• Researchers at the United States Holocaust Museum claim that 15-20 million people died in the Holoca
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[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39769486]Where are the gas-chambers? Where are the trenches stacked to the brim with the dead? Where are the children being given a piece of candy before they are sent to be burned alive in the ovens? There will always be evil in this world. It is inevitable. But no evil that is equal to that of the holocaust.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure they didn't burn people alive. They just gassed them and burned the bodies.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39770258]This article just reeks of bullshit. People don't comprehend how large number of people 10 million is, it would be impossible to kill that many in the span of 3-5 years without just going around, openly massacring people everywhere.[/QUOTE] That is exactly what happened. Like, almost word-for-word what you said, happened. Nazis marched into the ghettos they set up, lined up everyone they had put in there - be they Jews, homosexuals, anyone - against the wall, and shot them, sometimes not even bothering to line them up. Then they stole any belongings they hadn't already taken - jewellery that had been smuggled in, money, food, that sort of thing. If there were any people left, they were packed up onto a train and sent to the camps where they worked until they were lined up and put into the gas chambers, experimented upon, or simply shot where they were working because the commandant was having a bad day.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;39769415]Oh boy, here we go again. /pol/'s gonna go nuts over this.[/QUOTE] What's /pol/? Some kind of Holocaust denier forum?
[QUOTE=Black;39770521]What's /pol/? Some kind of Holocaust denier forum?[/QUOTE] 4chan's [I]Pol[/I]itically Incorrect board.
[QUOTE=Araknid;39770223]Makes me think about how stupid and sick the people who deny the holocaust are. How can you deny the death of millions when there is clear proof of it?[/QUOTE] It's a crime to even question the Holocaust, or suggest that it may not have happened the way we've been told it happened. Tell me that doesn't set off your internal bullshit alarm. I'm not saying it didn't happen (because it did), but more and more people, who aren't even remotely anti-semitic, believe certain aspects of it have been exaggerated, misrepresented, or outright fabricated. As the old saying goes, 'History is written by the victors', and while the jews underwent terrible hardships and lost almost everything of value they had, it's safe to say they won in the end, years after the war by getting their own nation and becoming a global power. Who's to say how they would be faring right now, if they hadn't constantly reminded everyone on the planet about what they went through all these decades? There's nothing wrong with reminding people about the Holocaust, as it was another atrocity of war that should never happen again, but think for a second about someone who gets a broken arm or some other incapacitating injury. People bend over backwards for an injured person, doing whatever they can to help them. Some people take advantage of that kindness and exaggerate their injury to prolong the 'living like a king' or to get more of something (room service from your mom, for example). Some believe the jews did the same thing, but on a larger scale. Though very little evidence definitively proves that, it's certain that the Holocaust, no matter which version of it you might believe in, gave them considerable leverage they wouldn't have otherwise had. So while anyone who outright denies the Holocaust might be anti-semitic douchebags trying to be edgy and different, not everyone who questions it and its circumstances are. Most only have a historical interest in the subject and nothing more, perhaps because they feel study of the subject could be better or that there are inaccuracies or things that don't match up, or any other number of things that don't involve hating an entire race.
Time for Israel to grab up more reparations.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39769486]But no evil that is equal to that of the holocaust.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/RtT430D.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Riutet;39770790][img]http://i.imgur.com/RtT430D.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] He wasn't evil, he was just a massive cunt.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;39770603]It's a crime to even question the Holocaust, or suggest that it may not have happened the way we've been told it happened. Tell me that doesn't set off your internal bullshit alarm. I'm not saying it didn't happen (because it did), but more and more people, who aren't even remotely anti-semitic, believe certain aspects of it have been exaggerated, misrepresented, or outright fabricated. As the old saying goes, 'History is written by the victors', and while the jews underwent terrible hardships and lost almost everything of value they had, it's safe to say they won in the end, years after the war by getting their own nation and becoming a global power. Who's to say how they would be faring right now, if they hadn't constantly reminded everyone on the planet about what they went through all these decades? There's nothing wrong with reminding people about the Holocaust, as it was another atrocity of war that should never happen again, but think for a second about someone who gets a broken arm or some other incapacitating injury. People bend over backwards for an injured person, doing whatever they can to help them. Some people take advantage of that kindness and exaggerate their injury to prolong the 'living like a king' or to get more of something (room service from your mom, for example). Some believe the jews did the same thing, but on a larger scale. Though very little evidence definitively proves that, it's certain that the Holocaust, no matter which version of it you might believe in, gave them considerable leverage they wouldn't have otherwise had. So while anyone who outright denies the Holocaust might be anti-semitic douchebags trying to be edgy and different, not everyone who questions it and its circumstances are. Most only have a historical interest in the subject and nothing more, perhaps because they feel study of the subject could be better or that there are inaccuracies or things that don't match up, or any other number of things that don't involve hating an entire race.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_Industry[/url] [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;39770799]He wasn't evil, he was just a massive cunt.[/QUOTE] What's the difference?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39770799]He wasn't evil, he was just a massive cunt.[/QUOTE] Theories vary, but the general consensus is that he killed ten million people. Ten million people killed. That's not being a massive cunt, that's being an evil, evil person.
