• Warnings From Russia Over Syria, Will Shoot Down Missiles & Target Launch Sites
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It's possible it could have been anyone, we can't pretend to know all motives and reasons, as we don't know them. To say it was an act of defense is stupid though and you should be ashamed, it's obviously not defense of that town.
that's nuts, but remember, the entire Russian state is one big propaganda machine and they know USA will take notice of this and think "Huh, maybe the Russians really are serious".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43719284 > Theresa May looks ready to join military action against the Assad regime in Syria without first seeking Parliamentary consent, well-placed sources have told the BBC. >Formally, she has yet to unequivocally point the finger of blame at the Assad government, the BBC's deputy political editor John Pienaar said. She has spoken of the need for action "if" the regime is found to bear responsibility, he added, but the strong assumption in Downing Street and Whitehall is the attack will be attributed to the forces of President Bashar al-Assad. Action is thought likely to follow within days. Going over parliaments head is ridiculous considering the possible consequences of retaliation.
Gotta try look strong on something and this is probably just about the only option left :|
In the same article, to those complaining that Russia vetoed the investigation, here is why. >The US-drafted resolution would have allowed investigators to apportion blame for the suspected attack, while Russia's version would have left that to the Security Council. So in essence, Russia wants a fair trial to be brought before the entire security council with evidence, the US wants to be able to blame someone without bringing it forward for evaluation. The Russian version was heavily based off of the first draft brought forward by Sweden. Of course everyone vetoed each other.
The release of chemical weapons doesn't have to be a deliberate action, the Syrians could have hit a weapon store. I doubt Jaysh al-Islam would be above hiding chemical weapons amongst civilians.
Syrian rebel militants to launch counter (RT) This has been flagging up on Russian news outlets today, nothing on any source I would particularly care for. If the French indeed only attack the chemical facilities, then this is entirely bullshit, however if Trump actually goes ahead and starts hammering ground forces then I guess this is a given,
If Russia even so much as takes a potshot at the same zip code as the USS Donald Cook they have given us all the justification we need to go before NATO and the UN and get a properly sanctioned wardec out. Putin knows it. They won't. It's bluffing and blustering.
https://twitter.com/imagesatint/status/984088578627129344
Russia does not want a fair trial. Russia wants what it always wants: to manufacture political chaos abroad and take advantage of that chaos in every way possible, from confusing the international community with misinformation and propaganda, to tying up the UN in a quagmire of contrived grievances, to reaping the domestic political benefits of orchestrated victimhood in the face of international outrage. Russia, like the rest of the world, knows damn well that Assad is responsible for this chemical weapons attack. This was not an accident, nor a stray bomb that happened hit the local Neighborhood Sarin Factory; it was a deliberate assertion of power, similar to the Skripal attack. And also like the Skripal attack, calling for a drawn-out investigation to prove the already obvious is nothing but an act of political theater designed to delay and obstruct an international response. Bottom line, Russia is not a trustworthy negotiator. They have perfected the art of misdirection as a weapon of the state; the longer we pretend otherwise, the worse off we'll all be.
Here's another proof of how trustworthy the Russian government is. I mean, the way they communicate is incredibly close to any other conspiracy theorist. Except I wouldn't be suprised in the slightest if I found out that they were the original source of many conspiracy theories. I don't think Russia would fight NATO head-on, they would most likely use a proxy at least until the point where somebody ran out of patience and attacked Russian assets, because that would justify their use of force as mere defense or retaliation. https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/984409897310801920 Btw. if you believe this tweet, you should take a look at this and this
I don't think the shadiness of the Russian state was or is ever in question. Simply what matters the most is the truth, because as much as all this political back and forth is interesting and balls deep in conspiracy from both sides, the ramifications of military actions from either side have a huge impact on human life and global stability. The truth has to prevail but unfortunately that does not mean relying on western media, they can be as bad as anyone.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43740626 He did not give the source of his information but said: "We have proof that last week chemical weapons, at least chlorine, were used by the regime of Bashar al-Assad."
Moscow: Procrastination with regard to sending OPCW experts to Douma unacceptable Syrian Arab News Agency (National News Network) >The Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement Wednesday on its website that “Moscow welcomes the decision of the Director-General of the Technical Secretariat of  OPCW Ahmet Uzumcu  to send a fact-finding mission to Douma to highlight what happened there as soon as possible”, The Ministry’s statement warned that the delay in sending the mission’s team is an unacceptable matter under the fierce campaign launched by western countries against Syria. It also warned that the procrastination may lead to the repetition of “the adventure taken by Washington in April 2017 ” with a missile strike against Syrian air base Al-Sh’ayrat in violation of the UN Charter and the provisions of international law. Russia is calling for the OPCW to hurry the fuck up before strikes begin.
