Soft power is one of the most important forms of power projection available in modern geopolitics. THe very point is that the UK will have less of it than before.
Problem: Dislike tariffs on traded goods
Solution: Advocate for hard brexit, leaving the trade area, putting tariffs on trade with our largest trade partener
Genius.
So what Bolrig is saying, it's going to be tiny, isolated England versus all of those other trade blocs and England will succeed with "soft power" that apparently no other nation on earth could possibly match.
:what:
Yeah in no way is leaving the huge neighbouring economic bloc next door, losing our ability to influence it through our votes and vetoes, going to increase britain's soft power.
I'm convinced boilrig is living in an alternate reality where it's always opposite day.
you may be cracking jokes, but once brexit is done and dusted, it'll signal the rise of the Glorious British-Mongol Union
I'm also curious if there are any specifically unique British goods that could be traded at a better deal than making a deal with the entirety of the EU for a better price.
More soft power from isolating ourself from our closest allies?
Are you high or just a troll?
He's been like this for months. At this point it's genuine or a performance art piece
Even Mongolia has some sort of membership of the SCO. Cuba and North Korea are the only ones out of a trade bloc. That's it!
even better
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/217414/3de659c6-0449-44b3-90b7-0d39d40bbf4f/image.png
time for the dawn of the Anglo-Joseon-Cuban Bloc
so this is why corbyn doesn't oppose brexit! it's all clear now
Finally it all makes sense, they'll just set up a trade deal with Cuba and North Korea to buy discount nukes, then nobody will stand in their way, just like Cuba and North Korea!!!
Look what popped up on my Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/981140236448227328
I already knew her pre-referendum stance, but I didn't realise she'd had as much public coverage of it as that.
"The Reject Bloc"
pretty much the equivalent of the democrats
The nasty party.
Right wing, their current focus on cutting welfare (pensions, unemployment allowance, disability living allowance, free school meals for poorer children etc) and public services like healthcare, the fire brigade, and the police to facilitate tax breaks for corporations and the upper class.
Similar to Trump they have a habit of putting people who oppose progress in certain areas, in charge of those areas.
A man who co-authored a book on privatising the NHS is in charge of healthcare, homophones have been put in charge of equality and diversity in the past, same with fox hunters in charge of animal welfare.
Oh did I not mention the obsession with torturing foxes?.
It will be interesting to read the 2018 version when it comes out, to see whether the UK has moved any further or a change of the upbeat tone on the EU.
Totally.
Because if she doesn't, someone else will. This is her one job, as soon as Brexit is over, she is out of politics.
Does it matter if I support it or not? I mean for my own country this is great, a solid trade deal and maybe we can actually have a relationship with the UK once more. The UK's economy size is related to the EU, but not determined by it, it won't suddenly drop into becoming a small country or anything if that is how you think it will go.
I love your devotion to this delusion.
This has been seen as unilaterally a harmful thing for the UK by damn near every expert who's looked at the issue.
The people who pushed for this literally said "we've had enough of experts" as a refutation of superior info and data and you are STILL doing that all these years later.
I mean, I really have to commend that level of commiment.
I love how you said "Post your source, I might even agree"
I then post my source saying exactly why Britain's soft power has dropped and is on a clear downward trend by every metric and will be so in the future.
Then you go "Okay, but maybe it'll be amazing in 2018"
How exactly do you not see that this is literally deluding yourself in the simplest form?
Why do you even talk about sources when you have no intention to be scientific or objective about any of this?
In action but not in ideology. The Tories (Conservatives) are a right wing party (economically and also fairly conservative socially). Democrats are "left wing" or at least liberal/Liberal. Difference is liberals/progressives in the UK are served by Libdem/Labour, not tory so tory doesn't try to cater to them. liberals/progressives in the USA are "served" by democrats, so the democrat platform/ideology contains stuff to appeal to those progressives, whereas uk tories don't really have to make those appeals.
If the UK would ever focus on trade with NZ, it'd be simply out of desperation, I don't know how you can be so deluded. NZs economy is nowhere near a lot of European countries, and you think this is a good thing? Like, not to shit on New Zealand, but you're basically saying you'd rather have trade deals based on pity and necessity because nobody else will bother with the UK around here without a hefty "I told you so, idiots"
No, the comment about wanting to see the 2018 version is because I want to see if there has been any massive shift due to Brexit negotiation speed/style and the part about the EU with them more or less declaring an end to the whole right-wing government, but we've seen Poland go sideways and now the italian elections. As I've maintained from the start, I actually want to see what the final terms/deal is going to be, as then and only then we can actually get idea of the future for the UK, not the idea this forum has about describing the UK as if its been hit by a nuke or something for leaving the EU.
In order to have power, you need leverage.
That panhandler asking for some change? He's not exercising "soft power", he's begging.
The UK is focusing on NZ and Australia because they are simple trade deals that means they are open to business, common law etc make it much easier to sit down and work out a fast trade deal, not to mention the commonwealth. But knowing them they will be using us to push their way into TPP. It doesn't matter about our economy size in relation to EU country economy sizes if the UK has a trade deal with the EU, it will be looking elsewhere.
"The UK is focusing on NZ and Australia because they are simple trade deals that means they are open to business"
Because barely anybody else will bother with them. Shoot yourself in the foot for fun and we'll see how many people want to hang out with you. Just because you are adamant it will be good economically for another country that isn't the UK doesn't mean Brexit is not an extremely retarded idea in every aspect for the UK public, which is the point of this thread. I can safely tell you none of those 50+ y/old voters that said yes to it were thinking about you. And even if what you say it's true, wow, your country made some pennies and the UK is still fucked.
You know that every country that they would be negotiating with has either comparable or larger economies, right?
The UK is going to get the shit abused out of it in trade deals because they have literally no leverage whatsoever. They need not only a lot of deals, but they need them quickly. This is going to be a complete and utter fucking disaster and nearly every single expert that has released a statement on the topic agrees with this sentiment.
You had better find a new talking point to argue if you want to continue defending this shitshow because your current angle is demonstrably a gigantic lie.
I have a solution for the irish border.
You ready for it?
Electronic border
checkmate bremoaners
wait no i have better
radioactive border
lets go further and build a dome over ireland
Nah, we like the outside world, Britain can have it.
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