The Official Inauguration of Donald J. Trump News Thread: Reality sets in Edition - Polidicks

[QUOTE=EcksDee;51700417]Thanks indeed to a broken system which is the definition of gerrymandering in that it gives certain groups of people more voting power than others. Democracy![/QUOTE] But without the Electoral College only two major cities would determine every election!!!!

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51700420]So this is what a 37% approval rating looks like. [url]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/315223-poll-trump-approval-rating-hits-new-low-hours-before[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] The survey from Fox News [/QUOTE] Well that's just unfortunate.

Well lads, it's happening

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51700420]So this is what a 37% approval rating looks like. [url]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/315223-poll-trump-approval-rating-hits-new-low-hours-before[/url][/QUOTE] You're comparing the first black president against an average white guy. Apples and oranges

[QUOTE=UziXxX;51700433]You're comparing the first black president against an [U]average[/U] white guy. Apples and oranges[/QUOTE] [I]Average[/I] Mate I defend Trump on posts and even I know thats a joke

Remember everyone. The electoral college is ok as long as it helps you win! [t]http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-shot-2016-11-10-at-9.57.16-AM.png[/t] [t]https://m.elitestatic.com/m/3f739be60eec3438/donald-trump-lost-electoral-college-tweet.jpg[/t] [t]http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2016/11/11/donald-trump-tweets-2012-1478856552%20-%20lbc.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51700419]I didn't know the will of the districts wasn't more important than the will of the democrats. Like it or not, and regardless of Gerrymandering, Trump destroyed Hillary when it came to district votes.[/QUOTE] But was this fair? The unfair boundary favoring their party, whether it's Republicans or Democrats, is not the way of the fairness that America was supposed to be I kinda worded it weirdly, but you get what I mean

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51700407]It was however, the will of many, many more districts that Hillary received, and a majority of the states.[/QUOTE] Which is meaningless and just reflects why the system needs to be reformed, nationally as much as locally. Otherwise, voting basically becomes meaningless when you have gerrymandering and archaic institutions that can waltz in and say, "Well yeah, Candidate X did receive more votes than Candidate Y and clearly has the majority support of the people... but fuck them, we want Candidate Y to win, so we're handing them the election because we can."

[QUOTE=UziXxX;51700433]You're comparing the first black president against an average white guy. Apples and [B]oranges[/B][/QUOTE] That was intentional right lol

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51700390]I hope the Dems track more left actually. They're too centre-right IMO.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about Dems going further left (that's a good thing). I fear the rise in popularity of radical left (alt-left?), which is possibly going to make the left-wing candidate a left-wing Trump of sorts - preaching outright hate against any remotely right-wing and "majority" (meaning anybody not a minority of some sort) populace. Which is going to radicalize the right even further, and at this point, we could very well enter a vicious cycle. If we want sane people in the USA govt, we need to support people like Bernie Sanders on the left, and Evan McMullin on the right, and fight any radicalisms.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51700436][I]Average[/I] Mate I defend Trump on posts and even I know thats a joke[/QUOTE] Yeah he's well below average.

[QUOTE=UziXxX;51700433]You're comparing the first black president against an average white guy. Apples and oranges[/QUOTE] Not at all. Also apples and oranges are round, grow on trees and are fruit. This Bonmot is pretty retarded. I would like you to differentiate them in the fruit basket without comparing them.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51700439]Remember everyone. The electoral college is ok as long as it helps you win! [t]http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-shot-2016-11-10-at-9.57.16-AM.png[/t] [t]https://m.elitestatic.com/m/3f739be60eec3438/donald-trump-lost-electoral-college-tweet.jpg[/t] [t]http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2016/11/11/donald-trump-tweets-2012-1478856552%20-%20lbc.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Republicans are the only ones who have benefited from it. That's why they don't want to see it go. It was the only thing that allowed Trump to "win", it was also the only thing that allowed Bush to "win" in 2000 even though Gore defeated him by more than 543,000 votes.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51700436][I]Average[/I] Mate I defend Trump on posts and even I know thats a joke[/QUOTE] I mean... Obama changed history- he made history. Trump is just a part of history.

[QUOTE=Govna;51700454]Republicans are the only ones who have benefited from it. That's why they don't want to see it go. It was the only thing that allowed Trump to "win", it was also the only thing that allowed Bush to "win" in 2000 even though Gore defeated him by more than 543,000 votes.[/QUOTE] Considering it was originally a compromise between the framers and the slave economy of the south, the fact that it primarily helps conservatives should not be altogether surprising.

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51700460]Considering it was originally a compromise between the framers and the slave economy of the south, the fact that it primarily helps conservatives should not be altogether surprising.[/QUOTE] Who's surprised?

