Portland residents panic as men armed with assault weapons ‘educate’ the city - Polidicks

Oh what the shit, I didn't even know about this. 'Maybe next time we walk around carrying rifles, people will be curious instead.' Genius

Personally if I were to orchestrate a mass-OC protest it would be something that looked more... like a protest. Bright t-shirts and banners with rifles slung and magazines out, etc. That would get the point across better.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39218117]Personally if I were to orchestrate a mass-OC protest it would be something that looked more... like a protest. Bright t-shirts and banners with rifles slung and magazines out, etc. That would get the point across better.[/QUOTE] All though I'm down with gun rights, and all that... That's just asking for the lite match in a powder keg.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;39218137]All though I'm down with gun rights, and all that... That's just asking for the lite match in a powder keg.[/QUOTE] If it's done legally and confirmed with the owner of the grounds they're protesting on, I wouldn't see a problem with it.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39218159]If it's done legally and confirmed with the owner of the grounds they're protesting on, I wouldn't see a problem with it.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't mind it much myself either, but openly protesting with hundreds OC'ing would be asking for trouble in some areas.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;39218172]I wouldn't mind it much myself either, but openly protesting with hundreds OC'ing would be asking for trouble in some areas.[/QUOTE] If it's well organized and done at a state capital or somewhere similar, I doubt it could cause [i]too[/i] much trouble.

[QUOTE=ijyt;39214084]The people chastising the two guys make it sound like they were running around with the guns in hand, pointing it at people and shouting gibberish. They were walking around calmly with them on their backs, in no way wielded in a threatening manner. Stop overreacting.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I just don't understand when you enter a bank or a shop wearing a balaclava, people panic. Stop overreacting.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39218045]Public ignorance is no reason to restrain a practice that has done no harm.[/QUOTE] "Public ignorance" - towards what, might I ask? Guns out in the open? Why would one need to carry a rifle in public? You have the right, but that doesn't mean you should. Unless you have a really good reason to do it, you shouldn't.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39218515]"Public ignorance" - towards what, might I ask? Guns out in the open? Why would one need to carry a rifle in public? You have the right, but that doesn't mean you should. Unless you have a really good reason to do it, you shouldn't.[/QUOTE] I don't understand your thought process where one needs an immediate and objective reason to do something that harms no one. This seems like an incredibly restrictive philosophy.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39218515]"Public ignorance" - towards what, might I ask? Guns out in the open? Why would one need to carry a rifle in public? You have the right, but that doesn't mean you should. Unless you have a really good reason to do it, you shouldn't.[/QUOTE] People shouldn't be scared of a gun. If you have the right to do something, by all means excessive it as long as it's not hurting anyone. Soccer moms getting scared isn't really a reason not to do something.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;39218686]I don't understand your thought process where one needs an immediate and objective reason to do something that harms no one. This seems like an incredibly restrictive philosophy.[/QUOTE] I think the difference is in mindset. I personally (and judging from [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1239415&p=39212244&viewfull=1#post39212244]this post[/url] a lot of people agree) find that it is weird when people carry something into town, that is essentially made to kill. I know it can be fun firing down at the range or whatever, but it has no place in public, just like people find it weird when people wear bikinis in the winter. I know that most gun owners are reasonable people, but there's still a share of people out there that is not, and you should consider that. A law may not be ideal, but this kind of behaviour should't be something people do for the sake of doing it. Carrying your rifle from your house to the truck is just fine, but taking it for a stroll in the city serves no purpose, other than making people feel uneasy. [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39218821]People shouldn't be scared of a gun. If you have the right to do something, by all means excessive it as long as it's not hurting anyone. Soccer moms getting scared isn't really a reason not to do something.[/QUOTE] I'm not scared of a gun, I'm scared by whatever person that is walking around with it in public for no apparent reason. And just because you have a right doesn't mean you should exercise it whenever you can - free speech for example. Yeah, Westboro Baptist Church has the right to say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they should. This video shows very well what I'm talking about: [video=youtube;sj9wahCTz08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9wahCTz08[/video]

