Trump has decided to pull out of Iran nuclear deal
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Fuck the deal period.
400 BILLION US dollars handed over to Iran in cash. They spent it all on weaponry according to a report by National Council of Resistance of Iran.
Iran is NOT our friend. They never WILL be our friend. Iran wants us fucking dead period and will gladly support or fund terrorism over here to get us killed.
Lets ignore the fact that the newer generations of iran are indeed adopting western philosophy, Iran wasn't building nukes or enriching their uranium (the main purpose of the deal), was forming western business agreements that benefit both sides, and the fact that the entire international community was agreeing the deal was being upheld to the standards required and then some.
No, fuck all that! lets just piss them off even more and fucking lie to them on an international stage. Do you have any idea how fucking retarded we look, do you have any idea what this means to NK who just recently agreed to denuclearize. No one wanted out of the agreement but Israel and trump.co. Iran could have had an entire generation to replace their zealot dickhead leaders, but no, lets just shoot that down immediately and pull the NK card again to see if it will work (heres a hint, it wont at all).
You do know we owed them that money because it was theirs to begin with, right? For weapons that we sold them that they never got and frozen assets?
Also, you got an sources to back that overtly sponser terrorism besides Fox or any of the conspiracy news?
Ah yes, so clearly the best course of action is to pull out of the deal which gave oversight of such a distrustful and evil nation to ensure they do not become a nuclear power. Great move.
I'm curious why we sold them weapons in the first place, to be honest. Were these assets frozen many years ago like in the early 2000's or late 1990's?
About the terrorism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Iranians took hostages and let them go after we removed sanctions.
Judge John D. Bates ruled Iran was reponsible for the embassy bombings in 1998.
Judge George B. Daniels ruled Iran bears "legal responsibility" for providing material support to the 9/11 hijackers in the form of Iran using front companies to obtain 747 flight simulators for the hijackers to train on.
In terms of them buying weapons?
https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/dkvgy383iG_6XcsdMiUkwbviA3A=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/F3RAN7PFTNB6VPTCF3M47UDC4M.jpg
That's an Iranian S-300. Codenamed SA-10 Grumble.
Likely obtained from Russia, it is a very deadly SAM system. I think we've been seeing SA-10's pop up in the news lately.
Weren't they in Syria, too?
If you want to go to war with Iran stop beating around the bush and admit it.
the deal wasn't made to treat iran as friends. it was built in with knowledge of their aggressiveness and lack of cooperation. it was aware of their support for hezbollah, and their threats against israel. the purpose of the deal was to keep their nuclear weapons capabilities in check, and make cooperation more appealing to iran. if you see improving relations, in any form, as "friendship", i think that's silly.
I don't think anyone is arguing that iran is perfectly moral. I do believe they bear potential for peace with their younger generation but they must still be kept under close watch.
But if you are so scared that they are going to commit acts of war and terror, why would you revoke the agreement that lets them build nuclear weapons?
Brought up a good point.
In terms of the deal "keeping their capabilities in check" I wish it did but I don't think it's really makes much difference. A big problem is Iran themselves have not been adhering to the deal.
We know that Iran has tested missiles numerous times, including a missile with multiple warheads that can separate in mid-air (Sometimes referred to as a MIRV.) called the Khorramshahr. Interestingly it looks VERY similar to North Korea's Hwasong-10 and is suspected North Korea sold the missiles to Iran.
Did you even read the news
They've been monitored, and had been, and will be following the guidelines set out by the deal
Like the fucking stuff from benjamin netanyahu was fucking old news that was trying to get trump to swing the deal into ashes
Not with America arbitrarily and capriciously fucking with them in order to score local points with tearing down the previous US President's legacy out of spite.
Literally who wants to sign a deal with America now, now that it's been proven that deals mean nothing and American Presidents can and will throw them into a fireplace for short-term domestic political points. Who would ever want to deal with such a bad-faith negotiator in the future?
