• President Trump says he's "seriously thinking" of creating "Space Force"
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Perhaps this is just his way of getting conservatives down for the idea of more space funding, since dumping more money into the military is always something they're into.
Space Navy? American Air Navy? American Space Navy? I don't want to militarize space. I just want my space equivalent of a pickup and or/millennial falcon and have fun on long trips. Can you imagine a planetary/inter-system version of car shows or car meets?
Boarding actions and small unit tactics/maneuver warfare are literally the essence and doctrine of the Marine Corps, it absolutely makes sense to take featherhead Air Force pilots and hard-charging Marines to form a combat-ready branch, at least for starters. As mentioned earlier, Kessler Syndrome preempts a lot of farther-out science fiction fantasies from coming to fruition, but should an enemy-inhabited station ever need to be decommissioned it would be safest to do so by breaching it and fighting close-quarters within the station itself.
I can't wait until 2045 when all the Marines are chilling in a bar picking up local girls talking about how badass they are when all of a sudden some Adonis in a white Marine dress uniform kicks in the door and all of his Space Marine Chads come strolling in, steal all the girls, get free drinks, talk about how they stopped the Star Holocaust of Magmar IXX with their bare hands and talk about how ground Marines are just pussies while us incel losers cry in a corner.
And humanity will eventually destroy itself, so why not send the nukes?
The Russians have had the Aerospace Defence Forces for decades. In fact, in 2015 the Air Force and the Aerospace Defence Force was merged. Believe it or not, the Russian Airforce is now a sub-branch of the Aerospace Forces.
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That doesn't mean it should happen.
is there any good reason for this though, on the whole this would just be a branch of the services dedicated completely for satellites and anti satellite weapons, meanwhile the airforce controls all the launch sites, acquisitions, and tracking stuff already...
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/506/32391022626_8edb107b10.jpg In all seriousness I thought we DID already have a "Space" military section. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command
The Air Force doesn't really have any institutional experience with long-duration missions. The Air Force has historically been responsible for space because the historical mission profiles were aerospace in nature; you send up a space ship, it does its thing, and it returns to atmosphere after a few hours. When you get talking about a space vehicle that will remain cut off from support for weeks or months at a time, that's more a Navy-esque mission profile. Space is a fundamentally different environment from any terrestrial theater. If it's going to be seriously addressed by a military institution, it ought to be its own thing, not just be appropriated by an existing service.
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um, no whatever missions the military will be running fall quite within the airforce's expertise, nobody is going to be launching manned space weaponry, orbital mechanics makes it quite clear, war in space is at best the realm of drone satellites or ground launched AS missiles
Oh yeah let's invent more WMDs that don't have fallout
Just shut up. I'm sick of people advocating for war, and I'm sick of the military-industrial complex trying to get their bloody hands on everything. Like the Space Program, which I'm sure will happen soon now. End war.
space marines will never, ever, ever be viable even in the extremely unrealistic scenario when you need to take out a military station that actually has people on board for some reason, it will be best taken care of by cooking them to death with a laser from long range, or punching holes through its life support and other critical functions with nothing more than a simple cannon
Even if we do create one, it'll probably be more akin to how we operate drones. On a much smaller scale, and a much higher altitude
Trying to heat the station up would take either an incredibly long time or a MASSIVE almost unthinkable amount of energy to do quickly, and even then you risk running into a catastrophic failure onboard the station tearing it apart and creating a cloud of debris. Hunks of metal flying at thousands of miles per hour in orbit above Earth are a problem not just for this military or that military, but for everything that goes up there, including internet satellites, GPS, broadcasting, imaging, and a dozen other things we've come to rely on in our day-to-day life. Autonomous space warfare inside of one of Earth's lagrange points would cause the collapse of space exploration and pioneering, no way around it. Goodbye colonization, goodbye telecoms infrastructure, goodbye midnight view of the starry sky.
But this would require funding NASA again...unless they create a new entity called "Not-NASA"
Ok there are a lot of reasons Kessler syndrome is bad and one of them is not because "space is our last hope" You're off by a few magnitudes as far as how long our environment can support us.
whether or not lasers would be effective in space combat is up in the air I'll give you that, although it has nothing to do with gradually heating the target up - a pulse from a MW laser will simply hit the surface like a kT of TNT and incinerate anything inside but more importantly, no space military will care about kessler syndrome because it's a shared burden. the enemy suffers from it as much as you do, so it makes no tactical sense to avoid an advantageous combat tactic because of it. ie. the prisoner dilemma: you can't stop the enemy from doing it so it will be a problem anyway, you have to use it yourself or you'll lose what do lagrange points have to do with it? anyway whilst the build up of debris would make space travel more difficult, expensive, and risky, it would take an extreme amount to stop it altogether. and it would be near impossible for any humanly possible amount of debris to be seen from the ground
I'll be happy if we get to see the first Armageddon adult parody that is actually shot on location on the side of a meteor the size of Texas.
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