protected and punished by their government that the latter isn't even allowed to vote for to begin with! Maybe [i]everyone would die,[/i] but probably not. Who made you the supreme chancellor of the Better-Like-That Committee, anyhow? edit: ok i admit that last line is pretty immature but I'm gonna leave it in there anyhow.

Didn't we already know this for a long time?

[QUOTE=Pockets;28318560]I dunno man, I've never felt that way, but hey. I mean, there's always gonna be the parent that buys their 6 year old child cocaine laced S&M pornography and then feeds them the charred bodies of raped and murdered nuns, there's always gonna be a few like that here and there, but for the most part I have faith in the competence of my fellow citizen to raise their own damn children the way they see best. OK, yeah, but you could use the exact same "the rule will be broken" argument for keeping weed illegal or even reinstating prohibition and "better to just have it like that" sounds pretty subjective to me. Maybe it would be better if Parents and Adolescents alike weren't treated like toddlers who need to be constantly monitored and protected and punished by their government that the latter isn't even allowed to vote for to begin with! Maybe [i]everyone would die,[/i] but probably not. Who made you the supreme chancellor of the Better-Like-That Committee, anyhow? edit: ok i admit that last line is pretty immature but I'm gonna leave it in there anyhow.[/QUOTE] I did :smug: honestly, i can't say for sure, and I wont' pretend to. In an argument, you have to make it sound like you do, but really, we're all just as clueless as the next guy. I'm personally in the vein of thought that either way, it's irrelevant. Nothing major will really change for any of us. And I agree, it would be nice if people were treated like they were capable, but that kind of requires people to be capable, and I know many are, but there's also a lot of idiots around. Though, I can't tell them what to do, nor do I want to. It's a big issue and I'll be honest, I have conflicted feelings about much of it. It could very well work just fine your way, it could work fine my way. Who the fuck knows?

People are trying to make Cannabis look so much better then what it really is. Sorry this is fact, i hope your damn bandwagon crash and burns.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28319194]People are trying to make Cannabis look so much better then what it really is. Sorry this is fact, i hope your damn bandwagon crash and burns.[/QUOTE] It's a useful plant. It was estimated in the 1940's in the brief period of time it was legalized that it was utilized for over 25,000 textile products and for over 5,000 medical products of various forms(The oils are good for that apparently). It's not a miracle plant, but it should be legal. It's not a miracle plant, but it's better than alcohol. It's not a miracle plant, but it's fucking close.

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28319194]People are trying to make Cannabis look so much better then what it really is. Sorry this is fact, i hope your damn bandwagon crash and burns.[/QUOTE] "Shit they found scientific evidence that doesn't fit my agneda, what the fuck do I do now?" "Same as Always. deny deny deny, then insult them, then deny some more" And have you ever wondered why it has a bandwagon thing going in medicine? take a wild guess, a stab in the dark. Because it's actually useful.

Most of the people who want it kept illegal, have no idea why it was ever made illegal in the US in the first place.

Soon Steven Jobs is smoking cannabis. Because of his cancer.

And its still illegal? God damn any soccer moms that chant about it being bad.

[QUOTE=s0beit;28312120]People probably smoke around 1000% more plant matter when it comes to tobacco, no that isn't an actual figure but you get the point. 1-2 pack(s) a day is insane compared to 1 joint a day That said, i don't believe weed is the savior of the human race until i have some scientific evidence explaining why, or more importantly how. Bronchitis also sucks.[/QUOTE] Well, Cigarettes, the buzz off them they don't last very long, So people want the effect to continue for longer and longer which leads to Mental Addiction to Physical. Unlike pot smokers ~ 4-5 bong rips for every 6 hours, it lasts long, Feel great, and doesn't make you feel sick!Its all about your psychology man. Sorry for typing like this its just i'm a bit baked.

[QUOTE=Shenanagoats;28319304]"Shit they found scientific evidence that doesn't fit my agneda, what the fuck do I do now?" "Same as Always. deny deny deny, then insult them, then deny some more" And have you ever wondered why it has a bandwagon thing going in medicine? take a wild guess, a stab in the dark. Because it's actually useful.[/QUOTE] Sure it's not as bad as most people want it to look, but it sure as hell don't cure cancer either or make your shit gold. Legalize it will probably do more good then bad i can agree with that. But it's no fucking super plant that will make the world a better place. Hmm perhaps it is where can i buy some.

really you guys need to get out of the extremes here. cannabis isn't some magical treatment that will cure everything and make you feel awesome 24/7. nothing like that exists. at the same time though, it isn't an addictive instant death machine. people call that heroin. cannabis can POTENTIALLY (note - POTENTIALLY, that's not a guarantee) reduce your chances of getting cancer (even then your chances are only marginally reduced), but it can also POTENTIALLY increase your chances of getting schizophrenia. along with that there's the idea of smoking it, which of course is bad for your lungs. (if it makes you cough you're causing irritation down there, which can lead to a LOAD of crap down the line). cannabis isn't perfect guys, but it's not horrible. end of story

...It can't GIVE you skitzofrenia. It has to be latent. If you don't have skitzofrenia, it's literally impossible for it to develop solely from smoking weed. otherwise, yeah, it's not a miracle plant, but it does have it's uses and it's much better legal than not.

