• Trumps Lawyer Its Time to End the Mueller Probe
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Is this the plot line for the next Resident Evil movie?
Mueller seems like the kinda man to have contingencies for his contiingencies.
As much as I appreciate Mueller, I feel like ya'll are putting a bit too much faith in him alone. He's not omnipotent, and he's not Batman -- there's a limit to what he's personally capable of. That said, his team represents the most powerful investigative and prosecutorial partnership in US history, so if anybody could do it...
Unless this investigation hurries up we could be seeing the establishment of a total Trump dictatorship. And you know, even then, because the GOP has made it evidently clear that the most they're willing to be is "concerned" about the tangerine tyrant's actions but then still do as master commands. Is that really the hill they going to choose to die on?
Not for the next Resident Evil movie - for the next Far Cry. Literally.
It's a better option than leaving it in the hands of man hell-bent on damaging it further.
Oh yeah, I don't think he's disagreeing with that. I think he's just saying that Trump isn't the cause of the real problems in our country, he's the result of them. Throwing him in prison for the rest of his life is critical, but it's not a resolution to the factors that allowed him to ever reach this point. The Post-Trump United States is going to have a tough uphill battle to undo the social and political schism we've been steadily growing over the last decade.
I think the GOP losing its 20pt lead in PA demonstrates that the fence sitters who voted for him in '16 are running screaming.
I'm astounded at how much the GOP is being fully complicit in letting Trump get away with this. Like, Jesus Christ, surely ObamaCare repeal, tax cuts, SCOTUS judges, etc are only worth so much, right? Right?!?
It's like using a hand grenade to clean some dishes.
The problem is that Republicans have compromised so much to maintain power for as long as they have that they can't afford to lose anymore. Losing political power would mean being at the mercy of the people they've functionally declared war on. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are as criminal as Trump. They might be forced to protect him just to stay out of prison, especially now that they've collectively shit on the people who would be investigating them.
There's a real problem with the way Mueller's investigation is set up, and one that works heavily in Team Treason's favour: Unlike Ken Starr's very public report at the conclusion of his investigations, Mueller's commission as special investigator includes no avenues for public disclosure of his findings. The US government is legally under no obligation to publicly reveal a single detail of Mueller's findings, and this is due to a law change between the time Starr got started and now. It is at the discretion of the FBI (and therefore the executive as a whole, meaning El Presidente) to inform the public of any unclassified information available. While it would be reasonable to expect a public version of the report being redacted and released were we living in a sane timeline, the sitting administration and government cannot be trusted to reveal the faithful results of Mueller's investigation, especially if it condems Trump and a sizeable percentage of Republican leadership and notable figures. And even if a report is released there is zero way for the American people to verify that the public report is even slightly related to Mueller's submitted conclusions. There are only three ways Americans find out the truth: Mueller remains in his position until Democrats can take over the House in the Fall, and they successfully do so, and they continue to pursue an aggressive inquest into the truth behind Trump's hidden agenda (meaning when Mueller's report comes out they're still in the mood to fight for it) Against all odds, the tide turns against Trump and his co-conspirators and the American public and bipartisan support in Congress demand the release, forcing the White House's hand to process a redacted version for release Mueller has contingencies planned for his removal, including either releasing a intelligence-safe version or just dropping the full unredacted jam, exposing intelligence methods and possibly risking the lives of field agents and their embedded sources, as he burns the lies to the ground in public Wikileaks-style (how's that for irony) Americans, you are fighting for the very heart of your nation. If Trump makes a move at Mueller, get mad as hell and then get into the streets and demand change. This is going to be a defining moment in history and every voice and every pair of feet matters. God fucking bless what is left of America, for it can still be saved. I think.
If Trump does successfully oust Mueller, I wonder what the odds are that a democrat controlled government could reinstate him and continue the investigate - at this point it seems like Trump's aim is to get Mueller out before the Democrats (hopefully) take the house and senate. Even if he gets a puppet in the position of CIA director, couldn't Dem congress/senate then revive the investigation of their own accord?