[QUOTE=Black;39770521]What's /pol/? Some kind of Holocaust denier forum?[/QUOTE] basically where stormfront tries to embed their bigoted ideas into idiot childrens (4chans) minds
[QUOTE=Riutet;39770790][img]http://i.imgur.com/RtT430D.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]What the Soviet Union did is more akin to what North Korea is doing now. Death isn't the primary goal, but control; death being either a side effect or a means to that end. Christ, sounds so goddamn clinical, how I put that, but that's about as clear as I can make the nebulous idea floating in my head. What Nazi Germany did was primarily to exterminate a people, with slave labour used to squeeze some weapons out of them before they died.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;39769415]Oh boy, here we go again. /pol/'s gonna go nuts over this.[/QUOTE] Yeah, not that I'm pro or contra anything, but people in SA usually don't care about boards of imageboards.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;39770283]Except thats what the nazis pretty much did???[/QUOTE] Why didn't they just shoot them all then? gassing and burning that many people is just ridiculous. The chinese and ruskies had the right idea.
[QUOTE=entertainer89;39773545]Why didn't they just shoot them all then? gassing and burning that many people is just ridiculous. The chinese and ruskies had the right idea.[/QUOTE] Because mass gassing is much cheaper than bullets. [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] And less time consuming
these are my people...
The reason Nazi Germany gassed and burned their victims was because it was more efficient than shooting them and burying them, but that's not to say that they didn't shoot a lot of their victims.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39770799]He wasn't evil, he was just a massive cunt.[/QUOTE] Tell that to Ukraine, Baltic states, Poland and other ex-soviet states, where he commited genocide. I'll just leave this here [url]http://i.imgur.com/ya1AvcT.jpg[/url] [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kuro.;39769415]Oh boy, here we go again. /pol/'s gonna go nuts over this.[/QUOTE] Actually, /pol/ already disputed this.
Sorry, not buying it. There weren't even 20 million jews in world back then. Heck, there are only about 13.5 million jews right now. [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] The initial soviet estimates were close to 2M.
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Undeniable proof that Hitler was indeed worse than Hitler.
[QUOTE=aydin690;39774272]Sorry, not buying it. There weren't even 20 million jews in world back then. Heck, there are only about 13.5 million jews right now. [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] The initial soviet estimates were close to 2M.[/QUOTE] It's twenty million [I]people[/I], not twenty million Jews. The Roma, gays, disabled, and other minorities, were also sent to the camps.
[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39773000]Theories vary, but the general consensus is that he killed ten million people. Ten million people killed. That's not being a massive cunt, that's being an evil, evil person.[/QUOTE] Oh no, he was a cunt through and through. A cunty cunty person.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39774614]Oh no, he was a cunt through and through. A cunty cunty person.[/QUOTE] I'd say that cunt was too light a word.
That's terrible. We should give a homeland for the gypsies, Gays and Mentally/Physically disabled people each!
[QUOTE=person11;39769544]Israel is like, MAYBE [B]Mussolini[/B] level. Or Horthy, maybe. Anyway, this research is amazing for how thorough it is. I am glad this is being revealed, as sickening as it is.[/QUOTE] considering what italy did to ethiopia before WW2, and what israel was doing to ethiopian jews, you may actually have a point, not saying they're JUST as bad, but at this point, its pretty obvious the only thing that keeps israel from going overboard is the threat of losing US/ or even more european support, and not actually any respect to ethics of any sort.
[QUOTE=overpain;39774388][img]http://i.imgur.com/Z16YLuc.jpg[/img] While I do believe genocides by nazi Germany happened, I believe that numbers were highly exaggerated. Also everyone should watch this (it was made by jew so you can't say it is biased) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCOjOj4RAU&feature=youtu.be[/url] So I guess the history is written by the victors.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias[/url]
[QUOTE=aydin690;39774272]Sorry, not buying it. There weren't even 20 million jews in world back then. Heck, there are only about 13.5 million jews right now. [editline]2nd March 2013[/editline] The initial soviet estimates were close to 2M.[/QUOTE] I always hear stormies say this same thing about the Jewish population pre-Holocaust. What I never see are sources other than artifact-filled JPEGs.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39775945][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias[/url][/QUOTE] But United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is totally unbiased on this subject?
[QUOTE=Shadaez;39773044]basically where stormfront tries to embed their bigoted ideas into idiot childrens (4chans) minds[/QUOTE] people need to stop generalizing 4chan. it's not a hive of idiots and teenagers thinking they're cool for posting there, and thinking that is just like thinking everyone on 4chan is a part of "anonymous". most of the idiots stay in /pol/ and /b/, and sometimes they go to other boards, but they're banned quickly. I hate to bring this up, though.
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