Frankly I didn't think this was allowed. Always thought weapons needed to be stowed, or just concealed with a permit. Guess it depends state to state but it's understandable people would be highly suspicious of somebody walking around with a carbine slung over their shoulder.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39218828] I'm not scared of a gun, I'm scared by whatever person that is walking around with it in public for no apparent reason. And just because you have a right doesn't mean you should exercise it whenever you can - free speech for example. Yeah, Westboro Baptist Church has the right to say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they should. This video shows very well what I'm talking about: [video=youtube;sj9wahCTz08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9wahCTz08[/video][/QUOTE] That video isn't a good example, people like the guy filming go out to try and make it feel like their rights are being threatened. They just stand on a street corner and try and scare people and wait for the police to get called on them (and for the record he had a .22lr clone of an MP5, lol). I honestly don't give a shit what the WBC says, they're all fools and if you're smart enough to understand they're fools, you should be smart enough to tune them out. And if you're not going to exercising your right, theres not really any point in having it. I'm not saying everyone should go to work with an AR slung over their shoulder, but they shouldn't have the police called on them for doing so. [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;39218908]Frankly I didn't think this was allowed. Always thought weapons needed to be stowed, or just concealed with a permit. Guess it depends state to state but it's understandable people would be highly suspicious of somebody walking around with a carbine slung over their shoulder.[/QUOTE] Like you said, it depends on the state. In Alaska you can open carry or conceal carry without a permit, but in Florida you can't open carry unless you're hunting or going hunting.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39218979]That video isn't a good example, people like the guy filming go out to try and make it feel like their rights are being threatened. They just stand on a street corner and try and scare people and wait for the police to get called on them (and for the record he had a .22lr clone of an MP5, lol). I honestly don't give a shit what the WBC says, they're all fools and if you're smart enough to understand they're fools, you should be smart enough to tune them out. And if you're not going to exercising your right, theres not really any point in having it. I'm not saying everyone should go to work with an AR slung over their shoulder, but they shouldn't have the police called on them for doing so. [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] Like you said, it depends on the state. In Alaska you can open carry or conceal carry without a permit, but in Florida you can't open carry unless you're hunting or going hunting.[/QUOTE] It isn't a good example? He's just exercising his rights, what's wrong with that? If you say that you should exercise your rights, that removes any limit to which you should exercise them to. As long as it's legal, it's okay. And there is a point of having a right, even if you're not exercising it at all times. You have the right to say someone that they're a fuckhead, but that doesn't mean that you should.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39219075]It isn't a good example? He's just exercising his rights, what's wrong with that? If you say that you should exercise your rights, that removes any limit to which you should exercise them to. As long as it's legal, it's okay. And there is a point of having a right, even if you're not exercising it at all times. You have the right to say someone that they're a fuckhead, but that doesn't mean that you should.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that guy shouldn't have been open carrying, I'm just saying he's an asshole because he's purposefully trying to get the cops called on him so he can make an edgy youtube video about how he thinks cops are taking his rights away.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219106]I'm not saying that guy shouldn't have been open carrying, I'm just saying he's an asshole because he's purposefully trying to get the cops called on him so he can make an edgy youtube video about how he thinks cops are taking his rights away.[/QUOTE] Yep, he's an asshole alright. But what's wrong with what he's doing? He's scaring people purposefully. Now, give me a good reason why someone would walk around town with their rifle slung on their backs. I really can't come up with one. So why would you do it? If there's no reason to do it, you shouldn't, simply because you're going to scare some people. It may not be deliberate, and I'm not saying it should be illegal, but people should not do it just because "it's a right".

