• Supreme Court to hear online Sales Tax case on Tuesday Apr 17
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I don't think it would be that hard for sites to comply given than they could calculate tax once they get your ZIP code, and for regular members they already have that info. It would be a clusterfuck if they had to go all the way down to municipal sales taxes, but the sensible thing to do would be to use the statewide rate. There is no federal sales tax for most goods in the US. I say most because maybe there are select things that are federally sales-taxed but I don't know. In my state with a 7.525% tax, a $1400 card would end up being $1505 and $399 card would end up being $429. Sure taxes are no fun, but if that extra hundred bucks is a deal breaker you probably shouldn't be spending such a large portion of your money at once, IMO. Whenever I've bought expensive shit I've never done it when I would have to watch what I spend afterwards, but that's just me. I think overall this is a good case and could be a boon to cash-starved states, and it will help B&M stores compete against the likes of Amazon.
Heres a hint, b&m stores aren't hurting because of tax reasons, its because half the time the msrp is cheaper online than at the store and more selection. Adding sales tax isnt going to hurt it a bit. And like said earlier in the thread, thanks to our fucked tax laws, get ready to be forced to document every online transaction so you can file your taxes correctly.
Just some food for thought, as an American who has never been to the UK or any other country where the tax is included in the shown price: Maybe it's only "just not a problem" for Americans like yourself is because you didn't grow up with all of that already being done for you. Saying "it's just not a problem" with having to mentally compute the actual tax-included price is like saying "it's just not a problem" converting miles to inches. Like, of course everyone knows that there's 63,360 inches in a mile, right! Converting 2.373 miles to inches is super simple! Just a real quick mental calculation, and it's obviously 150,350 inches! I don't get why people who use the metric system complain so much - it's not that much harder than knowing that there's 100,000 cm in a kilometer, and so 2.373km is 237,300 cm. I don't see why people complain about that! Just because it's not a problem for you, doesn't mean it's not a problem. Again, just some food for thought.
I've actually never heard anyone in my entire life complain about it. So it doesn't seem to be a problem for me and everyone I've ever met.
BC has 12% tax, but 15% on alcohol. April Fools Day 2015 the province decided that tax was no longer a mandatory requirement to be included on shelf prices for alcohol while at the same time raising prices at the liquor board. So yay prices went down on the shelf but boo prices went up at the till.
what hes trying to say is, instead of just you know, moving to a system that makes more senses and is easier to understand, people like you go "I didn't have a problem learning it, everyone else should too". If there's an easier way to do something, why not do it? Same with the tax system we have now, other nations have their IRS equivalents file you while you check if they are doing your taxes correctly. A lot of our systems/measurements are outdated and pointless.
"We're used to the system so it can never be shit" is a fucking terrible position to hold. Having to calculate tax and any service fees because they aren't included in the price is backwards as fuck and honestly I would say misleading at worst. The price you see on a product should be the price you pay rather than forcing customers to have to do some quick maths in their heads and hope to shit they actually got it right. I could become used to getting a light tap to the nutsack every hour on the hour, but that doesn't mean it's a good system to live my life by.
NOBODY has a problem with it in the US. It just isn't something people complain about because it's not an issue. Like I said, I've literally never heard anyone complain about it, say they had a problem with it, say it's difficult, etc. outside of this forum. You've also totally ignored the advantages people have mentioned, like the difficulty for business in keeping track of every single local, city level, tax change, and changing their listed prices to match... constantly, across the entire country.
Just because people around you haven't had a problem, doesn't mean others have. Also tax rates don't really hop around but once a year if that for most states, You're more likely to change the price of the actual good 100x more often than the tax rate.
I literally don't understand why tax isn't calculated on the shelf here, it's infuriating when you go above a couple hundred dollars and get shafted with some asshole tax on top.
Alright, then go ahead and demonstrate that there's some problem. I don't think I've ever seen it on the news as a problem. I've never heard anyone I know personally talk about it as a problem. I've never seen it brought up in local government as a problem. Etc. The problem isn't doing the price changes. It's keeping track of every single locality and their local tax codes.
Right okay in that case nothing is ever a problem unless its on the news or someone you personally know has complained about it. This is such a monumentally dense position to take honestly.
do you always need to be told what to care about?
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