13 y/o boy survive's on oil after being abandoned by parents
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[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;46551851]I think the basic concept of home school is this: The parents have the right to educate their children. All the state can do is mandate the requirements. The state's interest is in having children receive a certain level of education. Social skills are not part of this mandate.
As a practical matter public school works for most people since it gets the job done AND babysits the kids for the parent= win/win. Parents and/or legal guardians may have reasons for preferring home schooling instead. Your education is what you make of it in the end. All the social skills in the world won't pay your bills. On the other hand, people skills can help you advance in life if you use them well.[/QUOTE]
Homeschooling != poor social skills
[QUOTE=bitches;46550738]I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.
[editline]22nd November 2014[/editline]
I know you want to make a criticism of them, but auto-didactic is hardly an insult.[/QUOTE]
I knew a kid who was homeschooled until like 11th grade and was miles ahead of everyone else in our grade.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;46550731]I have never really understood the homeschooled concept. Can the parents do it even if they don't have schooling titles or how does it work?[/QUOTE]
Usually it doesn't require a title per sae but the students will need to take tests (usually annually or biannually) to determine if their parents are properly teaching them.
Kind of pisses me off how people assume that homeschooled kids are automatically going to be socially retarded. [i]Some of us[/i] didn't grow up in town and lived in the sticks, so either way we weren't very "socialized" which was bullshit anyway. I wish I was homeschooled because I still have fucking nightmares about shit that happened to me in elementary school and I'm almost 30.
Fuck socialization, I'd rather be a regular introvert rather than an introvert with recurring nightmares.
[QUOTE=bitches;46550738]I don't want to jump to conclusions and say anything like 'ban homeschooling'. I'm legitimately interested in having someone here explain in a relatable way, how some people benefit from home schooling.[/QUOTE]
For me it was a way past all the bullshit and bullying. I spent sixth, seventh and eighth grades homeschooled and I turned out fine.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46550737]Home schooled? I believe the term you are looking for is auto-didactic. You horrible people.[/QUOTE]
No. home schooled.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;46550731]I have never really understood the homeschooled concept. Can the parents do it even if they don't have schooling titles or how does it work?[/QUOTE]
No qualification is necessary.
[quote]I am alarmed that to simply have a child go undetected by the state, you simply have to enroll a child as home schooled. This isn't the only case of child endangerment that is theoretically undetectable unless discovered by another person.[/quote]
As a person who's parents used "Homeschooling" as a cover to sit on their asses all day and just not bother educating any of their children, I can confirm it's pretty god darn easy to abuse it as a way to not school your children. Besides spectacularly failing on the occasional state-mandated testing, which is rather difficult to do, there's nothing that's done that can't be faked. I believe we had to send in logs roughly stating that I did x or y, but a child's parent of guardian can easily make up everything and the government won't bat an eye at. Myself, I had no formal education at all until what the time I should've been enrolled in the 8th grade, at which point my parents threw me into an online charter school due to probably both a bit of realizing what they were doing was really stupid and the fact that the future high school testing tends to be more difficult. Or at least more difficult in a way that the test wasn't primarily composed of things you can pretty easily deduce on its own, or facts that you learn incidentally through growing up in the information age (I thank the Internet for everything I know), and I suppose they wanted to avoid the multiple laws they were pretty flagrantly violating. I still haven't the slightest clue how to perform long division to this very day.
fuck anyone that says kids get socially stunted from homeschooling. there's multiple different methods of homeschooling, not everyone you meet who's homeschooled is gonna be some fucking shut-in with ultra-christian parents
i was always off-kilter when i was a kid, and was regularly pushed around and bullied in elementary school. i was diagnosed with aspergers when i was 6, and going to school was intensely anxiety-inducing and stressful. my spastic manic actions started progressively getting worse. i'd choke myself, hit my head on things, gouge myself with pencils, my mother didn't think i'd live through my teenage years.
by third grade my mother had enough, and withdrew me from school, and with her help combined with a supporting community of counselors and other homeschooling families in the area, i fucking thrived socially, and if you met me today, you'd never expect anything like that. if you wanted me to be dramatic about it, i could say with complete honesty that homeschooling saved my life.
just be open-minded about homeschooling. it's not right for everyone, but it's not some black magic that'll turn kids into social retards like so many people think (although those types do exist)
[QUOTE=Herfjotur;46550841]I did a year in FLVS. Virtual school and home schooling are not the same at all. There are parents who are crazy when it comes to public schools. They think their children are being indoctrinated, so they pull them out and homeschool them with a curriculum from religious academies. Those kids tend to end up strange, and socially detached. But not always. There are also the people who use the homeschool system in the manner exercised by the two fine individuals in the OP. So that their child is just not doing school at all. FLVS, and I'd imagine other virtual schools, are just like normal public schooling, but you do the lessons on your own time in a powerpoint kind of way instead of having to sit in a class with a bunch of people who don't give a fuck and are disruptive.[/QUOTE]
I really, really liked FLVS. Parents pulled me out because I was getting stressed as fuck at the level of violence until we moved to a new place. I managed to "skip" traditional middle school straight into high school and not become a fuckup.