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39219157]Yep, he's an asshole alright. But what's wrong with what he's doing? He's scaring people purposefully. Now, give me a good reason why someone would walk around town with their rifle slung on their backs. I really can't come up with one. So why would you do it? If there's no reason to do it, you shouldn't, simply because you're going to scare some people. It may not be deliberate, and I'm not saying it should be illegal, but people should not do it just because "it's a right".[/QUOTE] You don't need a reason to do it

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219314]You don't need a reason to do it[/QUOTE] So, even though you're well aware of that it makes people uncomfortable, you don't think you need a legitimate reason to do it? It wouldn't be illegal, but it'd make you a douche. Do you also think that it's a-ok to walk up to some stranger and describe your genitalia in the most detailed way imaginable? It's not illegal, and some people would be okay with it, since they understand that it isn't a real threat, so I don't see why I shouldn't.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39219337]So, even though you're well aware of that it makes people uncomfortable, you don't think you need a legitimate reason to do it? It wouldn't be illegal, but it'd make you a douche.[/QUOTE] It's not the fault of the person carrying that it makes soccer moms uncomfortable. How about the NRA gets off it's ass and promotes an ad campaign to try and rid some of the fear around firearms thats developed.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219350]It's not the fault of the person carrying that it makes soccer moms uncomfortable. How about the NRA gets off it's ass and promotes an ad campaign to try and rid some of the fear around firearms thats developed.[/QUOTE] Well, yes it is, so you better have a good reason to do it. And stop acting like "it's just soccer moms" - there's a lot of people that would be uncomfortable with it. And I gave a fine analogy in my earlier (now updated) post. Read it, if you'd be so kind.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39219383] And I gave a fine analogy in my earlier (now updated) post. Read it, if you'd be so kind.[/QUOTE] Not sure how open carrying is comparable to talking about your dick, but OK lol.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219439]Not sure how open carrying is comparable to talking about your dick, but OK lol.[/QUOTE] It's exercising a right, and not all people would care about it. But some people would be offended or creeped out - are they simply uneducated about my dick, or is it okay for them not to be comfortable with it? I chose a silly example because that's the way I am, but try to take it half-way seriously and see the reasoning behind it.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39219561]It's exercising a right, and not all people would care about it. But some people would be offended or creeped out - are they simply uneducated about my dick, or is it okay for them not to be comfortable with it? I chose a silly example because that's the way I am, but try to take it half-way seriously and see the reasoning behind it.[/QUOTE] Like I said earlier, you don't need a reason to do it. Because people (soccer moms) are uncomfortable with it isn't the fault of the person carrying. A person shouldn't be dissuaded from open carrying because some are uncomfortable with it. And like I said earlier, the NRA should get off their ass and try to run an ad campaign to get rid of the stigma around firearms.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219801]Like I said earlier, you don't need a reason to do it. Because people (soccer moms) are uncomfortable with it isn't the fault of the person carrying. A person shouldn't be dissuaded from open carrying because some are uncomfortable with it. And like I said earlier, the NRA should get off their ass and try to run an ad campaign to get rid of the stigma around firearms.[/QUOTE] You don't [I]need[/I] a reason to tell about your dick, but that doesn't mean you should. Let's just say that's my final statement here, because I think it's clear for both of us that we're not going to come to an agreement. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though. Have a good night.

you too :) [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] holy shit that was like the first civil debate I've had in SH, thank you sir.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39219932]you too :) [editline]14th January 2013[/editline] holy shit that was like the first civil debate I've had in SH, thank you sir.[/QUOTE] I was quite surprised as well, so I really think we should leave it there. Though hell might break lose or something.

[QUOTE=laserguided;39212496]They should have done it with AK-74's instead. The media would be all over them.[/QUOTE] you fool they're obviously glocks and ak47

You can openly carry just about any gun here in Texas and nobody cares, even in the city. I saw a guy at the mall with a PS90 and people were just curious about it.

[QUOTE=trotskygrad;39216549]no, different gas block, muzzle, and other things the reciever/action is basically the same but the design was altered to decrease the spread of the rifle.[/QUOTE] The AK-74 is a modified AKM, that's what he's trying to say. They modified the gas block, added a different compensator and rechambered it for the new round.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39212739]If you'd like to learn more and educate yourself on "Assault weapons" Check this out! [url]http://www.assaultweapon.info/[/url][/QUOTE] Oh great, a lesson on firearm terminology from a website that calls M16s "machine guns".