• Trump claims Americans say 'under God' and 'merry Christmas' more since he won
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Nah man, the difference between you and Tudd is like night and day. Tudd at least tries to cook up some convoluted reasoning behind his back-assward-ness without resorting to out-right shit-posts, you're basically just a shit-poster.
What reasoning? I was purely stating that Trump's remarks align with what I have encountered with clients on a day to day basis during the past five holiday seasons. If you disagree, and even object, then maybe you should try getting a job.
I love how every shitposter thinks they are ~disrupting the echo-chamber~ these days. It's like watching someone walk into a room, fart, and then accuse everyone in the room of being sheltered for complaining about the smell.
It's cute that you think I'm only talking about this one time when you have an entire history of shit-posting in support of backwards ideals.
Can you actually not see why people are judging these posts? Even the last line is hilariously out of touch. "If you disagree with me, then maybe you should get a job!!!!!" infant_irl
If you disagree that people are saying 'Merry Christmas!' more since 45 took office then going out into the world and seeing it for yourself is the best way to find out. You, and others, spoke of anecdotal evidence being insufficient in this case; however that's the best evidence that will ever come out. Is someone really going to do a social study on this matter? Highly doubtful. 45 is not necessarily wrong in his findings, but not necessarily right either.
45?
Trump is the 45th president. I don't know why people say "45" instead of "Trump," especially conservatives. I can understand especially easily-triggered left-wingers using "45" instead, because "just typing out his name triggers me." But conservatives have no (logical) rationale for that, especially those that support Trump and/or chastise the aforementioned easily-triggered individuals.
It's almost like they want to forget WHO he is and would rather focus on the fact that he's "their" president and that's good, somehow...
That's a good summation of why the claim is ridiculous, especially for a president known to be a liar. It's an inconsequential, unfalsifiable claim, that anyone with a bit of confirmation bias could believe even if it is untrue.
Sounds pretty optimistic considering how often one hears talks of ideological opponents being traitors or fascists and thus deserving of violence and perhaps death, and that's just in the west, too, I can imagine it gets worse in less "enlightened" areas of the planet. Everybody agrees the innocent do not deserve death, but not everyone agrees on who is innocent.
Oh yeah because we had one Christmas already so that is enough of a litmus test eh? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Maybe a president shouldn't be making baseless claims that are non-verifiable that also wouldn't even be a good thing if they were true? There's nothing wrong with wishing someone a Merry Christmas, but it's also not somehow a good thing if people do it more often. It's (almost) always said with good intention, but the fact of the matter is that it can absolutely make a fair chunk of the population feel excluded, so at the end of the day celebrating its "return" at all is weird. But this is assuming it even has become more common. And there's absolutely no indication that that's the case, so the president shouldn't be making a statement about it at all.
Maybe you should go get a girlfriend/boyfriend first before telling people to go get a job since you admitted to going out to pay a hooker for your first time. Just saying my man.
I feel that the dehumanizing rhetoric we hear from ideologues and politicians, which is further amplified by the news media, is distinct from the actual reality wherein most people share a pretty similar set of values and ethics. The fact that the dehumanizing rhetoric is necessary at all indicates to me that this is true. How many who are members of say, the westboro baptist church do you think have actually come to their conclusions by sitting down and having a conversation with the evil gays compared to those who were effectively indoctrinated into the belief system by isolation from any outside 'corrupting' influences? It kind of goes without saying that most conservatively minded people are not closeted fascists and most liberally minded people are not Stalinist-tankie communists. I think you're taking a small number of fringe examples to purporting them to represent some overall worldview about humanity as a whole. Political violence today is much, much less than it has been in the past. In the past people weren't just called mean names, they were killed en mass for expressing dissident ideas. I'm not talking about medieval times, I'm talking about things the troubles here. Just because things have been unusually peaceful for a little while doesn't mean that the world is coming to an end because of political dissidents. I would also contend that many such examples (the number of which are already exaggerated) of people calling opponents traitors or fascists are spun out of context, there are many such articles on breitbart or the huffington post purporting to tell us how such-and-such political official accuses someone of being a nazi or says some bad thing about minorities. Similar to the idea of annoying Rick and Morty fans or Social Justice Warriors, there are probably a lot more annoying people accusing others of being said thing than actual examples of the the thing itself. In this case, I mean there are more people calling other people 'someone-who-calls-anyone-who-disagrees-with-them-a-nazi' than there are actual 'people-who-call-anyone-who disagrees-with-them-a nazi'. In a very ironic meta-memey kind of way, it's become such a fad to accuse someone of calling you a nazi that accusing someone else of accusing you of being a nazi is almost more of an insult than calling someone a nazi in the first place.
fatality but why
I do hope you are right, but with my experience of hearing so many people speak so easily of violence and death to those in disagreement with them IRL it's hard to see things your way for me, rather than assuming the only thing they lack these day is opportunity and mobilization due to somewhat steady comfort. When the daily routine is broken and comfort is disturbed, it doesn't take much for people to become unwilling to listen to people outside their ingroups and mutually fuel paranoia. Perhaps it is this period of relative quiet which is an aberration rather than a new norm? Then again, I do kind of live on the outskirts of The Westâ„¢.
Two numbers right next to each other is easier to type. So much for high-energy conservatives accomplishing much this term.
Jesus, how fucking condescending. Like you deserve some great reputation for posting stupid shit on the internet.
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