Just a reminder that only the elections take place in the fall. Congressmen will not take office until January, 2 and a half months after the election. Not only is this more time to wait for them to do anything about Trump, it also gives Trump plenty of time to sabotage any effort they make in Congress before they get there. Needless to say, the Dems winning Congress will not immediately resolve all these investigations around Trump. There will be hearings and such to do and time will be required. And that's if the Democrats win.
There have been bipartisan statements in the past from the Senate telling Trump not to fire Mueller because they'll just reinstate him as an independent counsel immediately so he can continue his work. Of course, there is a difference between the Senate saying that and trusting the Republican majority to actually follow through on their word. And that would be foolish at this point.
I trust the Senate more than the House when it comes to voting against Trump. House members can toe a hard party line and easily not worry about reelection, but Senators have to always worry about their next election as their constituents are the entire state, with all the Republicans and Democrats within.
Trump's an entertainer, and a hammy one at that. "Subtle" isn't part of his MO.
The only good way to end the Mueller probe is with Trump in handcuffs.
This is becoming increasingly worrisome. I can only hope if anything does happen that people will get out there and protest, it'll hurt my paycheck but i'd be out there. with how the GOP seems to let trump do whatever he pleases, they will let him fire mueller and do nothing about it.
I'd rather do everything in my power to convince Trump I'm cooperating with him while simultaneously undermining him as much as possible because fuck Donald J. Trump and any other traitor to the American people. (As well as the very foundations of our entire democracy.)
Given how much of a child Trump is, that seems like an insanely easy idea to implement.
It's getting spicy- I better see some action from you Yanks.
Shit, we've all been rused https://twitter.com/tamarakeithNPR/status/975492714740535296?s=19
Ah yes, No True Republican™ would ever want to make sure the leader of the party they believe in isn't corrupted by a foreign government and just take the word said leader.
I'm pretty sure that Mueller is the only true Republican left.
We can only hope that history continues to repeat itself and if Mueller does go out, the Republicans finally get the balls to say enough is enough For context, Archibald Cox was the democratic Special Counsel appointed to investigate the Watergate scandal. There are so many mirrors that it isn't even funny ________________________________ As I was about to leave, Elliot said, “We’ve got an even worse problem than Agnew.” That’s not possible, I replied. “Yes, it is,” he said. “The president wants to fire Cox.” Richardson had appointed Archibald Cox, his former professor at Harvard Law School, five months earlier as special prosecutor to investigate the Watergate scandal. My reply reflected my belief at the time. “Don’t worry,” I said. “When it comes right down to it, he’ll never do it. The American people won’t tolerate it.” I was wrong about my first point, but right about the second. As we were about to find out, Americans would not acquiesce to a president firing a special prosecutor chosen by the attorney general to investigate possible presidential misconduct. When Elliot Richardson was confirmed as attorney general in May 1973 he told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would not fire Cox except for “extraordinary improprieties.” I made the same pledge in September 1973 at my confirmation hearing. At that time, only the attorney general or his successor could fire Cox. In every case, the complaints from the White House resulted in Cox’s pulling back from areas of investigative concern outside his Watergate mandate. He was very sensitive to being accused of partisanship. Cox had been the solicitor general in the Kennedy administration. He could not have been more responsive to the White House’s complaints, even as he forged ahead with his investigation into Watergate. After I left for Grand Rapids that October morning, the situation between the White House and Richardson began to rapidly deteriorate. Elliot called to let me know, and I returned to Washington on Wednesday evening. Three days later, Elliot and I resigned after refusing to carry out President Nixon’s order to fire the special prosecutor. Cox was then dismissed by Robert Bork, who had quickly been designated acting attorney general. The resulting public firestorm, which became known as the “Saturday Night Massacre,” marked the beginning of the end of the Nixon presidency. Congressional support eroded, the House Judiciary Committee began impeachment hearings and the Supreme Court ordered the release of White House tapes capturing the president and his aides plotting the cover-up. Nearly 10 months after that October night, Nixon resigned.
even if trump did not directly collude with any member of the russian government, he's definitely self incriminated and obstructed justice
"I've done nothing wrong. What better way to show that then to repeatedly and desperately call for the end of an investigation that, since I've done no wrong, should eventually prove my innocence!"
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