Homeschooling can only work if the parents are exceptionally gifted in a shitton of domains or rich enough to hire really good teachers, and you'll need to also make sure the kid doesn't grow up to be a huge egotistical bitch due to having been educated alone by a bunch of hired people and his parents instead of going to a school like every other kid.
As far as my personal experience goes I've never met a single person who was homeschooled and who didn't turn out to be a massive pretentious special-snowflake type asshole with huge knowledge gaps.
Also Richard Garriott was homeschooled until high school and he did eventually go to fucking space among other things, so there's that.
I never realised so many people were homeschooled :v:
Freind who was homeschooled: Pretty cool guy, met up with him the other day, great soclializer
Friend who goes to my school: "Asexual" guy who constantly browses tumblr and seeks attention.
It varies a lot depending on the parents, but in the UK I'm pretty sure you have to have some form of qualification to homeschool.
1,000,000 Gorgles
[QUOTE=Maegord;46554253]As a person who's parents used "Homeschooling" as a cover to sit on their asses all day and just not bother educating any of their children, I can confirm it's pretty god darn easy to abuse it as a way to not school your children. Besides spectacularly failing on the occasional state-mandated testing, which is rather difficult to do, there's nothing that's done that can't be faked. I believe we had to send in logs roughly stating that I did x or y, but a child's parent of guardian can easily make up everything and the government won't bat an eye at. Myself, I had no formal education at all until what the time I should've been enrolled in the 8th grade, at which point my parents threw me into an online charter school due to probably both a bit of realizing what they were doing was really stupid and the fact that the future high school testing tends to be more difficult. Or at least more difficult in a way that the test wasn't primarily composed of things you can pretty easily deduce on its own, or facts that you learn incidentally through growing up in the information age (I thank the Internet for everything I know), and I suppose they wanted to avoid the multiple laws they were pretty flagrantly violating. I still haven't the slightest clue how to perform long division to this very day.[/QUOTE]
That's actually really interesting... How would you say you've fared since then? How has that impacted your intellectual ability?
[editline]23rd November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46554605]Homeschooling can only work if the parents are exceptionally gifted in a shitton of domains or rich enough to hire really good teachers, and you'll need to also make sure the kid doesn't grow up to be a huge egotistical bitch due to having been educated alone by a bunch of hired people and his parents instead of going to a school like every other kid.
As far as my personal experience goes I've never met a single person who was homeschooled and who didn't turn out to be a massive pretentious special-snowflake type asshole with huge knowledge gaps.
Also Richard Garriott was homeschooled until high school and he did eventually go to fucking space among other things, so there's that.[/QUOTE]
Well, now you've met me, and Ajacks, and I'd say we're pretty normal people.
worst thing that happened with my home schooling
fucked my teacher
[QUOTE=Maegord;46554253]As a person who's parents used "Homeschooling" as a cover to sit on their asses all day and just not bother educating any of their children, I can confirm it's pretty god darn easy to abuse it as a way to not school your children. Besides spectacularly failing on the occasional state-mandated testing, which is rather difficult to do, there's nothing that's done that can't be faked. I believe we had to send in logs roughly stating that I did x or y, but a child's parent of guardian can easily make up everything and the government won't bat an eye at. Myself, I had no formal education at all until what the time I should've been enrolled in the 8th grade, at which point my parents threw me into an online charter school due to probably both a bit of realizing what they were doing was really stupid and the fact that the future high school testing tends to be more difficult. Or at least more difficult in a way that the test wasn't primarily composed of things you can pretty easily deduce on its own, or facts that you learn incidentally through growing up in the information age (I thank the Internet for everything I know), and I suppose they wanted to avoid the multiple laws they were pretty flagrantly violating. I still haven't the slightest clue how to perform long division to this very day.[/QUOTE]
Just on the long division thing. I went through the public school system (Well, am going through. Last year) and even though I've always gotten pretty high marks in Math courses I can't do long division for the life of me
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