Ex-campaign manager: Bernie Sanders is considering running for president in 2020 - Polidicks

Source please. Single payer would be a two step thing, one is getting the price of medical care back to civilized levels (already a monumental undertaking in Corporate America), the second would be to have Government health insurance. The rest of the developed world has it figured out.

america is at a boiling point. if we ever hope to have a nationalized healthcare system, we will have it within the decade or never. our systems are failing all around us and something else is coming to take its place. what it is, I don't know, but i'm not going to throw our one chance away because it isn't perfect. it's sink or swim, motherfucker, and having a fencepost up your ass is mighty heavy.

This has been done to death over the course of the Democratic primaries 2 years ago and I refuse to type out an essay so I'll just drop these two pieces here: Bernie Sanders’s single-payer plan isn’t a plan at all Health Reform Realities I have no doubt that Sanders is a genuinely good person at heart but his political campaigning relies on the same populist rhetoric that the Republicans rely on. Where moderate Democrats rely on hard numbers and a healthy dose of reality, he dodges the question with his magical "Tax The Rich" button.

"Bernie Sanders's single payer plan isn't a plan" says Vox (a quality source) about an 8 page long campaign piece in which he reiterates the general idea. An actual single payer "plan" would probably be several hundred pages long... Like I said, every developed country in the world except for the US has single payer figured out, and surprisingly, a proper tax plan does pay for it. Second article just says it's hard, not that it's impossible. Everyone already knows it's hard, but tough shit, it's the price you pay for becoming a civilized nation.

I'm gonna primary Steve Bullock regardless, I feel he has more appeal and is fairly progressive and isn't a total moron on guns issues, which will definitely help draw in the single issue voters.

That's precisely the point, he didn't even give the slightest hint of how he'd achieve the cost-cutting and tax revenue-boosting necessary to fund his healthcare plan. And no, many countries do not have a single-payer healthcare system. Universal health coverage is common, but there are many ways to implement it other than single-payer. Germany, Netherlands, and Switzerland have mandatory health insurance, with subsidies for those who are unable to afford it. Singapore has mandatory health savings accounts, low-cost government-provided insurance, and tiered subsidies for government-provided healthcare. While the public health sector is the dominant provider, there is a strong private sector as well that eases the burden on the public health sector. Hong Kong does away with any mandatory payment plans and instead provides heavily-subsidised public healthcare. Out-of-pocket expenditures are high (1/3 of all healthcare expenditure) but come primarily from the wealthy choosing private healthcare providers. Bernie's plan calls for healthcare to be paid for entirely by the government, it's pretty much Canada's system on steroids. He severely overestimates savings from cost cutting, while underestimating the tax hikes necessary to fund such a system. Good luck convincing Americans to swallow that pill.

My ass. We have money for trillion dollar wars. We have money for 900 military base around the world. We have money to give trillions of dollars in tax cuts to the richest people and corporations. We have money to increase the defense budget by another $100 billion. But we don't have the money to give health insurance to every citizen, something every other industrialized country has managed to do? The richest and biggest economy in the world can't provide the bare necessities to its people? We have the money, our government just won't do it.

This is bullshit because trump has managed to pass an absolute fucktone of deplorable and shitty laws and he's only been here for 2 years.

so are you proposing to dissolve the entire US military overnight to fund healthcare or what

Run, Bernie. run.

Or shuffle! Whatever the case may be by then! Just keep going!

You know its nice to actually read what he typed instead of glancing for a second and trying to make some sarcastic quip cause apparently you think having enough ratings makes you smart.

Or just reallocate the massive amount of misused funds but nah, go for that turdlord zinger

I would love to see him run again. It would also be hilarious to see the "Hindsight is 2020" campaign ads come to life.

Let's try this post again. You can start by reading what people are posting.

Bernie's plan is unworkable without much higher taxes, budget reallocation or not. Healthcare in the US costs more partially because medical staff are paid more, do you want them to take a pay cut? Also not sure what fantasy world they're living in where the rich get "trillions of dollars in tax cuts".

Here we go again The US healthcare system is the most wasteful, bureaucratic, needlessly expensive system in the world. We have the highest healthcare costs in the industrialized world, and the worst healthcare outcomes in the industrialized world. We have the by far highest cost of prescription drugs in the world. Most importantly, we have obscene health insurance expenses. This is because our system is fundamentally based on making profit, not helping people. We still have a predominantly fee-for-service system (kind of like pricing a car based on its number of parts) and there are countless other incentives that prioritize profits over care. The healthcare debate should not just be about who's paying for the costs, it should be about challenging those costs in the first place. If we only slightly raised taxes on the upper and middle class while completely removing health insurance from the equation, we would save the average American thousands of dollars per year. Insurance has no place in healthcare. The fact that insurance companies have managed to profit from people's suffering for this long is a moral abomination and it needs to stop. In the 21st century, in the richest country on earth, healthcare can and must be seen as a human right.