[QUOTE=Archy;28323106]really you guys need to get out of the extremes here. cannabis isn't some magical treatment that will cure everything and make you feel awesome 24/7. nothing like that exists. at the same time though, it isn't an addictive instant death machine. people call that heroin. cannabis can POTENTIALLY (note - POTENTIALLY, that's not a guarantee) reduce your chances of getting cancer (even then your chances are only marginally reduced), but it can also POTENTIALLY increase your chances of getting schizophrenia. along with that there's the idea of smoking it, which of course is bad for your lungs. (if it makes you cough you're causing irritation down there, which can lead to a LOAD of crap down the line). cannabis isn't perfect guys, but it's not horrible. end of story[/QUOTE] Your still not even making a correct point. It's good to admit the faults of marijuana, but you are inaccurate. There is nothing to prove that it will increase your chances of schizophrenia. Yes it is a bit of a debated area, but there are no studies to prove causation while there are a number of studies that show it doesn't cause it. So as of now, there is some connection, but it seems as though smoking marijuana would only increase the risk of mental illness in people who are already at risk (genetically). I can imagine this has been touched upon plenty of times in this topic. I don't understand why "smoking is bad" is accepted as common knowledge. The studies done with marijuana show that there are negative effects with heavy smoking (smoking heavily almost everyday for 20 years). There is nothing to show that smoking marijuana in moderation can create any permanent negative effects. To go a bit beyond this, there is a huge issue with long term smoking studies because the subjects aren't just smoking marijuana, they've also have done other drugs and likely have smoked cigarettes. I'm not using this as a point to show that the claims that smoking heavily for a long period of time is bad, but rather I'm just stating that these studies are hard to validate. A lot of people who smoke marijuana get depersonalization and derealization. Some people don't mind is, but with some people it drives them crazy. A decent number of people develop panic attacks. About 10% of people are at risk of addiction due to having addictive personalities. It can do temporary damage to your lungs. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28324485]...It can't GIVE you skitzofrenia. It has to be latent. If you don't have skitzofrenia, it's literally impossible for it to develop solely from smoking weed.[/QUOTE] I'm kind of pointing out something you may know, but you can develop the condition due to an incident of extreme shock. Would marijuana have caused it? No, not at all. But if the person was a smoker, they'd be likely to smoke to help cope with the shock and that has potential to worsen and bring out the condition even further. Not surprisingly, psychoactive are bad for schizophrenics. My main point is that the cause isn't just genetic. It'd probably better for someone to smoke marijuana to cope with the shock than drink beer, because heavy drinking is far more dangerous.

So government....how bout that pot legalization? They really are running out of arguments though. Why not treat it like alcohol and only make it 18-21 and over. Its not like that would be hard.

[QUOTE=Archy;28323106]really you guys need to get out of the extremes here. cannabis isn't some magical treatment that will cure everything and make you feel awesome 24/7. nothing like that exists. at the same time though, it isn't an addictive instant death machine. people call that heroin. cannabis can POTENTIALLY (note - POTENTIALLY, that's not a guarantee) reduce your chances of getting cancer (even then your chances are only marginally reduced), but it can also POTENTIALLY increase your chances of getting schizophrenia. along with that there's the idea of smoking it, which of course is bad for your lungs. (if it makes you cough you're causing irritation down there, which can lead to a LOAD of crap down the line). cannabis isn't perfect guys, but it's not horrible. end of story[/QUOTE] Sorry bro but you're wrong about the schizophrenia. It can only make [i]already existing[/i] mental conditions worsen, meaning that you can't "get" schizophrenia from cannabis. Only if you actually have schizophrenia in the first place can it do damage to you.

The real issue with it being leaglized is that the US cant figure out a way to place a tax on it. Canada cant legalize it because then the US wont trade with them. It all comes down to the US being greedy, ignorant, and stubbourn

[QUOTE=desertsniper;28325359]The real issue with it being leaglized is that the US cant figure out a way to place a tax on it. Canada cant legalize it because then the US wont trade with them. It all comes down to the US being greedy, ignorant, and stubbourn[/QUOTE] Why would the US not trade with Canada if they were to legalize marijuana? I think that's a really unrealistic scenario. The US isn't the bane of all evil here, it's illegal almost all over the world.

Let the herb grow free!

They say its their special extract that makes it work, when in reality cannabis is far more effective left alone as a plant with the full mix of over 60 cannabinoids, but big pharma can't patent a plant.