Iran could've been your friend when the younger, pro-West generation took power. That's been thrown out the window for the sake of shitting on Obama.
Do you even know what the deal is? Because literally everyone except Trump is saying that Iran has been adhering to the deal and has not been pursuing nukes, which is what the deal is about.
The deal is not "Iran will become a good boy", the deal is "Iran won't try and build nukes". Well, Trump just pulled out of the deal, allowing Iran to build nukes if it wants to disregard the agreement.
You know who violated the deal? America, by pulling out and falsely accusing Iran of breaking the terms.
Waat you just posted shows absolutely nothing about the iran deal being breached. They breached UN protocols which is a different set of guidelines entirely. The only reason net even brought this shit up was to make trump feel like hes right, tear up the agreement, then have free range to start attacking iran assets since daddy US is out of the picture.
I really hope the deal can be saved and America ends up looking like a fucking donkey. The UK has reaffirmed its commitment to the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-44044946
I hope every nation leaves our ass in the dust. It would be an economic boon for you guys as well.
The problem is if Trump will begin to sanction the remaining countries in the deal in order to force them out.
Jesus fucking christ. How about you learn about the deal, before you talk about it.
That 400 billion in cash? That was owed to them already.
Iran used to be a very moderate nation. Then the US got involved in the 70's. I really despise your ignorance.
Hey, if Trump tears up NAFTA and continues to isolate the US, that opens the way for Canada and Europe to take its place. It also opens up plenty of opportunity for Russia and China to take its place on the world stage, too, and for all of America's faults it at least represented liberty and democracy as a world leader; Russia and China represent autocratic social control and all of the corrupt dictatorial aspects that America's very existence was supposed to be a bulwark against.
Truly, this makes America great again.
This makes me wonder what would’ve happened if the US never got involved in the Middle East. Wonder how much better/worse the world would really be.
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/993949086440140801
I've seen this movie before and y'all need to get the fuck out before the beginning of the second act.
Yeah, Iranian moderates are probably the ones in most imminent danger from this move.
$400 Million
$400 MILLION, first installment of a total of $1.2 billion. Iran paid for fighter jets right before their US-installed dictatorship was overthrown, and they never got them. That brutal dictatorship was installed by the US decades earlier to protect BP's assets in the country. We overthrew a country and installed an authoritarian dictator to protect an oil company. So yes, the new leaders hated the US, and now that Iran was an enemy the US refused to deliver the fighter jets they purchased or refund the money. That $1.2 billion we paid them off can be seen as an out of court settlement. You see, Iran took the US to the Hague over that deal and our refusal to deliver or pay back over several decades, and the Hague was considering awarding Iran a $10 billion dollar payout which would be paid by the United States. We didn't want to be ordered to pay 10 billion dollars by the Hague, so the Obama administration negotiated a deal in private with Iran, we will pay them $1.2 billion and they will drop the case. It wasn't a bribe, it was setting straight a business deal that went wrong 4 decades earlier.
good speech from bozza undermined by the fact that he's going to slurp the cheesy cheeto cum straight from the don's withered tangerine ballsack when he visits the uk
And speaking of which I bet Trump refuses to pay the other $800 million, and Iran takes the US back to the Hague and asks for the $10 billion for the sheer fuckery. And, sure, if Trump's still in office at the time he can just refuse to pay, but openly defying the Hague is a whole fucking other can of worms being opened by the great dealmaker.
I was hoping we could buy back their F-14's and put them in private ownership or muesams where they belong
You'd think Trump would be the master of settling out-of-court...
https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/994256941038931968
Americans, are you tired of winning yet?
Yeah, they were just betrayed in a deal that they had spent a lot of work on, and made a lot of concessions on because of people who believe in flat out fucking lies issued by this administration
Rather than: "Let's make a new deal that the US congress can get behind" they went straight to "Death to America". For some reason, it seems like the Iranian government is less moderate than the previous administration had implied.
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