• Trump says he may pardon Martha Stewart
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the presidential power to grant pardons is in the consitution, it would be borderline impossible to take that away
That's what amendments are for.
do you know how incredibly difficult it is to pass a constitutional amendment? getting 2/3 of the house and senate AND 3/4 of states in the nation to agree on anything is so unlikely in this day and age that it's not even really worth bringing to the table as an option
Amendments have requirements that are nigh-impossible to actually meet in the modern era for passing them, it'd require our parties to actually work together, something that will never happen
The last amendment was part of the original Bill of Rights, but was unimplemented for 200 years. A student popularized it, guess everyone was like this is is just a smart thing to add. There's one more unimplemented amendment, would make it so that there's no more than one representative per 30,000 people till the total number of reps is 100, then it's one per 40,000 till it's 200 total, then it's one per 50,000. That would be over 6,500 representatives today.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-equal-rights-amendment-illinois-20180530-story.html We have problems with them over here, even though that really make sense.
That Equal Rights Amendment would have passed nationwide if not for Phyllis Schafly yelling that it would make women able to be drafted.
Good grief, it's like he found the ONE thing that pretty much nobody can tell him "no, you can't just do that" so he's running wild with it.
Where do these pardoned people plan to go when the whole country is ruined?
I hear the NRA really likes hiring pardoned traitors.
I'm sure Pence is complicit enough to find himself under Mueller's crosshairs as well. Plus, Mueller's smart, he'll pull state charges out on Trump just to hedge bets on that.
I would be. The pardons are hardly the worst thing Trump is doing right now - most of the objectionable ones are just symbolic, since the pardonee has already served out their sentence. Add on to that the sheer difficulty of amending the Constitution, and the raft of much better amendments we'd be better off passing, and the odds of the pardon ability being removed are vanishingly small.
Legal precedents, no, but in pardoning notable Republicans charged with the very crimes he will ultimately be charged with, he is establishing narrative precedent. If Trump manages to seize influence over New York's judiciary or governorship, he can potentially have an emergency exit plan in which all federal charges AND state charges against him are pardoned and/or dropped either by him or his predecessor, with the rationale that so blatantly subverting the law is okay because "WITCH HUNT!!!," just like those brave heroes Trump pardoned.
If he went that far, he'd be painting a huge target on his own back. I don't think the people would be willing to let someone so corrupt simply walk.
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