[QUOTE=UziXxX;51700433]You're comparing the first black president against an average white guy. Apples and oranges[/QUOTE] Could be attributed to the race, part of it probably is at least, but it might also have to do with the fact that Obama ran a similarly populist campaign of an outsider against an establishment in Washington while also not pissing off literally every demographic. [editline]20th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Govna;51700454]Republicans are the only ones who have benefited from it. That's why they don't want to see it go. It was the only thing that allowed Trump to "win", it was also the only thing that allowed Bush to "win" in 2000 even though Gore defeated him by more than 543,000 votes.[/QUOTE] If Clinton had lost the popular vote and won the EC every single poster who has defended the EC and called it more fair and more democratic would be currently losing their minds trying to figure out ways to scrap it. That's just how this shit works.

If Trump actually cared about how Democracy works like he so claimed in the tweets. He should have stepped down once he learned that he won and didn't get the popular vote.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51700474] If Clinton had lost the popular vote and won the EC every single poster who has defended the EC and called it more fair and more democratic would be currently losing their minds trying to figure out ways to scrap it. That's just how this shit works.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't. If clinton lost the pop and won the EC then we would be in exactly the same situation of an unfair system electing someone that the people didn't want. Just the unintended consequence of that would be vaguely positive (if Hillary won) instead of monumentally awful (as in this reality we're in now)

[QUOTE=UziXxX;51700433]You're comparing the first black president against an average white guy. Apples and oranges[/QUOTE] Photo on the left: President inauguration Photo on the right: President inauguration where the president boasted having record-breaking crowds

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51700474] If Clinton had lost the popular vote and won the EC every single poster who has defended the EC and called it more fair and more democratic would be currently losing their minds trying to figure out ways to scrap it. That's just how this shit works.[/QUOTE] the electoral college has exclusivley benefited republicans

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51700460]Considering it was originally a compromise between the framers and the slave economy of the south, the fact that it primarily helps conservatives should not be altogether surprising.[/QUOTE] Seeing how democrats basically start with at least a guaranteed 200+ electoral votes and republicans start with less than 200, I'd say it's the opposite.

[QUOTE=Judas;51700494]the electoral college has exclusivley benefited republicans[/QUOTE] *and even if it hadn't, it would still be an awful system.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51700365]If this is true, I don't want to hear one fucking word about how big the crowds were from that dickhead. [img]https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114008_10154744295155519_3531677750790954556_n.jpg?oh=12c7bafa62a6cb84883c0c36f47a812c&oe=59057EE6[/img][/QUOTE] Can't help but feel people are intentionally not thinking about things. 1993 Bill Clinton - est 800,000 1997 Bill Clinton - est 250,000 2001 George W Bush - est 300,000 2005 George W Bush - est 400,000 2009 Barack Obama - est 1,800,000 2013 Barack Obama - est 1,000,000

[QUOTE=Govna;51700454]Republicans are the only ones who have benefited from it. That's why they don't want to see it go. It was the only thing that allowed Trump to "win", it was also the only thing that allowed Bush to "win" in 2000 even though Gore defeated him by more than 543,000 votes.[/QUOTE] Just think where we'd be on climate change if Al Gore was president.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51700474]If Clinton had lost the popular vote and won the EC every single poster who has defended the EC and called it more fair and more democratic would be currently losing their minds trying to figure out ways to scrap it. That's just how this shit works.[/QUOTE] Maybe for them that's how things work. I've wanted it abolished since I was a kid though and saw Gore get fucked over though. Gerrymandering also needs to be abolished. It could and should be a simple matter of "one person = one vote, the candidate with the most votes wins", which would be especially sensible for the national presidential election. But it's not going to be that way because that's not a system that's easy to manipulate and run like it's nothing but a big game. [QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51700506]Just think where we'd be on climate change if Al Gore was president.[/QUOTE] I seriously think about that almost every single day. Not only where we'd be on climate change policy either, but also how things would be different with regards to our national science and technology initiatives. I wonder about what would've happened with 9/11 and Afghanistan and Iraq, I wonder about what would've happened with the 2004 election, what would've happened with the Great Recession... Road not taken. Unfortunately.

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Hey remember all those "day 1" promises that Trump made? Lets see if he can even do a third of them.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51700369] OFC the crowds were bigger for Obama's first inauguration, He was the [U][B]THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT TO BE INAUGURATED[/B][/U]. Everybody wanted to be a part of history by going down to D.C and watching it.[/QUOTE] It also really helped that Obama is a decent human being who strived to be a competent leader.

[QUOTE=NoobSauce;51700539]It also really helped that Obama is a decent human being who strived to be a competent leader.[/QUOTE] also not a racist