How the Denver DSA convinced the Local Democratic Party to endorse Socialism...

[Mighty AU]

You could have replied to anything of substance in my post, but instead you resort to name calling and taking one of my comments out-of-context.

[Saint Furrybutt]

Ok, But either responses aren't supposedly offensive you. Especially put word stereotypical would be enough to be avoided of being too offensive.

[Thelurker1234]

"worked"
non-sequitur

[Sableye]

public ownership does not mean actual public ownership, strong regulations, labor practices, and a government that actually puts workers on the same level as businesses when weighing regulations is how democratic socialism has played out everywhere else in the world.

[Mighty AU]

You’re confusing social democracy with democratic socialism. Yes, Australia and many European countries have strong regulations and pro-worker labour laws, but they are social democratic societies, not democratic socialist societies. There are virtually no democratic socialist societies in existence today (the closest you’d get is Venezuela). And these fellas are democratic socialists. They advocated for a key democratic socialist policy, which not even social democrats advocate for:

But ultimately, Dubbels wrote, they “eventually settled on proposing something along the lines of the original Clause IV of the British Labour Party’s constitution, which explicitly advocated for common ownership of the means of production (ie, socialism). We figured we’d only have the time and capacity to introduce one amendment, so we went for the most radical one that came up in discussion.”

[CyclonatorZ]

Real talk: are you people actually advocating for private ownership of commerce to cease and for the government to seize all US businesses and corporations from their owners? Or are you just advocating for European-style reforms that would bring the US up to the standards of most other first world countries? Because there is a world of a difference between the two.

[cis.joshb]

Bernie is honest, and that's why he is loved. I believe you can feel the fact that Bernie is not on a script, Bernie doesn't have to say what anyone wants him to, and Bernie is likely intelligent enough to accept when he's wrong. If Bernie was hiding more about himself, he would seem more fake, because he wouldn't appear as authentic to the voters, because he really wouldn't be. Honest and intelligent people are typically charismatic, and typically called "good people" by many. Dishonest and intelligent people are called "elites" because they have used intelligence to figure out how to get power and stop other people from taking it from them. We want to replace our current elites with good people, but in every election, both candidates are liars. Bernie likely lies too sometimes, but anybody who watches him side by side with Clinton and Trump would likely feel that Bernie is probably lying (saying stuff he doesn't really believe) less than the other two are. Clinton and Trump were trying to slither their way into office (was the appearance), whereas Bernie was just being himself.