That's hilarious considering they are the ones who vetoed the extension of the OPCW-UN mandate in the first place, which has hampered OPCW efforts in Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-chemicalweapons/after-u-n-veto-russia-moves-against-chemical-weapons-watchdog-idUSKBN1DL1UF I suppose it was this? At the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), a draft Russian-Iranian decision circulated among the 41 members of the body’s executive council, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, sought to overturn procedures on how OPCW inspectors work and how their findings are shared.
I posted about this a while back. It was not the OPCW-UN they were vetoing. The proposal from the US was that the investigators (the OPCW-UN I believe) could formally put blame on a party themselves, without bringing the evidence forward to the security council for review, Russia vetoed this. Russia then came back with a second draft, based on one formerly brought forward by Sweden that would allow the security council to review evidence and then part blame on a party. The US, strangely enough vetoed this.
Bolivia also vetoed the original proposal.
"Russia vetoes American proposal to allow Americans to blame someone; America vetoes Russian proposal to allow Russia to deny blame" It's that simple.
Yeah it is but I'll fix it a little. "Russia vetoes American proposal to allow Americans to blame Assad; America vetoes Russian proposal that would allow Russia to deny blame" Simples. We can see the Americans have already pinned blame on Syria without a formal investigation and after the 2017 airstrikes the Syrians have a good reason to be worried.
It's funny how the latest thing in the news into the investigation of the 2017 attack always gets ignored... 2018 - Diplomats and scientists tell Reuters that the Syrian government’s chemical weapons stockpile has been linked for the first time by lab tests to the largest sarin nerve agent attack of the civil war. Laboratories working for the OPCW compared samples taken by a U.N. mission in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta after the Aug. 21, 2013 attack to chemicals handed over by Damascus for destruction in 2014. The tests found “markers” in samples taken at Ghouta and at the sites of two other nerve agent attacks, in Khan Sheikhoun in April 2017 and Khan al-Assal in March 2013, two people involved in the process say. Timeline of investigations into Syria's chemical weapons | Reute..
I agree, but do you think it'll really make a difference? Regardless of what a formal UN investigation finds, Russia won't accept it. I don't want another proxy war in the Middle East, and I don't want innocent Syrians to have to deal with any more violence and bloodshed than they've already had to deal with. But what else can be done? Should we let Assad get away with poisoning his own citizens, like we know for a fact he's already done before? There's already been formal UN investigations into Assad's previous chemical weapons attacks that have essentially proven his involvement. Why do we need a third? Should we delay action after each consecutive chemical attack just to investigate to make sure it was really Assad this time? Or should we take some well-overdue action and charge the guy with crimes against humanity?
More military intervention into Syria is not what is needed. I think we have to start rejecting the idea of throwing Assad out, it's not our place in the world to go around kicking out everyone who offends us because they aren't sticking to our standards, standards we have set while not under threat from Jihadist militant groups and have no experience fighting what so ever on our own domestic lands. The biggest threat to the region is them, not Assad, something that has been generally agreed upon up until lately. ISIS and the foreign militants are on their last legs on many fronts, at the time where stability can be restored by Assad and infrastructure rebuilt, we would rather start another shooting war all over again. I'm sick of it. Again, I do sympathize with the FSA however we are not in Europe and the populace is nowhere near the same, so applying our ideas of good governance would end up a joke there. We will have a rerun of Iraq if this escalates to bringing down Assad and it will be worse off for the region than leaving him in place.
What the fuck? Nothing even remotely is said on that picture about bombs or shelters.
Am i experiencing America's answer to "Russian Trolls"? What was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of you citing RT to justify your false-flag conspiracy theory bullshit. Happy tenth post by the way, great job flying under the radar. No one will suspect a thing.
Join date elitism doesn't really work when he was a member on the old forum for 7 years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43733861 "Highly likely." What a fucking joke.
I have found that post from a reddit comment which was done in March, so I guess not. The entire situation is oddly bizarre Happy tenth post by the way, great job flying under the radar. No one will suspect a thing. Great job losing all credibility
(11 April) The Guardian "The Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, claimed that a US missile salvo could be used to destroy evidence of the gas attack, which Moscow claims was staged." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/days-after-suspected-chemical-attack-russia-says-douma-under-full-assad-control/2018/04/12/cc103a3e-3e5a-11e8-955b-7d2e19b79966_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0c24835985fb Ok, cool. So, now I guess that there won't be found any evidence of a chemical attack, because the Russian government said and confirmed that there was no chemical attack whatsoever but that it also was a false flag operation carried out by the west and that they used their own chemical weapons. AND if Assad's forces really did use chemical weapons... well, it doesn't matter anymore, does it? They're in control of the town.
Whether Assad used chemical weapons or not doesn't change the fact that bombing the Syrian government is a terrible idea. Have people not learned a thing from Iraq?
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