• UN votes to send war crimes investigators to Gaza
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Honestly, I agree with your opinion that Israel probably didn't shoot them for no reason because that would fly in the face of all of my experience of the military and standard procedure (they do not fire indiscriminately, even if their standards of discriminating who to shoot can be a bit off), but you cannot just take a side with clear interests at their word when this many people are wounded. It is better to not take the word of either one, but to send a team which would objectively look at the matter (the entire matter, the actions of all actors involved) and get to the bottom of why things happened the way they did. I am pessimistic on the capacity (perhaps even will) of the UN's team to do so, but with the amount of ass-coverings I've seen and heard of from other people in my time in the IDF, I sure as hell do not trust internal investigations to find out the entirety of what happened (especially if the careers of officers are on the line), and neither should you. Just because one side is definitely, objectively less of a monster, doesn't mean they will be objective and their interests somehow magically disappear in cases such as this. And I'm not speaking about just the interest of military leadership - I'm speaking of the interests of the people who gave the commands and the people who seemingly followed them.
Honestly, I doubt the possibility of an unbiased investigation. This issue is so incredibly polarized and filled with moral gray areas that it may simply not be possible.
What makes you think the people investigating will be biased? And I don't see any problem with giving credence to any finding they actually find, there isn't any moral gray area here, either Israel shot a medic, or they didn't.
No. The Geneva convention is pretty fucking crystal clear about the medic situation.
The Canadian medic is Hamas? The burden of proof lies on those who shoot. You shouldn't have to prove your innocence, it's up to those who used force to properly justify it.
The people going into Israel are not necessarily all from those member states. No one is going to expect a group of Saudi men go into Israel and then come out with a report proclaiming the absolute innocence of Palestinians and demonic actions of Israelis.
If we get an unbiased investigation into Israel's most recent murders, then Israel will end up facing Justice and Consequence. If not, nothing will happen to Israel as usual because, you know, they're actually the victim here! Those Arabs have rocks, guys.
With this rogue nation's history of atrocities, you'll have to squint your eyes REALLY hard to NOT to vote for the investigation, if it even need to be investigated at all
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